VN Ren'Py A Mother's Love [Part 1-14 Plus] [OrbOrigin]

[J0K3RXXX]

I haven't played through the 'Chloe is Strange" route but this is very interesting.

In my opinion, that route is the most interesting of AML. I advise you to play it as soon as possible.

So from the dialogue and what you're trying to say, the reasons why the spell didn't work on Nicole are because:
1.) The spell hasn't fully formed or matured yet when MC (US) first met with Nicole on that day.
2.) Nicole had mixed emotions towards MC (US), during that part of the story, but the spell only needed one emotion in order to bond or adapt to one person.
Please correct me if I'm wrong or missing a few details.

Always according to what Marilyn said, the spell had to wait a while to mature enough for the bonding to be successful. However, we don't really know if this is true or just an excuse Marilyn gives MC to argue why the spell backfired on her.

As for the second point, it is my assumption, but I think that the spell requires that the person who will be the object of bonding with the host (MC in this case) must have a set of emotions towards the host that, for the most part, are positive affectively. If there are emotions but they are sufficiently contradictory in an equitable way, the spell could cause rejection or be useless by not detecting enough positive energy, as Marilyn calls it. And at that moment Nicole was in a mess, because even though she disliked the corruption produced by MC, she gave in to her sexual impulses shortly after, masturbating after MC's previous proximity to her (and let's not forget that after the moment when MC forces himself to cum inside her mouth with the excuse of not dirtying her sofa, she then goes to the bathroom and has that semen in her mouth for a long time until she decides to swallow it).

That's a very HOT and high-level of corruption for Nicole if Chloe ever discovered them red-handed if the spell worked on Nicole.

But since the spell didn't work on Nicole and she has true love feelings towards MC (US) I wonder how Nicole will react if Chloe catches them red-handed.

Maybe we'll see it in one of those recent wet dreams turned nightmares that Nicole is having recently, but instead of being discovered by her husband John it would be by her daughter Chloe.

That's true. I guess I would be angry too if the theory turns out to be true. But I'll think something positive at the same time and that is, Marilyn's spell backfired and Nicole does truly love MC (US).

True, but in this aspect I was not referring so much to the spell as to the potential non-psychic manipulation that Marilyn would have done to MC with the theoretical hidden purpose of taking revenge on John for something from the past related to his family.

That's true and Marilyn has been helping out MC (US) a lot throughout the game. Do you think the 'Marilyn friendship' points will have an impact if we find out the theory is true? Also, I just thought if this, how will it impact MC's (US) relationship with Nicole?

Personally I think it will be a major parameter to take into account, but I don't know if it will be as important as other parameters like Nicole corruption points or the number of times MC cums inside her pussy (parameter that apparently determines whether she becomes pregnant or not)

This is also true. I guess we just have to wait and see who's Marilyn's true target of her revenge plot.

True, but if this theory were true and Chloe was the real target, I wonder what she would have done to Marilyn in the past to cause such spite and desire for revenge. After all, it is often said that female bullies are the cruelest in high schools.

 

[Optimus69420]

In my opinion, that route is the most interesting of AML. I advise you to play it as soon as possible.

I'll try and find the time to playthrough it. It does sound interesting.

Always according to what Marilyn said, the spell had to wait a while to mature enough for the bonding to be successful. However, we don't really know if this is true or just an excuse Marilyn gives MC to argue why the spell backfired on her.

As for the second point, it is my assumption, but I think that the spell requires that the person who will be the object of bonding with the host (MC in this case) must have a set of emotions towards the host that, for the most part, are positive affectively. If there are emotions but they are sufficiently contradictory in an equitable way, the spell could cause rejection or be useless by not detecting enough positive energy, as Marilyn calls it. And at that moment Nicole was in a mess, because even though she disliked the corruption produced by MC, she gave in to her sexual impulses shortly after, masturbating after MC's previous proximity to her (and let's not forget that after the moment when MC forces himself to cum inside her mouth with the excuse of not dirtying her sofa, she then goes to the bathroom and has that semen in her mouth for a long time until she decides to swallow it).

