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The daughter have so much more chemistry with the professor and so few scenes with the MC that I think her being with the professor is supposed to be the canon path
Ehhhh.... chemistry only looks better because Beeman actually reciprocates. Unlike our MC who reminds us how inferior Chole is to her mother, every 3 seconds she's on screen. Take a fraction of how we are with Nicole, apply it to Chloe, and voilà. We move closer to parity.

With that said, I do wonder why the route is even a thing. Maybe people complained or something. Because the dev goes out of his/her way. To have the MC remark on the inferiority of the daughter. every. single. time. like goddamn. I get it. Like it gives off a feeling of after thought and I didn't really wanna do this.
 
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Ehhhh.... chemistry only looks better because Beeman actually reciprocates. Unlike our MC who reminds us how inferior Chole is to her mother, every 3 seconds she's on screen. Take a fraction of how we are with Nicole, apply it to Chloe, and voilà. We move closer to parity.

With that said, I do wonder why the route is even a thing. Maybe people complained or something. Because the dev goes out of his/her way. To have the MC remark on the inferiority of the daughter. every. single. time. like goddamn. I get it. Like it gives off a feeling of after thought and I didn't really wanna do this.
I also don't get it. For some reason we can keep being her bf but MC doesn't act like one at all, the path is absolutely forced. I understand Nicole is better bla bla bla but why not keep both (not saying there should be harem, but I can't understand why can't the MC love both women) The boyfriend path seem to exist only because reasons when the story clearly is more developed if he follow Nicole request to stop seeing her. Because, as you said, he sure like remind us how much better Nicole is.

And Chloe does act more sexual with Beeman, just look at the sex scenes. With the MC it's like a uninterested guy being forced to fuck a nun, while she and Beeman don't hold back.
 

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For some reason we can keep being her bf but MC doesn't act like one at all, the path is absolutely forced. I understand Nicole is better bla bla bla but why not keep both
welpppppppppp, how to say it without it sounding like an insult to Chloe, Chloe its cute girl but Nichole its a sexy WOMAN, also, the story seems to not want MC to have any other options other than Nicole so that MC's actions do not look like John action (the game push in words that MC and John are the same)
 

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I also don't get it. For some reason we can keep being her bf but MC doesn't act like one at all, the path is absolutely forced. I understand Nicole is better bla bla bla but why not keep both (not saying there should be harem, but I can't understand why can't the MC love both women) The boyfriend path seem to exist only because reasons when the story clearly is more developed if he follow Nicole request to stop seeing her. Because, as you said, he sure like remind us how much better Nicole is.

And Chloe does act more sexual with Beeman, just look at the sex scenes. With the MC it's like a uninterested guy being forced to fuck a nun, while she and Beeman don't hold back.
Yea she's more sexual with Beeman. But I'd honestly chalk that up to two things. The 1st is the NTR trope. It's been a little bit but iirc. Her 1st scene with him, she goes 0-100 with no brakes. Caves quickly, Beeman is bigger, yet she deepthroats and takes it up the snatch with little issue compared to how she behaves with us. Think she even lets him finish inside. Her personally shifts as well, which I suppose one could say Beeman influences her. But nah that shit is full on unnatural with how quick everything escalates. It's a full on light switch moment. Standard NTR setup.

The second and most important thing is we don't can't pursue it. Beeman pursues Chloe. We pursue the mother. Even as Chloe continues to get more clingy, loving, and sexual. The MC doesn't really reciprocate. Again, take a fraction of how we are with Nicole and apply it to Chloe. Whole comparison with Beeman starts to even out.
 
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so finally finished playing through the VN so far and I just want to throw my 2 cents in about the ending with Jenny (MC's mother). From a few scenes ago, you can see Jenny on her phone clearly fixated on something, with the way part 15 ended, one can only assume that it was John texting her telling her to meet him for dinner to discuss their deal and to wear a nice dress. Her mind probably still pondering whether she should agree or not, hence why she missed it when was Hal calling for her. Her mind gets made up when Hal tells her he has to cover for a coworker's shift so he won't be home late (the end scene seems to have happened on the same night), that way she can sneak out and attempt to deal with this herself rather than involve her husband and MC. The way she says "I love you" to Hal feels more like a "I'm sorry, love, but I will do what I must to help my sister", and she goes right back to her phone after prob replying to John, "I'll be there"
 

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so finally finished playing through the VN so far and I just want to throw my 2 cents in about the ending with Jenny (MC's mother). From a few scenes ago, you can see Jenny on her phone clearly fixated on something, with the way part 15 ended, one can only assume that it was John texting her telling her to meet him for dinner to discuss their deal and to wear a nice dress. Her mind probably still pondering whether she should agree or not, hence why she missed it when was Hal calling for her. Her mind gets made up when Hal tells her he has to cover for a coworker's shift so he won't be home late (the end scene seems to have happened on the same night), that way she can sneak out and attempt to deal with this herself rather than involve her husband and MC. The way she says "I love you" to Hal feels more like a "I'm sorry, love, but I will do what I must to help my sister", and she goes right back to her phone after prob replying to John, "I'll be there"
I agree with you. Actually, I mentioned this previously in the thread while I was talking to OptimusPrime and JOK3RXXX. I feel that instead of simple texts, John might have blackmailed her with something, making going on a date with him her only option. Who knows, maybe this missing gargoyle is also part of John’s setup to get his hands on Jenny.
 
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Yea she's more sexual with Beeman. But I'd honestly chalk that up to two things. The 1st is the NTR trope. It's been a little bit but iirc. Her 1st scene with him, she goes 0-100 with no brakes. Caves quickly, Beeman is bigger, yet she deepthroats and takes it up the snatch with little issue compared to how she behaves with us. Think she even lets him finish inside. Her personally shifts as well, which I suppose one could say Beeman influences her. But nah that shit is full on unnatural with how quick everything escalates. It's a full on light switch moment. Standard NTR setup.

