RPGM A New Life in Submission [v0.03b] [Zenkuro]

[Jeff P. "Benzo" Bezos]

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Zenkuro, let Papa Tate hit that cute little Frenchussy just once

 

[Benease]

It's time.

 

[smellyz44]

- Not a professional artist/coder.
- High maintenance game.
- Doing art/coding/writing/animation/sprites/implementation solo.
- Working part-time with an intensely demanding day job.
- Been open about the game being a side gig since day 1.
- Don't like being at the center of attention.

And most importantly, been pausing Patreon for almost a year now despite continuously drawing new CG whenever I can (closing in on 300 individual new ones).

Any argument you make will automatically have no leg to stand on.
(you've been doing this for months on end, it's time to move on)

I'm complaining because for a year now you've been doing teasers every 3 months saying that the game is coming soon, and every time everyone thinks it's over we see a reappearance with 2-3 images that give false hope.
High maintenance game? At first you managed the updates perfectly, then at some point you stopped, you had your reasons and I can understand, except that you said absolutely nothing, people continued to believe in it as regularly in the femdom community "yes it's coming back soon I'm sure of it".
Yes, you stopped the patreon subscriptions, but only after about 6 months, during which people were expecting/being sub to your patreon.
I know creators are used to being surrounded by yes-men, but my criticisms are much more constructive than "it's a high maintenance game".
A lot of people, including me, were expecting an announcement around Christmas, but nothing, the absolute desert, the despair was palpable in your discord. And the very rare reappearances (2 or 3) only served to maintain this cycle.
After the suspension of patreon, it would have been appropriate to say "I need some time to myself, don't expect anything, the game may be released in full one day, but I guarantee nothing" rather than "As I stated before, I will resume work at the original pace starting September 21st" (from last year), the equivalent of my two lines would have reassured all those who were sad to expect an update since May 3rd (2022).
I'm complaining because I originally thought the game had exceptional potential. I like your game and it's this passion that has led to disappointment, for a simple communication problem. I'll move on when the game is complete.

 

[GoddessKyoko]

I'm complaining because for a year now you've been doing teasers every 3 months saying that the game is coming soon, and every time everyone thinks it's over we see a reappearance with 2-3 images that give false hope.
High maintenance game? At first you managed the updates perfectly, then at some point you stopped, you had your reasons and I can understand, except that you said absolutely nothing, people continued to believe in it as regularly in the femdom community "yes it's coming back soon I'm sure of it".
Yes, you stopped the patreon subscriptions, but only after about 6 months, during which people were expecting/being sub to your patreon.
I know creators are used to being surrounded by yes-men, but my criticisms are much more constructive than "it's a high maintenance game".
A lot of people, including me, were expecting an announcement around Christmas, but nothing, the absolute desert, the despair was palpable in your discord. And the very rare reappearances (2 or 3) only served to maintain this cycle.
After the suspension of patreon, it would have been appropriate to say "I need some time to myself, don't expect anything, the game may be released in full one day, but I guarantee nothing" rather than "As I stated before, I will resume work at the original pace starting September 21st" (from last year), the equivalent of my two lines would have reassured all those who were sad to expect an update since May 3rd (2022).
I'm complaining because I originally thought the game had exceptional potential. I like your game and it's this passion that has led to disappointment, for a simple communication problem. I'll move on when the game is complete.

you are annoying

 

[GearlessJoe]

I'm complaining because for a year now you've been doing teasers every 3 months saying that the game is coming soon, and every time everyone thinks it's over we see a reappearance with 2-3 images that give false hope.
High maintenance game? At first you managed the updates perfectly, then at some point you stopped, you had your reasons and I can understand, except that you said absolutely nothing, people continued to believe in it as regularly in the femdom community "yes it's coming back soon I'm sure of it".
Yes, you stopped the patreon subscriptions, but only after about 6 months, during which people were expecting/being sub to your patreon.
I know creators are used to being surrounded by yes-men, but my criticisms are much more constructive than "it's a high maintenance game".
A lot of people, including me, were expecting an announcement around Christmas, but nothing, the absolute desert, the despair was palpable in your discord. And the very rare reappearances (2 or 3) only served to maintain this cycle.
After the suspension of patreon, it would have been appropriate to say "I need some time to myself, don't expect anything, the game may be released in full one day, but I guarantee nothing" rather than "As I stated before, I will resume work at the original pace starting September 21st" (from last year), the equivalent of my two lines would have reassured all those who were sad to expect an update since May 3rd (2022).
I'm complaining because I originally thought the game had exceptional potential. I like your game and it's this passion that has led to disappointment, for a simple communication problem. I'll move on when the game is complete.

Dude stop. Your constructive criticism is "do a better job communicating"? No shit Sherlock. Zen already knows that's not his forte. And now that he's doing a bit better by giving signs of life once again, it's a weird time to be going on about that issue. You're clearly not great at communicating yourself either.

