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- Jul 25, 2019
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Honestly playing this game is becoming a chore at this point, 9 episodes in and no significant progress in the romance department with any of the girls.
Vanessa i kind of understand but there isn't even the start of a friendship and i'm beginning to hate Riley.
Even for the other girls it's like they are fuck buddies and thats it.
Vanessa i kind of understand but there isn't even the start of a friendship and i'm beginning to hate Riley.
Even for the other girls it's like they are fuck buddies and thats it.
- Jul 26, 2018
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There is no need for mod, all the dialogue where you have 3 response type lead to the same outcome overall , they only shape your personality type, as for the actual choices they are pretty straight forward : either go to date or not and so on .
- May 27, 2017
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My only real complaint is that the MC keeps bringing chicks back to Erika's apartment and that's more than a bit slimy. Dude needs to get his own place again pronto.
Agree.
I like all the girls (EXCEPT RILEY) but I also feel this..
I have yet to build a EMOTIONAL connection with any of the girls yet because with most it feels like we are just FWB then anything.
Like I said I am all for slow burn but when I play harems I want an EMOTIONAL CONNECTION with the girls and I want them to be EMOTIONALLY CONNECTED to me the MC.
So far Harlow is the only one imo who don't COMPLETLY come off as FWB but it still do in some way.
Vanessa imo the only one who gets a pass for now and I kinda understand why she might be the toughest girl to crack if you know what I mean.
Riley? WHO? yea I am salty and petty so it's RILEY WHO? from now on.
Not gone speak on her, She's dead to me LOL.
Like I feel like the next episode need to take a LEAP into developing the romance department and start building it up more.
It is impossible for me personally to stay interested in the LIs when they all come off as FWB.
I don't like FWB type stuff in general.
WOW we fucked, Time to leave, CHOW!
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that don't do anything for me personally. Hell we barely kiss any of the LIs or have any romantic moments with them.
not feeling the romance yet.
I like this VN but it needs to speed up the pace a bit on the romance being 9 episodes in.
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- Nov 4, 2018
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Sophia seemed a little reluctant to say "Ciao."
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hmm you right.
seems like shit on her mind.
but is it for the mc? or something else?
questions because she made it kinda clear she on that FWB time for now, that's why.
Yes, i have a main Marissa
solo route. A causal one, with with all girls, except Erika. And a third, with Erika for science. Considering a Vanessa solo route
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- Aug 16, 2020
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Well, sorry, maybe that was my disappointment speaking too loud
:NO, of course every character in a VN has the 'right' to exist regardless of the role or possible relation(ship) to the MC (and vice versa). So it's completely okay, even in a p*rn game, if a character isn't there to be pursued at all. Friendship without benefits is no game breaker.
However, except for the possible main Love Interests:
Vanessa, Riley, Harlow, Erika and the tutor lady (always forget her name) are the socalled main LIs in this story.
From the very beginning on. And in every AVN I've played so far, the main LIs are there to build some intimate relationship with. Or not, depending on choice. May it be fast or very slow. Eventually that is one important goal in these kind of stories.
But it just does not seem to be the case in this VN - that's why I said before it feels like a chore.
A really long one so far...
9 episodes of business meetings, an almost never ending chore of 'work' before anything emotional, romantical or even sexual. With these main LIs in particular, only side girls are there to disperse or even distract from this strictly business stuff sometimes.
But anyway (and no hard feelings): I feel, that this story isn't for me anymore. Too tedious to be worth it.
- Dec 7, 2022
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There is a game called Hillside (I wanna say sorry for the dev, for mentioning another game). In that game, I think it has been 12 episodes so far and MC still didn't have any sexual encounter with the top main LI. Not even a kiss. There are a lot of people who got mad and stopped playing ofc, or didn't stop playing but complain on every update.Well, sorry, maybe that was my disappointment speaking too loud
NO, of course every character in a VN has the 'right' to exist regardless of the role or possible relation(ship) to the MC (and vice versa). So it's completely okay, even in a p*rn game, if a character isn't there to be pursued at all. Friendship without benefits is no game breaker.
However, except for the possible main Love Interests:
Vanessa, Riley, Harlow, Erika and the tutor lady (always forget her name) are the socalled main LIs in this story.
From the very beginning on. And in every AVN I've played so far, the main LIs are there to build some intimate relationship with. Or not, depending on choice. May it be fast or very slow. Eventually that is one important goal in these kind of stories.
