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Carl Sagan 42

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In many stories featuring married women, the narrative often revolves around a man pursuing a relationship just to claim his love and take her away from her uncaring husband. However, this story feels so different. John is a character about whom you can never be sure what he is thinking. He excels at playing with your mind while simultaneously making it seem like he isn't really doing anything against you. Yes, you could say he is a ruthless businessman, but aside from that, what evil actions has he committed against the mc? The main character's mother even went to him for help herself. He impregnated the bar owner's wife, but the backstory shows it was the wife's wish because she desired him. John accepted the main character as his daughter's boyfriend and treated him with respect, even offering him a good job at his company. What did he get in return? The mc cheated on his daughter with her mother and is now trying to undermine him. Not to mention, it is never really made clear whether he actually knows about the main character's affair with Nicole, which gives off such a playing with fire feeling to the story really a well wrote character overall
First of all, John is my favorite character in the game. He is the only one who has remained unchanged no matter the circumstances. Now, to answer your question: in Part 10, when the MC and Silvia visit the clothing store run by Alicia, she raises a very important question — why would John appoint a male in his office? She is surprised to see the MC, as she had never seen any male worker at Magic Grand. All those who work there are alluring women, and we know what purposes John uses them for. So, unless there is a very special reason, John would not appoint the MC.


I personally believe the MC is John’s son. Though we don’t have much proof to support this, there are some hints. One of those I just mentioned. Another is John calling him “son.” And if you remember, Alicia also mentions more than a couple of times that they both sound similar. Also one more thing I believe Chloe is not John and Nichole's daughter.
 

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I personally believe the MC is John’s son. Though we don’t have much proof to support this, there are some hints. One of those I just mentioned. Another is John calling him “son.” And if you remember, Alicia also mentions more than a couple of times that they both sound similar. Also one more thing I believe Chloe is not John and Nichole's daughter.
wow, You're saying that instead of a "metaphorical son" it's a "literal" son. Well, that would explain the "John and MC are the same" and would explain the sex scene between Chloe and MC being "off", I'm not saying it's a crazy theory, but I see it as 70% "crazy" with 30% "I see it as possible"(but it leaves many questions, like "John and Jenny have crossed paths before ?" and "John's instincts for control have been going on for longer than five years".)
 

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First of all, John is my favorite character in the game. He is the only one who has remained unchanged no matter the circumstances. Now, to answer your question: in Part 10, when the MC and Silvia visit the clothing store run by Alicia, she raises a very important question — why would John appoint a male in his office? She is surprised to see the MC, as she had never seen any male worker at Magic Grand. All those who work there are alluring women, and we know what purposes John uses them for. So, unless there is a very special reason, John would not appoint the MC.


I personally believe the MC is John’s son. Though we don’t have much proof to support this, there are some hints. One of those I just mentioned. Another is John calling him “son.” And if you remember, Alicia also mentions more than a couple of times that they both sound similar. Also one more thing I believe Chloe is not John and Nichole's daughter.
There has been a lot of theorizing in this thread about the possibility of MC being John's son, the most likely possibility being (and as long as Orb maintains his intentions of not pissing off the puritanical Patreon managers) that MC was not raised by his biological parents but by his biological uncles, since in that case he would be the secret son of John and Jenny's heart-sick sister. But for this to comply with Patreon's current policies, Chloe should not be the biological daughter of John and Nicole, but of another couple (in this regard, the most likely possibility would be that of Abigail's sister, due to the enormous resemblance between her and Chloe).
 

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First of all, John is my favorite character in the game. He is the only one who has remained unchanged no matter the circumstances. Now, to answer your question: in Part 10, when the MC and Silvia visit the clothing store run by Alicia, she raises a very important question — why would John appoint a male in his office? She is surprised to see the MC, as she had never seen any male worker at Magic Grand. All those who work there are alluring women, and we know what purposes John uses them for. So, unless there is a very special reason, John would not appoint the MC.


I personally believe the MC is John’s son. Though we don’t have much proof to support this, there are some hints. One of those I just mentioned. Another is John calling him “son.” And if you remember, Alicia also mentions more than a couple of times that they both sound similar. Also one more thing I believe Chloe is not John and Nichole's daughter.
Just like what J0K3RXXX has said, there has been a theory and many discussions going on on how MC (US) can be John's biological son and how it can avoid incest and not violate Patreon guidelines.

The theory is that Hal and Jenny (correct me if I'm wrong on the names) are MC (US) Uncle and Aunt, and our true biological mother is our Aunt Martha (correct me if I'm wrong on the name). I forgot the user's name here who came up with this theory, and if you're reading this, please feel free to take credit.

To avoid incest and Dev Orb violating Patreon guidelines. For Chloe, she has to be like MC (US) situation. Nicole and John are not Chloe's biological parents.
 