 

[obiruto]

you are annoying

Very annoying indeed

 

[stereokillah]

incredibly annoying

 

[Lemurian]

Facepalm react my message all you want, it just shows you have no comeback smellyz44

Unlike you some people prefer quality over quantity : P

 

[Zenkuro]

I'm complaining because for a year now you've been doing teasers every 3 months saying that the game is coming soon, and every time everyone thinks it's over we see a reappearance with 2-3 images that give false hope.

It was a cycle of busy months where the most I could do was draw, into slightly less busy weeks where I try to implement said drawings. The only instance where I said I could have something ready soon enough was during January's update, and at the time it did seem like it could be the case, but I didn't account for the sizable amount of CGs that was starting to pile up from the previous "busy" months.

High maintenance game? At first you managed the updates perfectly, then at some point you stopped, you had your reasons and I can understand, except that you said absolutely nothing, people continued to believe in it as regularly in the femdom community "yes it's coming back soon I'm sure of it".

My day job schedule was relatively permissive at the time, but I was working 6-8 hours on the game DAILY (12 during weekends) due to the initial optimism I had after making the first release and seeing how it well it was taken. This came at the expense of my personal/social life.
I can tell you with absolute confidence: that was a mistake I'll never make again.
The only way you'll ever be able to expect a similar release schedule, at least with the same amount of content is if I can hire outside help.

Yes, you stopped the patreon subscriptions, but only after about 6 months, during which people were expecting/being sub to your patreon.

Now you're being disingenuous, It was paused during September, that's four months, which is roughly the same amount of time it took to make the 0.02 version (especially when you consider that I had some CGs pre-drawn for that version beforehand as evident from the teaser pictures I had posted months before I made the initial release). The argument about people expecting content makes no sense because it would imply that I had stopped working completely on the game or have made the decision to take a pause, which was not the case at all, I was still drawing regularly, just at a slower pace.

Side note, but considering a typical CG takes between 2-4 hours for me to complete, It's safe to say that I have well beyond 1000 hours clocked in on the game since the last update, which when you consider how much I made from it (and how much a single CG costs by a hired artist), it might as well count as slavery.
The only reason I continue is because I enjoy "most" of the process of making ANLIS, and turning down money should be a good enough proof for that, I'm not sure why you insist on wanting to make me look like the bad guy.


You say you want to offer constructive criticism, but all it takes is a simple search of your name on this thread, and this is what you get:

ye recently like two months ago, big changes since then as we can all see.

This was posted by you exactly one month after I announced my return by the end of June.
More grossly exaggerated statements with the purpose to antagonize me.

most likely, the mods are trying to gain time for milking patreons but eh...

Accusing my mods who are really great people and have nothing to do with any of this.

I'm usually that kind of guy, i was one of the first to do that for Domina.

Openly admitting that you like to stir shit up.

Ty for the insider news. Also, love when you tell us to shut up, LadyBoss

I'm not even gonna comment on this one.


If this is what counts as "constructive criticism", then I'm good.

 

[Zenkuro]

I feel like a reddit user after posting that wall of text, and also the sudden need to take a shower.
Suffice to say, I won't be replying to anything after this.

 

[Metalkick]

I feel like a reddit user after posting that wall of text, and also the sudden need to take a shower.
Suffice to say, I won't be replying to anything after this.

Between me and you, addressing criticism is one thing and is good from time to time as it can clear the air, but you shouldn't spend too much time and patience to reply to all this. It's not worth the headache. Focus on you, your game, give progress update and deliver the good when you can. Just glad to see you're back in action.

 

[ScotchCreamVO]

No matter what you make, how good it is, or how frequently you work on it, someone will always be upset. That's the way it is and it sucks. Just focus on you and your project. I think the level-headed people around here are all pretty much in agreeance that you've not done anything wrong. If a couple schmucks say you have, then let them be wrong. It's one of the hardest lessons you learn as a creative, but it is universally true: some people will just be wrong about you and have all the confidence in the world about being wrong.

 

[Megussss]

Just let the painter paint.

 

[Succubus Hunter]

you are annoying

I am in the same boat on Smelly being annoying.

 

[f050]

I feel like a reddit user after posting that wall of text, and also the sudden need to take a shower.
Suffice to say, I won't be replying to anything after this.

Sometimes you really gotta fend for yourself when something's really frustrating you. Sometimes you just gotta lay down the law. A lot of us are just glad you're back. Keep going on your own pace, champ. We believe in you

 

[stereokillah]

Zenkuro, dont even reply to stuff like that, it is not worth it

 

[Redgate]