But it just does not seem to be the case in this VN - that's why I said before it feels like a chore.
A really long one so far...
9 episodes of business meetings, an almost never ending chore of 'work' before anything emotional, romantical or even sexual. With these main LIs in particular, only side girls are there to disperse or even distract from this strictly business stuff sometimes.
But anyway (and no hard feelings): I feel, that this story isn't for me anymore. Too tedious to be worth it.
But I do enjoy the game and the story and I understand where the main LI comes from and her reason to not open up to men, even if most players are impatient.
I feel the same about this game. This one even gives us a lot of porn with other girls, but he keeps those 2 girls story closed to any relationship so far, what I think it is ok. Not every VN has to be the same, that you can just go in and f... everything that moves, even animals lol. I don't think we should try and force every VN developer to write the same thing a thousand others have been writing as well. I understand that many people are pissed about it, but is it really that important that you have to have sex or the acceptance of this VN girl, right now?
I honestly don't think my MC is worth of Vanessa right now, he will keep trying though, but since she isn't giving him much attention he is enjoying his life elsewhere with other girls. After all his big D has an expiring date and he has to use it as much as he can before he needs some kind of meds.
And I will agree with you, If Erika, the girl I like in this VN, didn't give me attention at all I would have probably moved on to other games and stop bothering. There are a few games that I only read the thread and if the thing I wanted never happened I don't even bother downloading it to play. I wouldn't waste my time.
- May 28, 2017
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If you're responding, please respond to what I actually said and don't change it into something else that I never said.
This is what I said. Very different than what you're questioning.
This is what you originally asked. My response was to that.May I kindly ask why not? Since everyone would be happy to have some more intimate content with them, the decision seems counterintuitive
- Sep 16, 2020
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I wish there was away to remove the save descriptions. I hardly add a description when I save a game.
Guys please keep your activism aside and just enjoy the game. Who will be the love interest of MC or who he sleeps with depends on the writer, there is nothing we can do.
- Feb 18, 2018
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- Nov 1, 2020
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Hey, everybody. I've been reading all of the comments. Most of the discussions is centered around the slow progress with the LIs, so I'd like to address that. This is going to be long-winded because I want to give as many details and be as clear as possible. I want you all to know that I care about what you think.
I'll preface everything I'm about to say that this is coming from the viewpoint of the developer. This game means a lot to me. And if I come off defensive, I apologize for that. I just believe in my game and that's just my bias.
When I started putting this whole thing together, my main focus was the story. All of the sex and violence and character models and all of the good stuff was secondary. It was going to be in there but I wanted to write an entertaining story that holds everything together. I see a lot of people who are upset that they haven't made any progress with Riley or Vanessa or even the others in terms of a relationship. My goal was that the story would be enough to tide you over. So, if the story isn't interesting and all you can focus on is on the lack of hooking-up with certain girls, it's my fault because I haven't written a good enough story. I get it. It's a porn game and you come into it with certain expectations and at this point, you should get something and you haven't gotten it. I should have paced things better. I should've tightened things up. Whatever the reason is, I messed up.
Regardless of any way I explain it, it's all just an excuse, so I won't try to keep explaining that aspect.
I know there are a lot of reasons why people don't like this game but for this point, I'm speaking to Riley and the other LIs specifically and lack of progress. With Riley, you have three options at this point.
The first is to just give up entirely. You're annoyed enough by the lack of progress that you don't care anymore about the entire game and story. The story isn't interesting enough and all of the LIs no longer have an appeal to you. I'm sorry for that and I appreciate you giving the game a chance. I hope that you'll come back later but I understand if you don't. I wouldn't blame you.
The second is to give up on only Riley. You're still playing the game. There are other LIs to choose from. Maybe you like the story. In any case, you're just done flirting with Riley. Thanks for sticking it through. Every developer wants to have at least one draw to their game, so if you're staying for any other reason, thanks.
The third option is to stick it out. Riley is being an annoying brick wall that's just stringing you along. You're not making any progress in a romance and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. All of your flirtations seem pointless. But you're a masochist and you won't stop. For those of you who choose this option, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I can't make any guarantees about how satisfying it'll be but you'll have the option to get what you want.
