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Hey everyone! Here are two more WIP's from the developments of A Mother's Love Part 12.


Thank you all for your patience and as usual, see you soon :)
I think that I would quite like to see Marilyn mess around with the MCs mom in the Marilyn as an enemy path. There have to be some consequences to treating her like shit.
 

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I think that I would quite like to see Marilyn mess around with the MCs mom in the Marilyn as an enemy path. There have to be some consequences to treating her like shit.
Ooooohhhh, that sounds interesting. It's a good thing I treated her right and as a friend ever since I met her in my playthrough. Because we're going to need some allies if we're going up against Beeman or John someday.
 

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For John, the ideal would have been to have a son of his, but I think that since Nicole has not been able to give him the son he wanted, he sees in MC the closest thing to having one of his own, since he is a young man who is entering adulthood and believes that can mold him enough as he would have wanted to do with his own son.
Clearly, but now that MC is no longer just a naive boy that can be easily molded in John's image, instead quickly becoming a competitor or rival to John himself, what then does John want? He tips his hand to the knowledge of the affair with the dress and dinner, although MC is too dumb to realize it, yet his behavior towards MC the following day in the office and at lunch is neither threatening or even disapproving, and he makes no efforts to try to keep MC away from Nicole. The other logical course would be to fire MC, but again his words and actions show that he wants to KEEP MC in the company, and even continue his upward momentum therein. So what is the current end goal? Give Nicole and MC enough rope to hang themselves and be caught red-handed? Unlikely, as Nicole has no assets to give to John in a divorce (quite the opposite), and he seems to genuinely care about Chloe, and regardless of MC's relationship with her, MC's affair with her mother becoming a public spectacle would ruin her.

However, another possibility would be that John has known for a long time about the affair between MC and his wife
I don't see the evidence corroborating that. John is utterly shocked and dismissive when Silvia first suggests the coincidence of the pair not being available, and while he may have had some whispers in his head from then until Little Big Pond, he paid them no heed until the trip. Only then has he been acting in ways to "innocently" confront Nicole and MC on the affair, for the gleeful pleasure of watching them both squirm under their respective covers.

and he consents to it, hoping that Nicole will become pregnant with MC's child, who would carry the surname of John in order to continue the family name (something that I assume is very important for someone who has researched their own ancestors for many years), since John seems unaware of the existence of Mrs. Blues' son.
Hmm, I've never thought about that, and actually it surprisingly makes sense. Blues' son would be publicly known as illegitimate, however a boy born from Nicole would be naturally assumed to be John's son, especially if he could time it right so that he would have sex with Nicole "close enough" to her conceiving by the MC's seed. If Nicole wished to keep her affair a secret, then she will willingly uphold the claim that her baby boy is John's, thus motivating John to not expose the couple, but he can't help himself from torturing them in the process. My thought-process with John wanting to remove his competitor was to protect his company/legacy, but if John does want MC to provide him with a legal male heir to the Heavens' name, then elevating MC to take over the company once John retires/dies makes since as MC would be motivated to keep the company running for the boy, whom the MC knows to be his own true son, once he becomes an adult. Furthermore, John built his empire through ruthlessness and cunning, thus he is now putting MC's "feet to the fire" concerning the affair to train/test that ruthlessness and cunning in the MC, to not only take over, but to in turn train the next "Mr. Heavens" in John's methods, as John cannot guarantee he will be alive long enough to train the heir himself. In the first business deal MC witnessed, John revealed that he sets it up so that he wins regardless of his target's actions, thus his offering Silvia was not only to see MC squirm concerning staying loyal to Nicole/Chloe, but also wanting to train him to take the prize, as John would.

For credence to this possibility, there have been several refences to Nicole not being on birth control, along with opportunities to ignore her warnings/protests regarding said issue. Also, before the hiatus, Orb posted a patron still of John, and (I believe) MC in the Heavens' bathroom with Nicole hunched over the towel bowel with the camera looking into her concerned/embarrassed face, strongly inferring morning sickness and thus the men learning that she's pregnant. Now since this was just a patron post, it's canonicity is unknown.

Inversely, I don't recall if there's a point where the game forces the MC to cum inside Nicole, thus someone might have a playthrough where it was impossible to knock her up.