I'm complaining because for a year now you've been doing teasers every 3 months saying that the game is coming soon, and every time everyone thinks it's over we see a reappearance with 2-3 images that give false hope.
High maintenance game? At first you managed the updates perfectly, then at some point you stopped, you had your reasons and I can understand, except that you said absolutely nothing, people continued to believe in it as regularly in the femdom community "yes it's coming back soon I'm sure of it".
Yes, you stopped the patreon subscriptions, but only after about 6 months, during which people were expecting/being sub to your patreon.
I know creators are used to being surrounded by yes-men, but my criticisms are much more constructive than "it's a high maintenance game".
A lot of people, including me, were expecting an announcement around Christmas, but nothing, the absolute desert, the despair was palpable in your discord. And the very rare reappearances (2 or 3) only served to maintain this cycle.
After the suspension of patreon, it would have been appropriate to say "I need some time to myself, don't expect anything, the game may be released in full one day, but I guarantee nothing" rather than "As I stated before, I will resume work at the original pace starting September 21st" (from last year), the equivalent of my two lines would have reassured all those who were sad to expect an update since May 3rd (2022).
I'm complaining because I originally thought the game had exceptional potential. I like your game and it's this passion that has led to disappointment, for a simple communication problem. I'll move on when the game is complete.

you complain every single week about no updates to a free porn game. fuck off retard

 

[herbiterbi]

you are annoying

Thank you

 

[smellyz44]

Facepalm react my message all you want, it just shows you have no comeback smellyz44

Unlike you some people prefer quality over quantity : P

I'm much more vindictive with Dekarous than with Zenkuro, for those who wonder why this banner is that I like the first three Domina characters, released a very long time ago, Dekarous released a very good concept and start to the game before everything went all over the place, which seems to be the norm in this kind of game.
I can see from your comment that you don't have the IQ to understand my messages, you use pre-constructed phrases for sheep, so stick to the discord.

 

[smellyz44]

It was a cycle of busy months where the most I could do was draw, into slightly less busy weeks where I try to implement said drawings. The only instance where I said I could have something ready soon enough was during January's update, and at the time it did seem like it could be the case, but I didn't account for the sizable amount of CGs that was starting to pile up from the previous "busy" months.


My day job schedule was relatively permissive at the time, but I was working 6-8 hours on the game DAILY (12 during weekends) due to the initial optimism I had after making the first release and seeing how it well it was taken. This came at the expense of my personal/social life.
I can tell you with absolute confidence: that was a mistake I'll never make again.
The only way you'll ever be able to expect a similar release schedule, at least with the same amount of content is if I can hire outside help.


Now you're being disingenuous, It was paused during September, that's four months, which is roughly the same amount of time it took to make the 0.02 version (especially when you consider that I had some CGs pre-drawn for that version beforehand as evident from the teaser pictures I had posted months before I made the initial release). The argument about people expecting content makes no sense because it would imply that I had stopped working completely on the game or have made the decision to take a pause, which was not the case at all, I was still drawing regularly, just at a slower pace.

Side note, but considering a typical CG takes between 2-4 hours for me to complete, It's safe to say that I have well beyond 1000 hours clocked in on the game since the last update, which when you consider how much I made from it (and how much a single CG costs by a hired artist), it might as well count as slavery.
The only reason I continue is because I enjoy "most" of the process of making ANLIS, and turning down money should be a good enough proof for that, I'm not sure why you insist on wanting to make me look like the bad guy.


You say you want to offer constructive criticism, but all it takes is a simple search of your name on this thread, and this is what you get:

This was posted by you exactly one month after I announced my return by the end of June.
More grossly exaggerated statements with the purpose to antagonize me.



Accusing my mods who are really great people and have nothing to do with any of this.



Openly admitting that you like to stir shit up.



I'm not even gonna comment on this one.


If this is what counts as "constructive criticism", then I'm good.

You see Zenkuro, the negative thing about communicating with people, so one thing you can't know, is that later on some ill-intentioned person can come along and take phrases out of context to try and pass you off as some idea they have of you no matter how far from reality it is. The context, which was very much shared, was that I was very salty because I was waiting for a new patch but nothing was coming, and in the discord it said for the most part that the return was imminent. it wasn't, and then long afterwards I understood for myself that I shouldn't wait for anything and shouldn't believe in these announced returns. If you had made the announcement to stop expecting anything, none of these messages would have existed.

Yes, I've said all that, but so what? When I talk about yes-men the topic soon fills up with this to prove my point. Your mods are inevitably part of it, and it's hardly surprising since that's the purpose of their "job", besides those who jumped on my post as soon as it appeared are perhaps some of them

ye recently like two months ago, big changes since then as we can all see.

This was posted by you exactly one month after I announced my return by the end of June.
More grossly exaggerated statements with the purpose to antagonize me.

Yes, this message is correct, you had announced your return for the umpteenth time and nothing happened.

I'm usually that kind of guy, i was one of the first to do that for Domina.

Openly admitting that you like to stir shit up.

Yes, I give sincere, head-on feedback that makes people react (this guy is so annoyiiiing!), and this has an undeniable effect, since it's impossible to see you talking about your work as openly as you did after this post, so you're welcome!

Ty for the insider news. Also, love when you tell us to shut up, LadyBoss

I'm not even gonna comment on this one.


If this is what counts as "constructive criticism", then I'm good.

Oh come on, you're working on a femdom game and on a femdom site you're acting like a guy shocked that a guy likes a woman telling him to shut up? You're gonna make your guy dirty like that? Now that's low!

Now that the bandage has been ripped off, yes, put all that energy you have for replying to me into developing the game and it'll be out next week!