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Sadowdark

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Personally, I have butthurt due to the fact that the game positions itself as a story, where we ourselves shape the characters and decide the future of marriage, but in fact this is not so.
Characters are already shaped, we have no influence on their decisions, and relationships are doomed.
For anyone who thinks Chris has already won or Anna is allowing him too much on the Loyalty path, . Or the choices don't matter

what the dev says about this game, these are his posts that I collected in their entirety.

Dev's words

,,Well, you won't be able to fully control her... she's an established person with beliefs and natural tendencies. But, you can be the angel on her shoulder influencing her thoughts and behaviors... or you can be the devil :p. Beware though, Anna is dealing with a lot of hormones at the moment, and she's on edge with things happening at home and at work. If you nudge her too far in the wrong direction, she could lose control,,

,,If you try your best to save the marriage, you won't be forced into any "gotcha!" scenes where Anna is conquered by another man. I know people would argue Anna sending sexy pics is being forced into cheating, but I disagree, and besides, you don't even know or have yet to determine how Anna responded to sending those pics... maybe she hated doing it. That's for you to decide ;). I like David and Anna, and if you want to save their marriage, I'm cool with that and want to see it happen, so there's a path.
I will warn though - if you make some bad choices - that could backfire. Just like in real life, choices have an impact and you can't control the results. If NTR scares someone so much, I'd tell them just to avoid this game. I think the choices will be fairly obvious though,,.

Hello,
The renders are done for Anna's Monday, and I'm going to put everything together to release it, hopefully today. In the meantime, I want to post about the choices in APM. I told everyone I would make this post.
To be honest, this has been a difficult post to make. For one, I don't like spoiling anything. I know people want to know what directions the story goes, but I'm trying to pattern this like a real-life simulation. In life, you don't have a road map that tells you what's going to happen. You have to make decisions and deal with the outcomes of those decisions, especially in relationships like a marriage.
I also don't want to set expectations for myself in terms of how the story has to end. It really depends on time. The more time I have, the faster I can develop this, and the faster I develop it, the more content I can pack into the story, including introducing new characters and new routes. But I'm very careful not to make this too complex where it's going to take years to finish. Therefore, I don't want to spend time trying to manage the reader's expectations based on a road map I've laid out. I'd rather just continue to focus on producing the content. Things will become clearer as the story moves along.
All that said, I don't want you to be completely blind about the choices you make. I think the best way to give you an idea of the impact of them is to list some general comments and hints about the choices presented in the story so far through Part 1. I think after you finish Part 2 and see Anna's side, we can have another post like this.
Here are my general comments, and hopefully this will give you a better understanding about the choices:
- Some choices only influence the personalities of David and Anna. This doesn't mean their actions will drastically change in the story based on these particular decisions, but their dialogue and the way they interact can change. To be clear - Anna and David are who they are - you can't make them different people, but you CAN influence them with your choices and nudge them in certain directions.
- Some choices impact the direction of story in Part 3. There's no plans to force you into a situation you don't want to experience, as long as you make fairly obvious choices. My intent is not to "gotcha!" you. But, just as it is in all facets of life, choices have results, and I'm not going to add a trigger that allows you to back out of choices you make. If that makes you nervous, you shouldn't play this game. But again, in my opinion the choices will be fair. I don't WANT to make you suffer.
- I want to stress that you do NOT have to "corrupt" Anna in order to have naughty choices for her. In most interactive visual novels, you have to corrupt the main characters in order to have future choices that allow them to do bad things. That's not the case here. There are paths where you can influence Anna to be a genuinely good wife who wants to make her marriage work and who loves her husband... but she'll still be able to make "mistakes" later in the story ;)
- Anna doesn't like to be left in the dark with David. While she wants a marriage built on trust, she doesn’t like being blindsided, lied to, or deceived. Anna’s trust in David largely hinges on his communication skills.
- Anna isn't attracted to David when he’s insecure. But at the same time, Anna tends to be naive to peoples' intentions, so David would be wise to keep an eye out. This is a tight rope to walk... David doesn't want to push Anna away by being jealous of other men, but he also doesn't want her taken advantage of.
- David’s not the type to flirt with other women, so Anna would be surprised and confused if this happens.
- My last comment... Part 2 is largely kinetic like Part 1. You can influence some events and can shape Anna during it, but Part 2 ends at the same exact point as it ended in Part 1. Sorry to all you 'Back to the Future' fans, but you cannot change the outcome of Part 1's Saturday, no matter what you do. David will still come home to an upset Anna who tells him to leave.
Hope this post helps. I'll try to be responsive if any of you have questions, but just understand that I have limited free time, so the more I focus on answering questions, the less time I have to develop... and I definitely want to progress the story! Just pointing that out so you don't think I'm ignoring you.
 

