VN Ren'Py A Man for All [Ep.15] [Venus Waltz]

[Gorse]

Imagine yourself as a girl. Now imagine yourself as a pretty girl popular on social media. This kind of women they receive (no joke) 500-1000 messages from men on daily basis and none of these messages are normal. Not trying a normal conversation or to try and getting to know her. These messages are nasty of men trying to fuck her or saying how cute she looks.

On the streets she gets the same behavior from men. She is not treated as person, but as a piece of meat that men wants to get to satisfy their dicks. They will also make nasty comments, call outs, call her names if she doesn't give them attention. Even the looks they give are as if they were trying to undress her at that very moment.

You may even think I am joking right now, but this is how a lot of women are treated by men on daily basis. Once a friend of mine who used to be popular on instagram during college, and she wasn't even that popular, just around 1k followers, but would post pictures of her and she showed me once in a single day around 100+ messages and almost 100% nasty ones. I wouldn't get even 1 message on social media lol. Some of those people were even people she knew but they were thirsty dogs or simps.

It made me think about my behavior towards women in general and I saw that they deal with that kind of crap on daily basis.
With that being said, some girls just get disgusted by men and they lose interest in having a man in her life even if they are straight. Someone to get through and conquer her would have to put a lot of effort.

Is there anyone here playing a route without having sex, flirting or dating other girls? I am pretty sure the answer is no. Everyone just wants to get inside her panties and she already knows that. Reason why these girls, even if they are friends with you, they know that you, like any other boy/man, is thinking with your dick when you talk to them (like the thousand of other men in her life).

In our "real" world, I mostly agree with you. Many men mistreat women as 'fresh meat' and see them only with their d*cks.
And I'm fully aware of such a discriminatory misbehavior and despise it in general.

Anyway: first, this VN isn't reality. Even with some realism/slice of life stuff in it.

Second, maybe you are right and Vanessa in particular (and even Riley to some extend) could be pissed off by that kind of misbehaviour. But does the MC (mis)treat them in that way? Do they have any reason to be that frigid at him, really?!

Third and last (but not least), even if many of the girls in this VN are particularly 'hard to get' and have their reasons/backgrounds for being 'not interested' - why would I want to include them in a p*rn game (even it's fortunately without the typical tropes) at all? Just to piss off players eventually? To learn them a lesson? To test their patience?
I mean, we've already reached episode 9 - this story is not in the early stages anymore!

I don't know anything about how long this story is going to be in the end, but it just feels like endlessly long up to now already.
But again, maybe that's only me getting more and more bored and disappointed with each update.
And maybe this VN's nothing for me then anymore.

 

[Deleted member 4865569]

Alright washing my hands with riley.
DONE SIMPING.

This is just as bad as having a female friend you had a crush on for years keeping you stuck in the BRO ZONE.


in this case I feel like we are forever stuck in the friend zone with her and with that, I think it's time to just move on LMAO!!

At this point Vanessa going to fully give in before her and at least we made progress making a little dent in her armor compared to Riley.

Like I said I don't mind slow burns but this is getting ridiculous with Riley, She don't even take us seriously honestly, She blow off every attempt of flirting, And she is also taking years to think about the date proposal.

 

[STATE_]

When the walkthrough gonna get updated

 

[Ripson]

I'm the only one getting this traceback error right after opening the game with the mod?

The game works just fine without the mod.

u need a fresh copy of the game, and copy the script folder and slheading file and paste it inside the game sub folder of the game.

 

[DanMotta]

In our "real" world, I mostly agree with you. Many men mistreat women as 'fresh meat' and see them only with their d*cks.
And I'm fully aware of such a discriminatory misbehavior and despise it in general.

Anyway: first, this VN isn't reality. Even with some realism/slice of life stuff in it.

Second, maybe you are right and Vanessa in particular (and even Riley to some extend) could be pissed off by that kind of misbehaviour. But does the MC (mis)treat them in that way? Do they have any reason to be that frigid at him, really?!

Third and last (but not least), even if many of the girls in this VN are particularly 'hard to get' and have their reasons/backgrounds for being 'not interested' - why would I want to include them in a p*rn game (even it's fortunately without the typical tropes) at all? Just to piss off players eventually? To learn them a lesson? To test their patience?
I mean, we've already reached episode 9 - this story is not in the early stages anymore!

I don't know anything about how long this story is going to be in the end, but it just feels like endlessly long up to now already.
But again, maybe that's only me getting more and more bored and disappointed with each update.
And maybe this VN's nothing for me then anymore.

"why would I want to include them in a p*rn game (even it's fortunately without the typical tropes) at all? Just to piss off players eventually? To learn them a lesson? To test their patience?"