The second and most important thing is we don't can't pursue it. Beeman pursues Chloe. We pursue the mother. Even as Chloe continues to get more clingy, loving, and sexual. The MC doesn't really reciprocate. Again, take a fraction of how we are with Nicole and apply it to Chloe. Whole comparison with Beeman starts to even out.
Also agree. I think the dev could not find a good balance on both paths. NTR have more chemistry but too quickly, even more compared how she acts with the MC. But on both paths the reason is mostly because of how little screen time she have
 

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Hello guys. If we download a game and translate it, is it easy to install? I mean, I want to improve my English, I have a lot of free time at home. Does anyone know what program I need? Is it easy to integrate the translation after completing the translation, or is it incredibly difficult to add the Turkish version to the game?
 

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Hello guys. If we download a game and translate it, is it easy to install? I mean, I want to improve my English, I have a lot of free time at home. Does anyone know what program I need? Is it easy to integrate the translation after completing the translation, or is it incredibly difficult to add the Turkish version to the game?
RenPy, any text editor can open the file. i suggests notepad++ tho.
 

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I didn't play the last update and i mostly follow the chloe gf path so i admit I don't have that much information regarding her relation with Beeman, but what i saw was better than gf path. Care to spoiler me? I don't mind
To better understand Chloe's sudden attraction to her History teacher, in addition to what cxx and ChubbyFatBoy said, there is a plausible theory about it. However, to fully understand it, I think you should first play the main routes titled Chloe is no longer MC's girlfriend and, especially, Chloe is Strange for yourself.

Also, regarding those two main routes you should keep in mind the following: In both main routes, MC has disappointed and angered Chloe so much and hasn't tried to repair their relationship that by Day 6, she's cheating on him with Beeman. The differences between the two paths start to become apparent during the afternoon of Day 10, but the real defining choice comes during MC's conversation with Marilyn right after he witnesses Chloe and Beeman's first sexual meeting (Day 6 afternoon). Depending on the answer the player chooses to whether MC follows Marilyn's advice or not, the game will take one path or another: if MC chooses to take Marilyn's advice, he decides there is no future in his relationship with Chloe, focusing solely on Nicole (resulting in the route titled Chloe is no longer MC's girlfriend); if MC doesn't choose to take Marilyn's advice, he decides to hold on to the possibility that he can get her back from Beeman's clutches while simultaneously fucking her sexy mother (resulting in the route titled Chloe is Strange).
 

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An interesting point you make about the nominal ownership of a large part of John's fortune. It's possible that John has placed some properties in his wife's name for tax reasons, and given the mistake of doing so due to the possibility that she might take revenge on him if she discovered his numerous affairs, it wouldn't be a very smart move on his part, but I think it would fit perfectly within his arrogance and the fact that he's always considered her little more than a housewife and a trophy wife to show off at business dinners.

However, a person who is so easily willing to give large sums of money by surprise (like the $250,000 that MC gave in a briefcase to the Watsons on his first assignment) and Nicole's complete failure to mention that she usually signs papers because her husband asks her to, makes me suspect that if Nicole does have things in her name, John must have her express written authorization to do whatever he wants or that it is simply a matter of using her name for things that do not require her to know anything (for example, maybe John has some storage units rented in her name where he keeps objects or documents that he must keep hidden).

Most likely, if he is the sole owner of the real estate agency, he controls his fortune through its accounting (if I remember correctly, I think it has not been mentioned at all that the agency has its own accountant, perhaps because John himself has the authority to do so). In addition, he probably has his own accounts to cover non-legal expenses for his operations, such as those thugs he usually sends but that we only saw when Mr. Blues remembered what happened with John and his wife.
Is there any final release date yet for the game??
 

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Hey guys, I'm playing the game and I'm in the part where Nicole receives the results if she is pregnat or not. In my playthrough she is pregnant and I noticed that in the Walkthrough it says that Nicole can confess her love first but in my playthrough it's only the MC who confess, does someone knows how can I get the other outcome?
 

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Hey guys, I'm playing the game and I'm in the part where Nicole receives the results if she is pregnat or not. In my playthrough she is pregnant and I noticed that in the Walkthrough it says that Nicole can confess her love first but in my playthrough it's only the MC who confess, does someone knows how can I get the other outcome?
For Nicole to confess or to say "I love you" to MC (US), Nicole is not supposed to be pregnant. That's how you get it.

The route you're in is that Nicole is pregnant, and for that route, MC (US) is the one who confesses or says, "I love you" to Nicole first.
 
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In many stories featuring married women, the narrative often revolves around a man pursuing a relationship just to claim his love and take her away from her uncaring husband. However, this story feels so different. John is a character about whom you can never be sure what he is thinking. He excels at playing with your mind while simultaneously making it seem like he isn't really doing anything against you. Yes, you could say he is a ruthless businessman, but aside from that, what evil actions has he committed against the mc? The main character's mother even went to him for help herself. He impregnated the bar owner's wife, but the backstory shows it was the wife's wish because she desired him. John accepted the main character as his daughter's boyfriend and treated him with respect, even offering him a good job at his company. What did he get in return? The mc cheated on his daughter with her mother and is now trying to undermine him. Not to mention, it is never really made clear whether he actually knows about the main character's affair with Nicole, which gives off such a playing with fire feeling to the story really a well wrote character overall
 
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He impregnated the bar owner's wife, but the backstory shows it was the wife's wish
A clarification, John can lie and all the characters in this story lie at some point and with different objectives and levels (the agenda). What is also seen are the consequences of lies, classic "lies and his consequences"
 
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