If there isn't some kind of challenge, John's libido doesn't seem to work; so the fact of knowing that his wife has resumed sex thanks to MC would pose the challenge of winning back his own wife, whom he has despised on so many previous occasions.
John's libido has never been lacking. He knows that while Nicole may not be discerning or intelligent (as he's been able to hide all his affairs) she's not brainless, and thus knows "men have needs" and therefore would begin to ask why he no longer has sex with her. He therefore claims to be impotent, and the first time we players see this claim is WHILE he is having an erection while watching Silvia struggle to keep silent with a vibrating dildo up her vagina. His "miraculous" erection at the end of Ch 11 isn't natural, it's certainly Viagra, again with the purpose of watching Nicole squirm over the affair, and possibly to time their sex close enough to an MC-Nicole conception to breed uncertainty in the couple as to who the father is, and provide John grounds to convince Nicole to keep the baby rather than aborting it out of fear her husband would discover the affair via a pregnancy he did not consumate.
 

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Inversely, I don't recall if there's a point where the game forces the MC to cum inside Nicole, thus someone might have a playthrough where it was impossible to knock her up.
There is a moment in the game concurrent with all the possible routes in the game where there is never the option for MC to cum out of Nicole's pussy: during the great night on Day 9 after their first date, where we can only choose two choices about how to start the night: the Missionary option and the Cowgirl option.

After that, we then see little animations showing them making love in different positions and places in MC's bedroom, where in each one of them it seems that MC came inside her.

If I'm not mistaken, on other sex scenes between MC and Nicole there is indeed the option where the player can choose to have MC cum out of her pussy.

John's libido has never been lacking. He knows that while Nicole may not be discerning or intelligent (as he's been able to hide all his affairs) she's not brainless, and thus knows "men have needs" and therefore would begin to ask why he no longer has sex with her. He therefore claims to be impotent, and the first time we players see this claim is WHILE he is having an erection while watching Silvia struggle to keep silent with a vibrating dildo up her vagina. His "miraculous" erection at the end of Ch 11 isn't natural, it's certainly Viagra, again with the purpose of watching Nicole squirm over the affair, and possibly to time their sex close enough to an MC-Nicole conception to breed uncertainty in the couple as to who the father is, and provide John grounds to convince Nicole to keep the baby rather than aborting it out of fear her husband would discover the affair via a pregnancy he did not consumate.
You're right that John's libido has never been lacking, but only a deep disgust for his own wife could be the reason why he doesn't react at all when she tries to turn him on with a handjob preparatory to a blowjob that doesn't happen, and when she notices that there is no hardening (which is a simple and logical physiological reaction to that kind of physical stimulation), she sits on top of him to rub her crotch on his cock, and nothing happens either.

On the other hand, the fact that you mention Viagra has given me the idea of being able to explain the change of sheets mentioned in the blurred screenshot: Nicole, for whatever reason (whether due to a timely call from the missing Silvia or due to a categorical refusal from Nicole, citing not feeling like it right now or the danger of being overheard by Chloe), refuses to have sex with her husband, and he is forced to relieve himself, staining their bed in such a way that it needs that change of sheets.
 

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His "miraculous" erection at the end of Ch 11 isn't natural, it's certainly Viagra
While it could be Viagra, it's certainly a possibility, I still really like the theory that he just doesn't get excited by women's looks alone anymore and that what truly get's him going is taking other men's women for himself. Kinda how he's pursing Silvia and also that other woman (forgot her name) that both have men that they are/were together with. With Nicole, he had already stolen her from someone a long time ago, but after she became fully his, he no longer gets excited by her, but now that it has come full circle and the MC has stolen Nicole from him, the idea of stealing her back is why he was able to get excited again.

Obviously that is just a theory and yeah it could easily just be that he took Viagra, but I've always thought that theory was interesting, and it would make sense, considering all his sex partners he has been hooking up with behind Nicole's back, were already in relationships. Also, now that he found out about Nicole and the MC, all of a sudden he has an interest in his Wife again. I suppose it could be both, that he enjoys taking women away from other men, but has to use Viagra as a means to do so, but anyways I guess we will have to wait and see.

I do think it will be interesting to see about the heir thing as well, that definitely could be a motivation as to why he had his eyes on the MC to work for him in the first place, and the reason he has basically taken him under his wing, and offered him Silvia, etc., and could also be the reason he will likely want to keep him around even if he has basically stolen his wife. Though this somewhat contradicts with the other theory, cause then why would John bother trying to take his wife back in that case. (he never really seemed to care about her in the first place anyways, and is clearly a selfishly motivated person)
 

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There is a moment in the game concurrent with all the possible routes in the game where there is never the option for MC to cum out of Nicole's pussy: during the great night on Day 9 after their first date, where we can only choose two choices about how to start the night: the Missionary option and the Cowgirl option.