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Everyone hates Chris for being such an asshole and see him getting the bill for it in the future. The reality is that Anna is playing his game and it's only just beginning. She had an orgasm thinking about him, she had his cock in front of her face because she wanted it, he touched her anus with no problem. Dear moralists, he won a long time ago. :devilish:
It's not real hate, Chris is a means to an end. The story is designed in such a way that the toxic ex does anything to sabotage her ex's marriage, drives Anna into the hands of someone else. Her husband will cheat too. And chris is now one of those hands. The story will be very evil, dramatic and most of all sexual. :cool:
 

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For anyone who thinks Chris has already won or Anna is allowing him too much on the Loyalty path, . Or the choices don't matter

what the dev says about this game, these are his posts that I collected in their entirety.

Dev's words

,,Well, you won't be able to fully control her... she's an established person with beliefs and natural tendencies. But, you can be the angel on her shoulder influencing her thoughts and behaviors... or you can be the devil :p. Beware though, Anna is dealing with a lot of hormones at the moment, and she's on edge with things happening at home and at work. If you nudge her too far in the wrong direction, she could lose control,,

,,If you try your best to save the marriage, you won't be forced into any "gotcha!" scenes where Anna is conquered by another man. I know people would argue Anna sending sexy pics is being forced into cheating, but I disagree, and besides, you don't even know or have yet to determine how Anna responded to sending those pics... maybe she hated doing it. That's for you to decide ;). I like David and Anna, and if you want to save their marriage, I'm cool with that and want to see it happen, so there's a path.
I will warn though - if you make some bad choices - that could backfire. Just like in real life, choices have an impact and you can't control the results. If NTR scares someone so much, I'd tell them just to avoid this game. I think the choices will be fairly obvious though,,.

Hello,
The renders are done for Anna's Monday, and I'm going to put everything together to release it, hopefully today. In the meantime, I want to post about the choices in APM. I told everyone I would make this post.
To be honest, this has been a difficult post to make. For one, I don't like spoiling anything. I know people want to know what directions the story goes, but I'm trying to pattern this like a real-life simulation. In life, you don't have a road map that tells you what's going to happen. You have to make decisions and deal with the outcomes of those decisions, especially in relationships like a marriage.
I also don't want to set expectations for myself in terms of how the story has to end. It really depends on time. The more time I have, the faster I can develop this, and the faster I develop it, the more content I can pack into the story, including introducing new characters and new routes. But I'm very careful not to make this too complex where it's going to take years to finish. Therefore, I don't want to spend time trying to manage the reader's expectations based on a road map I've laid out. I'd rather just continue to focus on producing the content. Things will become clearer as the story moves along.
All that said, I don't want you to be completely blind about the choices you make. I think the best way to give you an idea of the impact of them is to list some general comments and hints about the choices presented in the story so far through Part 1. I think after you finish Part 2 and see Anna's side, we can have another post like this.
Here are my general comments, and hopefully this will give you a better understanding about the choices:
- Some choices only influence the personalities of David and Anna. This doesn't mean their actions will drastically change in the story based on these particular decisions, but their dialogue and the way they interact can change. To be clear - Anna and David are who they are - you can't make them different people, but you CAN influence them with your choices and nudge them in certain directions.
- Some choices impact the direction of story in Part 3. There's no plans to force you into a situation you don't want to experience, as long as you make fairly obvious choices. My intent is not to "gotcha!" you. But, just as it is in all facets of life, choices have results, and I'm not going to add a trigger that allows you to back out of choices you make. If that makes you nervous, you shouldn't play this game. But again, in my opinion the choices will be fair. I don't WANT to make you suffer.
- I want to stress that you do NOT have to "corrupt" Anna in order to have naughty choices for her. In most interactive visual novels, you have to corrupt the main characters in order to have future choices that allow them to do bad things. That's not the case here. There are paths where you can influence Anna to be a genuinely good wife who wants to make her marriage work and who loves her husband... but she'll still be able to make "mistakes" later in the story ;)
- Anna doesn't like to be left in the dark with David. While she wants a marriage built on trust, she doesn’t like being blindsided, lied to, or deceived. Anna’s trust in David largely hinges on his communication skills.
- Anna isn't attracted to David when he’s insecure. But at the same time, Anna tends to be naive to peoples' intentions, so David would be wise to keep an eye out. This is a tight rope to walk... David doesn't want to push Anna away by being jealous of other men, but he also doesn't want her taken advantage of.
- David’s not the type to flirt with other women, so Anna would be surprised and confused if this happens.
- My last comment... Part 2 is largely kinetic like Part 1. You can influence some events and can shape Anna during it, but Part 2 ends at the same exact point as it ended in Part 1. Sorry to all you 'Back to the Future' fans, but you cannot change the outcome of Part 1's Saturday, no matter what you do. David will still come home to an upset Anna who tells him to leave.
Hope this post helps. I'll try to be responsive if any of you have questions, but just understand that I have limited free time, so the more I focus on answering questions, the less time I have to develop... and I definitely want to progress the story! Just pointing that out so you don't think I'm ignoring you.
Thanks, I read that, but it was relevant only before the release of this update.
I really expected Anna's point of view, where I could see her vision of relations with Chris, and as I wrote above - all I saw was crap in the style of "this is innocent flirting" and "he's not serious, it's just a joke"