Carl Sagan 42

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There has been a lot of theorizing in this thread about the possibility of MC being John's son, the most likely possibility being (and as long as Orb maintains his intentions of not pissing off the puritanical Patreon managers) that MC was not raised by his biological parents but by his biological uncles, since in that case he would be the secret son of John and Jenny's heart-sick sister. But for this to comply with Patreon's current policies, Chloe should not be the biological daughter of John and Nicole, but of another couple (in this regard, the most likely possibility would be that of Abigail's sister, due to the enormous resemblance between her and Chloe).
Yeah, I know and I already mentioned in my earlier comment that Chloe might not be John and Nichole’s daughter. But I still strongly believe the MC is John’s son. As for who his mother could be, that’s a controversial topic. It could be Aunt Martha, or it could even be Jenny herself.
Or just this entire thing could wrong and Hal and Jenny might only be his actual parents.
 

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Just like what J0K3RXXX has said, there has been a theory and many discussions going on on how MC (US) can be John's biological son and how it can avoid incest and not violate Patreon guidelines.

The theory is that Hal and Jenny (correct me if I'm wrong on the names) are MC (US) Uncle and Aunt, and our true biological mother is our Aunt Martha (correct me if I'm wrong on the name). I forgot the user's name here who came up with this theory, and if you're reading this, please feel free to take credit.

To avoid incest and Dev Orb violating Patreon guidelines. For Chloe, she has to be like MC (US) situation. Nicole and John are not Chloe's biological parents.
i'm always ignored. :p

there is way around it, mc is john's son and chloe is nicole's daughter but john isn't chloe's father.
 
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J0K3RXXX

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i'm always ignored. :p

there is way around it, mc is john's son and chloe is nicole's daughter but john isn't chloe's father.
So that possibility would be based on the fact that Nicole has previously been unfaithful to John with a man other than MC, something that I don't think AOT fans will like at all.
 
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Not sure what patreon rules are about games containing incest but you all realize that a child's parent is considered not just his biological but the one who actually raises it right?

P.S: Screw patreon and their fucking rules.
 

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Not sure what patreon rules are about games containing incest but you all realize that a child's parent is considered not just his biological but the one who actually raises it right?

P.S: Screw patreon and their fucking rules.
patreon prohibits any incest. john didn't raise mc instead mc's parents did.

anyways dev won't tell us ever if or if not john is mc's bio father.
 
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J0K3RXXX

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or he drugged nic and impregnated her 1 way or other and by some other guy's semen.
Considering John's personality and his obsession with history and genealogy, I highly doubt that John would conspire in any way to get his wife pregnant by another man without her knowledge.

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However, while I tend to like games with incest themes, I don't think AML would be improved by adding such content to the game.
 

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However, while I tend to like games with incest themes, I don't think AML would be improved by adding such content to the game.
well they (incest lovers) want nic to be mc's mommy and that wouldn't fit to game at all.
 
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So what was the point of the NTR during day19 or 20 ? (Where John & Nicole sleeps together)

Should I continue the game of just delete it ? Cause I dont really consider Nicole as an LI anymore to be honest :unsure:
 

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Hey everyone! Here are two more WIP of Mother's Love Part 16!


Thank you all for your patience and as usual, see you soon :)
Thank you very much for sharing this new Orb post, Raminita.

As for its WIP previews:
  1. The first one will likely show one moment of the scene where some men appeared to be harassing Alicia Robinson and MC as they were walking through a park. After reading that part of the code in one of the early previews for the new Part 16, I initially thought they were just some drunk passersby that the two characters happened to encounter. But now, with this WIP preview, I'm starting to think that this might actually be the first encounter between the MC and some of the thugs that John usually hires to provide muscle for the evictions he orchestrates.
  2. As for the second WIP preview, it's clear that MC is calming or reassuring a woman or that he is carrying her in his arms. The image is still very much a work in progress, but at first glance, it seemed to me that the woman in question could be Silvia (in which case, it looks like she has decided to trust him again, likely after their intense conversation between the three of them (including Nicole) about where they might find the gargoyle that John so desperately wants, and perhaps also about what Alicia Robinson truly wants by blackmailing MC with that gargoyle). However, after taking a closer look, I think it could possibly be the younger sister of the Bakers, who suffers from some illness, and for that reason her older sister decided to steal some money from John. If the last possibility is indeed what actually happens in Part 16, I think it could reveal something that resolves the uncertainty surrounding them and their past, especially regarding that sensational article about their possible parents that MC found while reviewing John's computer files.
Whatever happens in the new Part 16, I'm looking forward to seeing and reading its content.
 

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Hey everyone! Here are two more WIP of Mother's Love Part 16!


Thank you all for your patience and as usual, see you soon :)
Thank you so much for sharing again, Raminita! :love: :love:

Theory time:

I agree with all of the points that J0K3RXXX has said in the two WIP images that were shared with us. But for the second image, I have a feeling the girl we see MC (US) carrying here is Mimi. What will her reaction be, depending on whether we choose to help her or not? We'll soon find that out when Part 16 is released.

As usual, I'm very excited to see what happens when Part 16 is released.
 
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