Are you saying that they shouldn't exist in a porn game if not to get f;ck.d? So there shouldn't be female characters in the game if the purpose wasn't to get f;ck;ed. Or even if being a porn game, as part of the story, you should not have girls to choose between one night stand girls, slut girls, friends with benefits girls and romance girls that you have to work for and at the end you will finally be able to be with them, ony because it is a porn game?

A porn game can offer you a lot besides sex. have you ever read erotic novels? I feel like adult VNs are a mix of erotic novels and porn. Also every developer has a way of creating their games, and not everyone will be happy with the outcome.

I am more interested in Erika, she is the kind of girl that usually interests me. Street smart girls. But I like Vanessa. Even if the sex part finally happens, but the animation sucks, I think for my mc in particular will be rewarding. I think she has her reasons to be the way that she is and I will respect her time to open up. Also if it never happens I hope she can see my mc as friend, someone she can trust even though he will keep flirting with her from time to time. Also, what if she is lesbian and doesn't like D only P? We can't blame her for exist and for being in a porn game, I think there is a place to everyone in the story of the game.

I love the porn lewd scenes in games, but some has the story that keeps me going. And I like the story of this game so far. Even though it isn't the best I've seen around here it is more entertaining than many out there and I learned how to like some of the characters such as Erika, Vanessa and even Riley, even if I have 0 interest in being with her. I will keep teasing her though, and when she finally tells me she wants to go out, I will turn her down if it is gonna be a choice in the game lol.

 

[Balfurusse]

The multi mod does not work??? I'm looking to some old choices where i could see green and red text but it's not there anymore... I'v extracted the script folder under the game folder as instructed...

Tried with and without RENPY

Any idea?

 

[Deleted member 2220390]

One for all, All for one

 

[BTWZ1]

someday someday lewd thing with Riley will come. but not today. i don't understand why she LI if she ignores all our flirting with her

 

[Deleted member 4865569]

The multi mod does not work??? I'm looking to some old choices where i could see green and red text but it's not there anymore... I'v extracted the script folder under the game folder as instructed...

Tried with and without RENPY

Any idea?

the mod really isn't needed honestly..

 

[Kemb]

Honestly playing this game is becoming a chore at this point, 9 episodes in and no significant progress in the romance department with any of the girls.

Vanessa i kind of understand but there isn't even the start of a friendship and i'm beginning to hate Riley.
Even for the other girls it's like they are fuck buddies and thats it.

 

[DeFuZe]

The multi mod does not work??? I'm looking to some old choices where i could see green and red text but it's not there anymore... I'v extracted the script folder under the game folder as instructed...

Tried with and without RENPY

Any idea?

There is no need for mod, all the dialogue where you have 3 response type lead to the same outcome overall , they only shape your personality type, as for the actual choices they are pretty straight forward : either go to date or not and so on .

 

[Cernunnos.]

My only real complaint is that the MC keeps bringing chicks back to Erika's apartment and that's more than a bit slimy. Dude needs to get his own place again pronto.

 

[Deleted member 4865569]

Honestly playing this game is becoming a chore at this point, 9 episodes in and no significant progress in the romance department with any of the girls.

Vanessa i kind of understand but there isn't even the start of a friendship and i'm beginning to hate Riley.
Even for the other girls it's like they are fuck buddies and thats it.

Agree.

I like all the girls (EXCEPT RILEY) but I also feel this..

I have yet to build a EMOTIONAL connection with any of the girls yet because with most it feels like we are just FWB then anything.

Like I said I am all for slow burn but when I play harems I want an EMOTIONAL CONNECTION with the girls and I want them to be EMOTIONALLY CONNECTED to me the MC.

So far Harlow is the only one imo who don't COMPLETLY come off as FWB but it still do in some way.


Vanessa imo the only one who gets a pass for now and I kinda understand why she might be the toughest girl to crack if you know what I mean.

Riley? WHO? yea I am salty and petty so it's RILEY WHO? from now on.
Not gone speak on her, She's dead to me LOL.

Like I feel like the next episode need to take a LEAP into developing the romance department and start building it up more.
It is impossible for me personally to stay interested in the LIs when they all come off as FWB.
I don't like FWB type stuff in general.

WOW we fucked, Time to leave, CHOW!

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this episode.

that don't do anything for me personally. Hell we barely kiss any of the LIs or have any romantic moments with them.
not feeling the romance yet.

I like this VN but it needs to speed up the pace a bit on the romance being 9 episodes in.

 

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WOW we fucked, Time to leave, CHOW!

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this episode.

Sophia seemed a little reluctant to say "Ciao."

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[Deleted member 4865569]

Sophia seemed a little reluctant to say "Ciao."

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hmm you right.

seems like shit on her mind.

but is it for the mc? or something else?

questions because she made it kinda clear she on that FWB time for now, that's why.

 

[Pinsel]

Is there anyone here playing a route without having sex, flirting or dating other girls? I am pretty sure the answer is no.