I can say we can safely assume that these are the reasons why the spell didn't work on Nicole. 1. The spell hadn't mature enough and 2. Nicole had mix feelings towards MC (US).

Maybe we'll see it in one of those recent wet dreams turned nightmares that Nicole is having recently, but instead of being discovered by her husband John it would be by her daughter Chloe.

I'm actually excited on how these nightmares will play out.

True, but in this aspect I was not referring so much to the spell as to the potential non-psychic manipulation that Marilyn would have done to MC with the theoretical hidden purpose of taking revenge on John for something from the past related to his family.

Ohhhh I see. I guess AML fans would be angry more if we find out that Marilyn was using MC (US) this entire time for her personal gain. I think some would be ok since Marilyn wants to take down John as well but I guess we'll find out once the Marilyn spell & revenge theory turns out to be true.

Personally I think it will be a major parameter to take into account, but I don't know if it will be as important as other parameters like Nicole corruption points or the number of times MC cums inside her pussy (parameter that apparently determines whether she becomes pregnant or not)

I also think it will be a major parameter. But I'm starting to question if it will be important too when you explained it. I guess we just have to wait and see in a future update.

True, but if this theory were true and Chloe was the real target, I wonder what she would have done to Marilyn in the past to cause such spite and desire for revenge. After all, it is often said that female bullies are the cruelest in high schools.

Another thing to wait and see to find out. If Chloe was the real target, I'm curious about what she did to Marilyn in order for to execute her revenge theory plan. I didn't know that female bullies are the cruelest in high schools. That is an interesting fact.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

I can say we can safely assume that these are the reasons why the spell didn't work on Nicole. 1. The spell hadn't mature enough and 2. Nicole had mix feelings towards MC (US).

The second is an assumption in case the spell was already mature when he was next to Nicole, although Marilyn claims that when that happened MC must have already been with Chloe, causing what we are theorizing (officially, the spell only happens in the Chloe is Strange route).

I'm actually excited on how these nightmares will play out.

Let's hope so. It's another theory of the future content that Orb can show us in the future parts, since it would be something original based on the probable clash in her psyche both due to Nicole's fear for the condition of her daughter and the mixed feelings she has about the forbidden relationship she has with MC (on the one hand, she can't deny the feelings she has for him, but on the other hand there are the regrets she must be feeling for being in a relationship with his daughter's (ex-)boyfriend).

Another thing to wait and see to find out. If Chloe was the real target, I'm curious about what she did to Marilyn in order for to execute her revenge theory plan. I didn't know that female bullies are the cruelest in high schools. That is an interesting fact.

Another possibility is that what Chloe really did to her was something imagined or misperceived by Marilyn, and that as time passed her memories magnified it. However, the few references Chloe makes to MC about Marilyn are not positive at all except in the route where Chloe is MC's faithful girlfriend, because in it those two girls spend some time in the ice cream shop while MC and Nicole enjoy that excursion in that coastal town.

 

[Optimus69420]

The second is an assumption in case the spell was already mature when he was next to Nicole, although Marilyn claims that when that happened MC must have already been with Chloe, causing what we are theorizing (officially, the spell only happens in the Chloe is Strange route).

Ohhhh I see and get it now. What was the theory you mentioned that the spell exists in the other two paths, the 'Chloe is still my GF' & 'Chloe is not my GF'?

Let's hope so. It's another theory of the future content that Orb can show us in the future parts, since it would be something original based on the probable clash in her psyche both due to Nicole's fear for the condition of her daughter and the mixed feelings she has about the forbidden relationship she has with MC (on the one hand, she can't deny the feelings she has for him, but on the other hand there are the regrets she must be feeling for being in a relationship with his daughter's (ex-)boyfriend).

That's true. At this point, Nicole can't deny the feelings she has for MC (US) now since Nicole or MC (US) said "I love you" to each other.