One of the issues I have as a developer is that I can see the entire picture. I have the major plotpoints outlined and planned already. I can see where things happen like a first kiss, first hook up, major fights, etc. Like I said earlier, I planned the coffee shop explosion two years before I rendered it and even longer before anybody played it. So when I look at someone like Riley, the progress she's made, and the person she is, it makes sense to me because I know who she is, what happens and where everything is going. I have to remind myself that from the player perspective it's frustrating because it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
I already got the sense that many of you are frustrated from previous episodes and that's been emphasized even more with the latest episode. To alleviate some of this, I've changed the story flow and moved things to around to tighten-up progress to a certain extent. It helps that a lot of the major plot points in the story have already established. That means a lot more will be happening in the upcoming episodes in regards to romance and the LIs. I understand that this is a porn game and that's what most people care about. However, that doesn't mean you'll be having sex with everybody immediately in the next episode. But in Episode 10, I can say that you'll at least see certain seeds being planted (not literally). So, while there might not be the giant tree you're asking for, I can at least say "I'm planning on watering this other one first." That's the best compromise I can give. You'll get what you want. Eventually. I just can't say when. I'm not going to throw away the plot entirely just for the sex. And if you're trudging through the story and it sucks too much that you quit, I understand that it's my fault for writing a crappy story.
I don't usually make hints about future events because it kind of spoils things. Like, even without saying specifically what happened, just saying something big happens kind of ruins it because you're kind of looking for something big. But I thought I'd say this about Riley because this is me just being a developer and being proud of a character I wrote to provide some possible insight.
I want all of you to play my game. I want all of you to enjoy it. I don't want you to quit. When I see you venting your frustrations, I'm not rubbing my hands and laughing like some villain because I'm denying somebody what they want. When I see frustrations, I'm upset with myself for messing up. I hear you. I can't give you everything you want. You're not going to be banging every chick in the next episode. When things happen, it'll make sense. I had already planned on doing this after comments on previous episodes but now I'll be more conscious of the player when plotting things out. I know it's patronizing for a developer to tell you that they hear you, but I do and I'm listening.
I'm trying my best. I'm working as much as I can. And I'm still learning. I appreciate you all. Thanks for your patience while I figure this thing out. For those of you who've had enough of this game and decided to move on, thank you for giving me a chance. I hope you'll come back to see how things end when I get there. For those of you who are sticking around, I'll try not to let you down. For what it's worth, I'm sincere about everything I've said above.
Thanks for reading. If you guys have any other questions or comments or want more details, let me know. I'll be around.
I'll preface everything I'm about to say that this is coming from the viewpoint of the developer. This game means a lot to me. And if I come off defensive, I apologize for that. I just believe in my game and that's just my bias.
When I started putting this whole thing together, my main focus was the story. All of the sex and violence and character models and all of the good stuff was secondary. It was going to be in there but I wanted to write an entertaining story that holds everything together. I see a lot of people who are upset that they haven't made any progress with Riley or Vanessa or even the others in terms of a relationship. My goal was that the story would be enough to tide you over. So, if the story isn't interesting and all you can focus on is on the lack of hooking-up with certain girls, it's my fault because I haven't written a good enough story. I get it. It's a porn game and you come into it with certain expectations and at this point, you should get something and you haven't gotten it. I should have paced things better. I should've tightened things up. Whatever the reason is, I messed up.
Regardless of any way I explain it, it's all just an excuse, so I won't try to keep explaining that aspect.
I know there are a lot of reasons why people don't like this game but for this point, I'm speaking to Riley and the other LIs specifically and lack of progress. With Riley, you have three options at this point.
The first is to just give up entirely. You're annoyed enough by the lack of progress that you don't care anymore about the entire game and story. The story isn't interesting enough and all of the LIs no longer have an appeal to you. I'm sorry for that and I appreciate you giving the game a chance. I hope that you'll come back later but I understand if you don't. I wouldn't blame you.
The second is to give up on only Riley. You're still playing the game. There are other LIs to choose from. Maybe you like the story. In any case, you're just done flirting with Riley. Thanks for sticking it through. Every developer wants to have at least one draw to their game, so if you're staying for any other reason, thanks.
The third option is to stick it out. Riley is being an annoying brick wall that's just stringing you along. You're not making any progress in a romance and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. All of your flirtations seem pointless. But you're a masochist and you won't stop. For those of you who choose this option, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I can't make any guarantees about how satisfying it'll be but you'll have the option to get what you want.