After that, we then see little animations showing them making love in different positions and places in MC's bedroom, where in each one of them it seems that MC came inside her.

If I'm not mistaken, on other sex scenes between MC and Nicole there is indeed the option where the player can choose to have MC cum out of her pussy.



You're right that John's libido has never been lacking, but only a deep disgust for his own wife could be the reason why he doesn't react at all when she tries to turn him on with a handjob preparatory to a blowjob that doesn't happen, and when she notices that there is no hardening (which is a simple and logical physiological reaction to that kind of physical stimulation), she sits on top of him to rub her crotch on his cock, and nothing happens either.

On the other hand, the fact that you mention Viagra has given me the idea of being able to explain the change of sheets mentioned in the blurred screenshot: Nicole, for whatever reason (whether due to a timely call from the missing Silvia or due to a categorical refusal from Nicole, citing not feeling like it right now or the danger of being overheard by Chloe), refuses to have sex with her husband, and he is forced to relieve himself, staining their bed in such a way that it needs that change of sheets.
Remember that John said Nicole smelled bad, to hurt her or just because he rly is not attracted to her anymore.
That is what make John a good villain he do shit to hurt slowly but sure, corrupting Nicole self-esteem.
kinda brilliant move tbh. And now about fucking Nicole is most about power.
Maybe he suspects she is having an affair, So lets fuck her and make her miserable.
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For credence to this possibility, there have been several refences to Nicole not being on birth control, along with opportunities to ignore her warnings/protests regarding said issue. Also, before the hiatus, Orb posted a patron still of John, and (I believe) MC in the Heavens' bathroom with Nicole hunched over the towel bowel with the camera looking into her concerned/embarrassed face, strongly inferring morning sickness and thus the men learning that she's pregnant. Now since this was just a patron post, it's canonicity is unknown.
I forgot to put it in my previous post, but the screenshot you were referring to that Orb put in a Patreon post was an April Fool's joke from 2021. However, I think it was also a kind of advertising collaboration for another dev's game called "Who is the father?"

 
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well mc has cum inside nic so many times that she could be preggo.
 

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Inversely, I don't recall if there's a point where the game forces the MC to cum inside Nicole, thus someone might have a playthrough where it was impossible to knock her up.
I believe majority of the sex scene that MC (Us) has with Nicole you have two options, "Cum inside Nicole or Don't cum inside her." But I believe majority of us chose to force to cum inside Nicole.

There have been sex scenes where Nicole wants MC to cum inside her. In Day 9 after their first date, Nicole wanted MC to cum inside her. After that they have multiple sex sessions or rounds in different positions and I'm assuming in each of those rounds MC has cum inside her. The Night time LBP beach (I believe you can only get this scene if your Nicole corrruption points are high), Library sex scene in Part 10, are other sex scenes in which Nicole wanted MC to cum inside her.

They're other sex scenes where if you did cum inside Nicole she didn't mind and judging by her body language, ogasm and facial expression she wanted MC to cum inside her, whether you have the option to cum inside or don't cum inside Nicole. Does sex scenes are, the School Dance, Bikini Try, the hotel sex scene at LBP, Massage shower at LBP, the bathroom sex scene in Part 9 and the first sex scene we have with Nicole in Part 11 (if you're on the love path with her).

provide John grounds to convince Nicole to keep the baby rather than aborting it out of fear her husband would discover the affair via a pregnancy he did not consumate.
If the game is heading towards for a pregnant Nicole and to have MC's baby. I don't think it will take a lot of ground to convince Nicole to keep the baby. Or which I believe she will instantly decide to keep MC's baby. This is how I imagine it will play out.

Once Nicole discovers that she is pregnant with MC's baby she will first have her doubts but she will definitely and immediately decide to keep and carry MC's child. How do I know this? Throughout the game it has been showing us already that Nicole is a loving mother and would do anything for her child. If we're on the route towards Nicole saying the words, "I love you" to MC (Us). These two evidence are the reason why she will keep MC's baby.

Also the name of the game can be mention again if Nicole reveals that she is pregnant to MC and also telling him that she will keep his child. MC will ask why or what changed her mind but Nicole may reply with, "this is what A Mother's Love is." and she will end it with the phrase, "And because.... I love you."