Another possibility is that what Chloe really did to her was something imagined or misperceived by Marilyn, and that as time passed her memories magnified it. However, the few references Chloe makes to MC about Marilyn are not positive at all except in the route where Chloe is MC's faithful girlfriend, because in it those two girls spend some time in the ice cream shop while MC and Nicole enjoy that excursion in that coastal town.

If they're somewhat friendly to each other Marilyn's revenge on Chloe is somewhat a 50/50 of happening because I'm guessing her revenge storyline needs to happen in all three routes. Most likely Marilyn's revenge on John hast the huge percentage to happen in all three routes.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Ohhhh I see and get it now. What was the theory you mentioned that the spell exists in the other two paths, the 'Chloe is still my GF' & 'Chloe is not my GF'?

That we know, all this is just a theory. However, considering that Marilyn confesses MC on the Chloe is Strange route that she made that spell at a time that is unavoidable in all possible routes of the game (when she took advantage of her psychic powers to enter in his mind during the morning of the Day 4), it is logical to think that the spell has also happened in the other two great routes of the game ("Chloe is still MC's girlfriend" and "Chloe is no longer MC's girlfriend") but MC wouldn't even know the spell existed nor would Marilyn suspect that it backfired and affected Chloe instead of Nicole.

If this theory is finally on target, I imagine that the spell on those routes will be discovered very soon when the normal medical methods to wake Chloe up don't work at all. Perhaps after that, Marilyn will have a hunch about what really happened and sneak into the Heavens' house to confirm her suspicions, at which point she will be caught by MC and will no longer be able to keep her dirty little secret to herself, having to confess to MC what she intended to do to him and Nicole. I imagine that this route will provoke a greater feeling of betrayal in MC, which could lead to a progressive distancing between MC and Marilyn, which would be even greater if during that game MC has few Marilyn relationship points.

If they're somewhat friendly to each other Marilyn's revenge on Chloe is somewhat a 50/50 of happening because I'm guessing her revenge storyline needs to happen in all three routes. Most likely Marilyn's revenge on John hast the huge percentage to happen in all three routes.

While this is another plausible theory, remember that it is less likely to actually happen than the one described above. After all, Marilyn is a curious character who is difficult to understand. All things considered, she is the closest thing to a Joker in this story. In the end, everything she's done throughout the game may have been just because she wanted to have fun, screwing over the other characters; or there may be something more serious motivating her actions, which could be what we're now theorizing: a twisted plan for revenge against someone from the Heavens family.

 

[With The]

btw is this game turn into supernatural game ?

 

[Optimus69420]

That we know, all this is just a theory. However, considering that Marilyn confesses MC on the Chloe is Strange route that she made that spell at a time that is unavoidable in all possible routes of the game (when she took advantage of her psychic powers to enter in his mind during the morning of the Day 4), it is logical to think that the spell has also happened in the other two great routes of the game ("Chloe is still MC's girlfriend" and "Chloe is no longer MC's girlfriend") but MC wouldn't even know the spell existed nor would Marilyn suspect that it backfired and affected Chloe instead of Nicole.

If this theory is finally on target, I imagine that the spell on those routes will be discovered very soon when the normal medical methods to wake Chloe up don't work at all. Perhaps after that, Marilyn will have a hunch about what really happened and sneak into the Heavens' house to confirm her suspicions, at which point she will be caught by MC and will no longer be able to keep her dirty little secret to herself, having to confess to MC what she intended to do to him and Nicole. I imagine that this route will provoke a greater feeling of betrayal in MC, which could lead to a progressive distancing between MC and Marilyn, which would be even greater if during that game MC has few Marilyn relationship points.

So overall Marilyn's spell is a theory for all three routes? Correct me if I'm wrong.

While this is another plausible theory, remember that it is less likely to actually happen than the one described above. After all, Marilyn is a curious character who is difficult to understand. All things considered, she is the closest thing to a Joker in this story. In the end, everything she's done throughout the game may have been just because she wanted to have fun, screwing over the other characters; or there may be something more serious motivating her actions, which could be what we're now theorizing: a twisted plan for revenge against someone from the Heavens family.

