VN Ren'Py A Mother's Love [Part 1-15 Plus] [OrbOrigin]

[Zoomaa]

This game went from one of my favorites to the ignore list really hate spineless characters and now I hate Nicole because of how dumb she is portrayed the dev made it clear they had sex which isn't the issue but John neglected her emotionally and sexually for years basically treating her like no more than a maid , also talking down to her in every possible moment but she can't turn him down not once when he asked but instead she goes back running to him the moment he asks just how much dumb she is ?? instead she takes it out on the MC only person trying to make happy.

Honestly, if Nicole is that stupid she deserves what she got based on her decisions and there are red flags with John and the parents wouldn't be surprised if John had sex with the MC's mother.

 

[Zoomaa]

You're correct on this, that John and Nicole are still a married couple. We just don't have a definitive answer if they had sex in Part 11 ending. If it did happen, a lot of people will be pissed. But for me I think I'll be a little bit angry. Also if dev Orb plans on revealing that Nicole and John had sex and majority of fans do get angry I think dev Orb did an amazing job writing this story. Since we are the MC.

As for Beeman, if he plans for revenge I think his goal would have to be kidnap or convince Chloe to leave with him. Since he currently has Abi's sisters and her friends remains (?) (I forgot the name, I'm sorry). So his next goal would have to be either beat us up again or Chloe.

I read your thoughts that John might have used toys for me that doesn't really matter because of how weak and pathetic Nicole is for agreeing to do anything with him after YEARS of neglect and abuse by him If she can't stand up to him and as simple as saying NO than she deserves what she gets for putting up with him that night

 

[Optimus69420]

That is interesting, the story moved more now that you mentioned it but still, i think that these are some things that we expected (Malcolm and Sylvia it was very clear i think):

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-Finally someone noticed the mc having that headaches, i initially thought about some dark things like concussions or even being fatal too (i think that it will have some importance to have some scenes with Nicole) but i do not think so, it is too much for this story, imagine an ending in the love path in which the mc dies and Nicole is devastated, the patrons will eat Orb alive, better to not give him ideas X) (it will be very underwhelming).
-The love scenes are so good but i still think that they are very little well used, that final one was great to have some lenghty and interesting talks with Nicole about some important things, she trust and loves us too much, it was the perfect moment.
-I disagree about the realization that Nicole have feelings for us in this update, i think that happened after the lovely date in Little Pond, she was even missing us so much that she was extremely sad.
-Beeman is in his "place" so i asume that in the place that he was with the sister or the place where he killed his brother, you are right about the intruder (same hair and eyes) and about Abby, i think that these are leftovers of the night that we spent with her or another person, but it is very unlikely because there is not anyone that appeared in the story that could be linked right now unless is some friend of hers but i think that another character in this particular situation will be odd.
.Still thinking about what Vicky said, "a long ago betrayal by us", that left me curious.

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On the love path the protagonist already said this won't change anything for him that he cares too much about Nicole and he realized what she has to endure to let this fact stay between them, which was a nice way of showing character growth.

So i expect the author will let things out in the open for now. If such revelation happens i expect it will come from John as a way to twist the emotional knife in the Protagonist.


Frankly i hope Orb keep doing the story as he wants, anyone with such a fragile ego who can't understand this (as i already saw it happening here and the forum in general) should stay away from adult games.

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I read your thoughts that John might have used toys for me that doesn't really matter because of how weak and pathetic Nicole is for agreeing to do anything with him after YEARS of neglect and abuse by him If she can't stand up to him and as simple as saying NO than she deserves what she gets for putting up with him that night

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[MAGO-DAG]

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The question is why help and for what? if Mc has already saved Abi 11 parts, then this mysterious person besides Mc could interfere in this showdown, right? It’s unlikely that he’s some kind of enemy, perhaps someone close to Mc, too mysterious... As if this is some kind of secret that Mc has to learn from someone...

If this mysterious person exists and stands next to Abigail, then earlier he could have entered into a showdown between Mc and Beeman... although I don’t know, some kind of complex theory

 

[SlapE]

But I'm going to assume they made love but not the way Nicole makes love to MC (Us)

More like, he fucked her when she didn't even want it. Not sure if he forced it, or if she just agreed out of fear or possibly blackmail/coercion. I know it's not confirmed but, some of the dialogue and also the scene when John came home wouldn't make much sense if something didn't happen, I just don't think it was something Nicole was receptive of whatever it was.