One of the issues I have as a developer is that I can see the entire picture. I have the major plotpoints outlined and planned already. I can see where things happen like a first kiss, first hook up, major fights, etc. Like I said earlier, I planned the coffee shop explosion two years before I rendered it and even longer before anybody played it. So when I look at someone like Riley, the progress she's made, and the person she is, it makes sense to me because I know who she is, what happens and where everything is going. I have to remind myself that from the player perspective it's frustrating because it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
I already got the sense that many of you are frustrated from previous episodes and that's been emphasized even more with the latest episode. To alleviate some of this, I've changed the story flow and moved things to around to tighten-up progress to a certain extent. It helps that a lot of the major plot points in the story have already established. That means a lot more will be happening in the upcoming episodes in regards to romance and the LIs. I understand that this is a porn game and that's what most people care about. However, that doesn't mean you'll be having sex with everybody immediately in the next episode. But in Episode 10, I can say that you'll at least see certain seeds being planted (not literally). So, while there might not be the giant tree you're asking for, I can at least say "I'm planning on watering this other one first." That's the best compromise I can give. You'll get what you want. Eventually. I just can't say when. I'm not going to throw away the plot entirely just for the sex. And if you're trudging through the story and it sucks too much that you quit, I understand that it's my fault for writing a crappy story.
I don't usually make hints about future events because it kind of spoils things. Like, even without saying specifically what happened, just saying something big happens kind of ruins it because you're kind of looking for something big. But I thought I'd say this about Riley because this is me just being a developer and being proud of a character I wrote to provide some possible insight.
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I want all of you to play my game. I want all of you to enjoy it. I don't want you to quit. When I see you venting your frustrations, I'm not rubbing my hands and laughing like some villain because I'm denying somebody what they want. When I see frustrations, I'm upset with myself for messing up. I hear you. I can't give you everything you want. You're not going to be banging every chick in the next episode. When things happen, it'll make sense. I had already planned on doing this after comments on previous episodes but now I'll be more conscious of the player when plotting things out. I know it's patronizing for a developer to tell you that they hear you, but I do and I'm listening.
I'm trying my best. I'm working as much as I can. And I'm still learning. I appreciate you all. Thanks for your patience while I figure this thing out. For those of you who've had enough of this game and decided to move on, thank you for giving me a chance. I hope you'll come back to see how things end when I get there. For those of you who are sticking around, I'll try not to let you down. For what it's worth, I'm sincere about everything I've said above.
Thanks for reading. If you guys have any other questions or comments or want more details, let me know. I'll be around.
- Feb 18, 2018
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As a lot people said, the slow burn can be a little annoying, but to be completely honest, it didn't bother me on the grand scheme of things.
To me at least, a good AVN is usually the one that if you take all of the porn, still remains a good story (one of my all time favs is Funbag/Kyonyuu Fantasy), and for all purposes, A Man for All falls into that category. So, I don't mind that much the slow burn and gonna just enjoy my ride.
To me at least, a good AVN is usually the one that if you take all of the porn, still remains a good story (one of my all time favs is Funbag/Kyonyuu Fantasy), and for all purposes, A Man for All falls into that category. So, I don't mind that much the slow burn and gonna just enjoy my ride.
- Jun 4, 2017
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If you think that speeding up things will improve the game, then go for it. If you think the grand story will benefit from the current pace, then I would prefer you keep that pace. In the end though, it's up to you.
It's your game and your vision. Make it however you want. If people want a game where you just hit it with everyone in 5 minutes, they have plenty of options. It's just that people who are annoyed are the most vocal. It's like if you work in retail and do surveys, 90% will be negative because those are the people who want are passionate enough to take the time. I realize the game may not have the support you envisioned so maybe changing things up will stir the pot a bit. It's your call but at this point having Vanessa or Riley just throw themselves at you won't make sense thematically. Maybe you could provide a stronger idea of when things will "pay off" (with a spoiler alert obviously for us that are ok with how things are).
I mean, I'm team Vanessa and thing it would be awesome for things to start progressing with her but she's cold and barely starting to open up. If you had something where you and her hooked up in the next 2 or 3 episodes, I would feel you shoehorned it and cheapened what it would mean. That said, again it's your vision and go how you want with it.