Marilyn is indeed a mysterious character. It would be a nice twist if the Marilyn revenge theory came true.

 

[cowardleech]

btw is this game turn into supernatural game ?

No it has not except for the little shenanigans Marilyn does. (Which have not come into picture for several chapters now)

 

[J0K3RXXX]

btw is this game turn into supernatural game ?

Aside from Marilyn's psychic abilities, the game doesn't delve into the supernatural. However, I do recall that at one point it was theorized that a certain character in the game also had those kinds of abilities.

So overall Marilyn's spell is a theory for all three routes? Correct me if I'm wrong.

We only know what is stated by Marilyn in the Chloe is Strange route, so in the other major routes this would be a theory. But since the psychic camgirl confessed that she did it at a moment that occurs unavoidably in all possible routes of the game, that theory has a pretty good basis of being true.

 

[cxx]

In my opinion, that route is the most interesting of AML. I advise you to play it as soon as possible.

maybe but that path might get removed or altered if this goes to steam.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

maybe but that path might get removed or altered if this goes to steam.

Why do you think that? If it's because the nature of the origin of Chloe's obsession with Beeman, he is indeed the one who enjoys her attention but he hasn't been the one who provoked it. Besides, they're both of legal age, so I don't think there would be any problem if Orb finally decided to release his game on Steam.

 

[Optimus69420]

We only know what is stated by Marilyn in the Chloe is Strange route, so in the other major routes this would be a theory. But since the psychic camgirl confessed that she did it at a moment that occurs unavoidably in all possible routes of the game, that theory has a pretty good basis of being true.

I see and I get it now. Thank you for confirming the Marilyn spell theory in "Chloe is MC's GF & Chloe is not MC's GF anymore" is just a theory at the moment, J0K3RXXX!

Aside from Marilyn's psychic abilities, the game doesn't delve into the supernatural. However, I do recall that at one point it was theorized that a certain character in the game also had those kinds of abilities.

Do you happen to know or guess which character in AML has this ability?

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Do you happen to know or guess which character in AML has this ability?

Personally I have no idea, so I'm open to any possibility Orb comes up with (if he does end up choosing that option for the future of AML's story), but I seem to recall that this was a theory that came up when that magic circle was shown under Chloe's bed in the Chloe is Strange route (which was the cliffhanger for Part 5 in that major route).

 

[Optimus69420]

Personally I have no idea, so I'm open to any possibility Orb comes up with (if he does end up choosing that option for the future of AML's story), but I seem to recall that this was a theory that came up when that magic circle was shown under Chloe's bed in the Chloe is Strange route (which was the cliffhanger for Part 5 in that major route).

Ohhh, I see. I'm sure dev Orb will surely make it a surprise to who is that character that has the supernatural ability. It will certainly be a twist.

Do you think this character that has the supernatural ability be exclusive to the 'Chloe is Strange' route or will it be available for all of the routes?

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Ohhh, I see. I'm sure dev Orb will surely make it a surprise to who is that character that has the supernatural ability. It will certainly be a twist.

Do you think this character that has the supernatural ability be exclusive to the 'Chloe is Strange' route or will it be available for all of the routes?

Please note that this is just a fan theory. There is no certainty that Orb will place another character with those psychic abilities in future parts of AML, but if Marilyn has them, it is possible that there are more characters like that, and if so, it is most likely someone related to Marilyn herself. Perhaps that is why neither her grandmother nor any of her parents have been shown yet.

So this is all fan speculation.

However, if more characters with those abilities do eventually appear in the Chloe is Strange route, I think they should appear in the rest of the game's routes.

 

[cxx]

Why do you think that?

teacher and student sex raises few flags.

 

[cowardleech]

teacher and student sex raises few flags.

Being a dik had a student teacher scene and it's on steam without any patch.

 

[Falto78]

nice work