She clearly felt guilty and ashamed, but it's unclear if she was possibly dealing with some trauma as well. I'm really looking forward to the next chapter, and hopefully we actually get a definitive answer to a few things. The John and Nicole stuff, and maybe some actual answers to all of John's sketchy behavior at work and with his business partners. Also hopefully something regarding whatever is going on with the MC's Aunt (I believe it was his Aunt anyways) and what his parents have been hiding from him regarding that.

 

[RadicalGuy]

More like, he fucked her when she didn't even want it. Not sure if he forced it, or if she just agreed out of fear or possibly blackmail/coercion. I know it's not confirmed but, some of the dialogue and also the scene when John came home wouldn't make much sense if something didn't happen, I just don't think it was something Nicole was receptive of whatever it was.

Wouldn't she be more scared than angry if something like this happened? I'm not psychologist, but I find hard to believe that Nicole would be so playful and in demand for physical contact, especially from other man, if she had "unwilling" sex with John. Then there is ending part in her bedroom with sexy lingerie. Maybe John admitted that he cheated on her and doesn't find her attractive?
Also John saying that someone helped him with his "problem" (end of part 11) and now we see bruises on Silvia. Finally, why Nicole acts like she acted when MC receives message from Silvia?
For me:

1. John wants to have sex with Nicole (ending for part 11)
2. Nicole accuses him of cheating. She pulls out "kissing Silvia" card (also, this is the moment when Silvia saw MC and Nicole in the car.
3. John admits that he cheats on Nicole
4. Nicole starts crying.
5. John is jerking off (maybe even cums of her - that's why she is ashamed) - dirty bedsheets


Another possibility may be that John tells Nicole that he is planning to fuck up MC's family. Per WT, if you don't trust Silvia and send Marilyn after her, you will learn about John meeting with "a couple". We also know that MC's parents are going "on a date" on the same night. Coincidence?

 

[SlapE]

Wouldn't she be more scared than angry if something like this happened? I'm not psychologist, but I find hard to believe that Nicole would be so playful and in demand for physical contact, especially from other man, if she had "unwilling" sex with John. Then there is ending part in her bedroom with sexy lingerie. Maybe John admitted that he cheated on her and doesn't find her attractive?
Also John saying that someone helped him with his "problem" (end of part 11) and now we see bruises on Silvia. Finally, why Nicole acts like she acted when MC receives message from Silvia?
For me:

1. John wants to have sex with Nicole (ending for part 11)
2. Nicole accuses him of cheating. She pulls out "kissing Silvia" card (also, this is the moment when Silvia saw MC and Nicole in the car.
3. John admits that he cheats on Nicole
4. Nicole starts crying.
5. John is jerking off (maybe even cums of her - that's why she is ashamed) - dirty bedsheets


Another possibility may be that John tells Nicole that he is planning to fuck up MC's family. Per WT, if you don't trust Silvia and send Marilyn after her, you will learn about John meeting with "a couple". We also know that MC's parents are going "on a date" on the same night. Coincidence?

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[cxx]

So when is the next update.

next year. and don't ask stupid things since thread was just recently updated.

 

[SpiritawayV9]

I am very love this Milf!

 

[Optimus69420]

The question is why help and for what? if Mc has already saved Abi 11 parts, then this mysterious person besides Mc could interfere in this showdown, right? It’s unlikely that he’s some kind of enemy, perhaps someone close to Mc, too mysterious... As if this is some kind of secret that Mc has to learn from someone...

If this mysterious person exists and stands next to Abigail, then earlier he could have entered into a showdown between Mc and Beeman... although I don’t know, some kind of complex theory

MC had a feeling that Abi was in trouble due to her sisters Urn had a crack. This mysterious person could've not known that Abi was in trouble during that moment. Perhaps Abi called this mysterious person when she was hungry. I'm guessing this person is "Master" or the Chef vendor that cooks the good Kebabs that Abi introduced us.