On the other hand, the fact that you mention Viagra has given me the idea of being able to explain the change of sheets mentioned in the blurred screenshot: Nicole, for whatever reason (whether due to a timely call from the missing Silvia or due to a categorical refusal from Nicole, citing not feeling like it right now or the danger of being overheard by Chloe), refuses to have sex with her husband, and he is forced to relieve himself, staining their bed in such a way that it needs that change of sheets.
I love this theory and this would explain the change of bed sheets.


I suppose it could be both, that he enjoys taking women away from other men, but has to use Viagra as a means to do so, but anyways I guess we will have to wait and see.
It is a possibility that these two theories can happen. John may only be attracted to women who are in relationships or in deeply in love with another partner but he may need Viagra to help keep his manhood up.
 
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I just wish the devs still plans to finish the game. It has one of the best stories out there.
 

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I believe majority of the sex scene that MC (Us) has with Nicole you have two options, "Cum inside Nicole or Don't cum inside her." But I believe majority of us chose to force to cum inside Nicole.

There have been sex scenes where Nicole wants MC to cum inside her. In Day 9 after their first date, Nicole wanted MC to cum inside her. After that they have multiple sex sessions or rounds in different positions and I'm assuming in each of those rounds MC has cum inside her. The Night time LBP beach (I believe you can only get this scene if your Nicole corrruption points are high), Library sex scene in Part 10, are other sex scenes in which Nicole wanted MC to cum inside her.

They're other sex scenes where if you did cum inside Nicole she didn't mind and judging by her body language, ogasm and facial expression she wanted MC to cum inside her, whether you have the option to cum inside or don't cum inside Nicole. Does sex scenes are, the School Dance, Bikini Try, the hotel sex scene at LBP, Massage shower at LBP, the bathroom sex scene in Part 9 and the first sex scene we have with Nicole in Part 11 (if you're on the love path with her).


If the game is heading towards for a pregnant Nicole and to have MC's baby. I don't think it will take a lot of ground to convince Nicole to keep the baby. Or which I believe she will instantly decide to keep MC's baby. This is how I imagine it will play out.

Once Nicole discovers that she is pregnant with MC's baby she will first have her doubts but she will definitely and immediately decide to keep and carry MC's child. How do I know this? Throughout the game it has been showing us already that Nicole is a loving mother and would do anything for her child. If we're on the route towards Nicole saying the words, "I love you" to MC (Us). These two evidence are the reason why she will keep MC's baby.

Also the name of the game can be mention again if Nicole reveals that she is pregnant to MC and also telling him that she will keep his child. MC will ask why or what changed her mind but Nicole may reply with, "this is what A Mother's Love is." and she will end it with the phrase, "And because.... I love you."


I love this theory and this would explain the change of bed sheets.



It is a possibility that these two theories can happen. John may only be attracted to women who are in relationships or in deeply in love with another partner but he may need Viagra to help keep his manhood up.
Nice read, I'm behind you on most takes, John probably need to cuck someone feelings to be aroused.

And the possibility that John is Mc father is that possible yet? Can't remember this from my last replay. And if Mc could put a bun into Nicole is cool.

Sadly John needs to die to a happy ending like that or be your father.
 
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And the possibility that John is Mc father is that possible yet? Can't remember this from my last replay. And if Mc could put a bun into Nicole is cool.
I remember reading a theory about this, in this thread, a couple of months ago. It is possible but MC (Us) has to be John's illegitimate son. Because dev Orb has stated that there will be no incest content in the game. Also about the whereabouts of MC's real mom because the mom we've met and interact with has not mentioned that she dated or met John before. So Mc's real mom could be dead or his real mom, the theory I read about, could be his aunt (I forgot her name) the aunt that MC's parents visited while MC and Nicole had their first date.
 

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I remember reading a theory about this, in this thread, a couple of months ago. It is possible but MC (Us) has to be John's illegitimate son. Because dev Orb has stated that there will be no incest content in the game. Also about the whereabouts of MC's real mom because the mom we've met and interact with has not mentioned that she dated or met John before. So Mc's real mom could be dead or his real mom, the theory I read about, could be his aunt (I forgot her name) the aunt that MC's parents visited while MC and Nicole had their first date.
Can we really call incest when both parties are unaware of the fact?
if no one knows.
There is no problem. Yet.

This would explain why the Chloe path was so irkk to navigate.
People say one thing, but as a silver bullet in the end.... Hm
 
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