Yes, i have a main Marissa solo route. A causal one, with with all girls, except Erika. And a third, with Erika for science. Considering a Vanessa solo route

 

[Gorse]

"why would I want to include them in a p*rn game (even it's fortunately without the typical tropes) at all? Just to piss off players eventually? To learn them a lesson? To test their patience?"

Are you saying that they shouldn't exist in a porn game if not to get f;ck.d? So there shouldn't be female characters in the game if the purpose wasn't to get f;ck;ed. Or even if being a porn game, as part of the story, you should not have girls to choose between one night stand girls, slut girls, friends with benefits girls and romance girls that you have to work for and at the end you will finally be able to be with them, ony because it is a porn game?

Well, sorry, maybe that was my disappointment speaking too loud :
NO, of course every character in a VN has the 'right' to exist regardless of the role or possible relation(ship) to the MC (and vice versa). So it's completely okay, even in a p*rn game, if a character isn't there to be pursued at all. Friendship without benefits is no game breaker.

However, except for the possible main Love Interests:
Vanessa, Riley, Harlow, Erika and the tutor lady (always forget her name) are the socalled main LIs in this story.
From the very beginning on. And in every AVN I've played so far, the main LIs are there to build some intimate relationship with. Or not, depending on choice. May it be fast or very slow. Eventually that is one important goal in these kind of stories.

But it just does not seem to be the case in this VN - that's why I said before it feels like a chore.
A really long one so far...
9 episodes of business meetings, an almost never ending chore of 'work' before anything emotional, romantical or even sexual. With these main LIs in particular, only side girls are there to disperse or even distract from this strictly business stuff sometimes.

But anyway (and no hard feelings): I feel, that this story isn't for me anymore. Too tedious to be worth it.

 

[DanMotta]

Well, sorry, maybe that was my disappointment speaking too loud :
NO, of course every character in a VN has the 'right' to exist regardless of the role or possible relation(ship) to the MC (and vice versa). So it's completely okay, even in a p*rn game, if a character isn't there to be pursued at all. Friendship without benefits is no game breaker.

However, except for the possible main Love Interests:
Vanessa, Riley, Harlow, Erika and the tutor lady (always forget her name) are the socalled main LIs in this story.
From the very beginning on. And in every AVN I've played so far, the main LIs are there to build some intimate relationship with. Or not, depending on choice. May it be fast or very slow. Eventually that is one important goal in these kind of stories.

But it just does not seem to be the case in this VN - that's why I said before it feels like a chore.
A really long one so far...
9 episodes of business meetings, an almost never ending chore of 'work' before anything emotional, romantical or even sexual. With these main LIs in particular, only side girls are there to disperse or even distract from this strictly business stuff sometimes.

But anyway (and no hard feelings): I feel, that this story isn't for me anymore. Too tedious to be worth it.

There is a game called Hillside (I wanna say sorry for the dev, for mentioning another game). In that game, I think it has been 12 episodes so far and MC still didn't have any sexual encounter with the top main LI. Not even a kiss. There are a lot of people who got mad and stopped playing ofc, or didn't stop playing but complain on every update.
But I do enjoy the game and the story and I understand where the main LI comes from and her reason to not open up to men, even if most players are impatient.

I feel the same about this game. This one even gives us a lot of porn with other girls, but he keeps those 2 girls story closed to any relationship so far, what I think it is ok. Not every VN has to be the same, that you can just go in and f... everything that moves, even animals lol. I don't think we should try and force every VN developer to write the same thing a thousand others have been writing as well. I understand that many people are pissed about it, but is it really that important that you have to have sex or the acceptance of this VN girl, right now?

I honestly don't think my MC is worth of Vanessa right now, he will keep trying though, but since she isn't giving him much attention he is enjoying his life elsewhere with other girls. After all his big D has an expiring date and he has to use it as much as he can before he needs some kind of meds.

And I will agree with you, If Erika, the girl I like in this VN, didn't give me attention at all I would have probably moved on to other games and stop bothering. There are a few games that I only read the thread and if the thing I wanted never happened I don't even bother downloading it to play. I wouldn't waste my time.

 

[Skylaroo]

Zero sense, really? They're young women who surely have needs and desires, like everyone else. MC is a (supposedly) good looking guy who's proven to be capable, confident, kind, classy/funny/charming.
How does it make zero sense to not at least show a glimmer of interest?

If you're responding, please respond to what I actually said and don't change it into something else that I never said.

It would make zero sense to have intimate content with them at the moment.

This is what I said. Very different than what you're questioning.

May I kindly ask why not? Since everyone would be happy to have some more intimate content with them, the decision seems counterintuitive

This is what you originally asked. My response was to that.

 

[Woodstock_1983]

I wish there was away to remove the save descriptions. I hardly add a description when I save a game.