More like, he fucked her when she didn't even want it. Not sure if he forced it, or if she just agreed out of fear or possibly blackmail/coercion. I know it's not confirmed but, some of the dialogue and also the scene when John came home wouldn't make much sense if something didn't happen, I just don't think it was something Nicole was receptive of whatever it was.

She clearly felt guilty and ashamed, but it's unclear if she was possibly dealing with some trauma as well. I'm really looking forward to the next chapter, and hopefully we actually get a definitive answer to a few things. The John and Nicole stuff, and maybe some actual answers to all of John's sketchy behavior at work and with his business partners. Also hopefully something regarding whatever is going on with the MC's Aunt (I believe it was his Aunt anyways) and what his parents have been hiding from him regarding that.

You have good points. But if it was forced sex or rape I think a lot of people will be mad if that happen. I'm more leaning to that Nicole didn't do the stuff that she does to with MC (Us) to John. Perhaps her sex moves & kisses were weak then John takes matters into his own hands and does the stuff he usually does with Sylvia. Like he insert a dildo into Nicole, etc.

 

[Optimus69420]

Hey guys. I'll be playing this game from the start because when I used the Chapter selection to play Part 12 I saw some scenes that were changed or updated due to the release of Part 12 and I read it about it as well. And I just want to know which "Chloe path" is more interesting to see? I've gone the path with "Chloe isn't my GF" and I've heard they are two, "Chloe is Strange" and "Chloe is still my GF".

I've played through "Chloe is still my GF" and "Chloe is Strange" but I haven't finished both of those playthroughs. Since the game has been updated recently, I want to start from the beginning. I just like to ask which "Chloe path" is worth experiencing and has more scenes (like new, how it impacts to the story and with Nicole, etc)?

 

[Alexaxel1999]

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Now that you mention it, the game is getting darker the more we play it, so we can not rule out that possibility, maybe the mc dies, John hurts Nicole in a very bad way, everything can happen, and the amnesia maybe it is possible, now this is a very strange theory but: -Vicky said to Mimi that the mc betrayed her in the past, ok, but here it is: maybe the mc was the reason that their parents died, the mc was a little kid and after playing in the beach (remember that the mc tolds Nicole in the date beach that he did not go to the beach when he was a kid, only once and he did not remembered it very well) he went to the road and the parents of the sisters dodge it to have that fatal crash, that is why Mimi is so bad physically and Vicky is so extremely hostile to the mc and the theory of the amnesia maybe can be true, it is a very far-fetched theory but who knows.
-I apologize but i did not understand what do you mean about Nicole knowing and the reference to the love/corrupt path, i am missing something that flew over my head X).
-About the rest, i agree (i think that the i love you should be an option to be said by the mc or Nicole if you keep silent), especially the Abby thing, maybe someone the mc does not know yet.
-I just read the comment about Chloe, i think that Chloe staying as your girlfriend makes more sense story-wise for a couple of reasons and the NTR path with Chloe is so stupid that i prefer to not acknowledge the existence of that path ( i must say that the NTR path has more scenes with Chloe and certain individual so contentwise has the most scenes) the gf chloe is the path what i chose and there are a couple of scenes, the most important ones are before the date in Little Pond and this update 12.

 

[Alexaxel1999]

So when is the next update.

The next update according to the dev it will take some time, so (and sadly) expect a minimum of 3/4 months of waiting so better to look for some games in the meantime.

 

[Devastador 09]

gallery mood?

 

[cxx]

gallery mood?

not in mood.

 

[Deleted member 1329272]

gallery mood?

There is a gallery/replay room in the PLUS version

 

[Bloodhunter]

Oh hell's yeah New Update.

I don't just want to kill John I want to make him suffer before I kill him.

version №2

 

[lerolerdo]

god! i need more

 

[DrainMeDomme]

Man this part was really good. At this point I’m only interested in the story more than the lewd stuff. Very happy he’s back and I can’t wait for his next part

 

[MAGO-DAG]

I don’t know about you guys, but I’m bothered by Mc’s past and his headaches and what Vicky said... really this is the story, the closer we are to the end of the story, the more tragic the plot looks, what do you think is really happening with all these secrets ? if Aunt Mc is really there, will she support Mc or does she know what his parents are hiding from their son? and why did Vicky say something like betrayal?

Any guesses?