The author writes that we have a choice. Where?
We don't get to choose if she sexts him, we don't get to choose if she sends him a picture, we don't get to choose how she reacts to Chris constantly grabbing her ass (in one scene, he practically shoved his hand between her legs ) and the fact that he constantly says that he wants to fuck her, we have no choice how she reacts to his presence in the shower, and so on.

Her weird "relationship" with Chris is cheating. This is already a fact. Her marriage is already dead.

Yes, David can be sweet and good simp and forgive her for everything, but then again, that doesn't change the fact that she's already cheated and their marriage is over.
 

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Thanks, I read that, but it was relevant only before the release of this update.
I really expected Anna's point of view, where I could see her vision of relations with Chris, and as I wrote above - all I saw was crap in the style of "this is innocent flirting" and "he's not serious, it's just a joke"

The author writes that we have a choice. Where?
We don't get to choose if she sexts him, we don't get to choose if she sends him a picture, we don't get to choose how she reacts to Chris constantly grabbing her ass (in one scene, he practically shoved his hand between her legs ) and the fact that he constantly says that he wants to fuck her, we have no choice how she reacts to his presence in the shower, and so on.

Her weird "relationship" with Chris is cheating. This is already a fact. Her marriage is already dead.

Yes, David can be sweet and good simp and forgive her for everything, but then again, that doesn't change the fact that she's already cheated and their marriage is over.
The game has only just begun. And it's far from over. And of course we have the choice. But the choice will probably be limited to which LI we will let go of a Anna or not. It doesn't look to me like there will be a faithful route. But the game is also designed for cheating and NTR. Accordingly we should also expect exactly that. If peopole are not enthusiastic about such an content, they should avoid the game
 
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Personally, I have butthurt due to the fact that the game positions itself as a story, where we ourselves shape the characters and decide the future of marriage, but in fact this is not so.
Characters are already shaped, we have no influence on their decisions, and relationships are doomed.
It has been confirmed many times that in the ode of the game we make a choice and it will lead us to a logical end!
Yes, argument is inevitable, there will be problems in this family! But depending on your choice they can reconcile themselves:
- No one will cheat on anyone = happy ending!
- Anna will cheat once (or more than once), but in the end they will still make up and they will have a happy ending!
- Anna will go all out, but in the end she wants to save their marriage and family!
- Anna will go all out which will lead to divorce and the collapse of the family!
 

Sadowdark

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Thanks, I read that, but it was relevant only before the release of this update.
I really expected Anna's point of view, where I could see her vision of relations with Chris, and as I wrote above - all I saw was crap in the style of "this is innocent flirting" and "he's not serious, it's just a joke"

The author writes that we have a choice. Where?
We don't get to choose if she sexts him, we don't get to choose if she sends him a picture, we don't get to choose how she reacts to Chris constantly grabbing her ass (in one scene, he practically shoved his hand between her legs ) and the fact that he constantly says that he wants to fuck her, we have no choice how she reacts to his presence in the shower, and so on.

Her weird "relationship" with Chris is cheating. This is already a fact. Her marriage is already dead.

Yes, David can be sweet and good simp and forgive her for everything, but then again, that doesn't change the fact that she's already cheated and their marriage is over.
You didn't read carefully

There was supposed to be a choice whether we wanted to send Chris photos or not. It was proposed by Dev, but people here on the forum started crying and under his patronage, and the dev unfortunately gave up on the idea, which was his big mistake. You're still pissed off !!! about it to this day.

,, The author writes that we have a choice. Where? ,, You keep making these choices even if you think I don't have them you will get the results of all your choices from CH1 and Ch2 in Ch3

Ch1 and Ch2 choices are kinetic

,, ,Well, you won't be able to fully control her... she's an established person with beliefs and natural tendencies. But, you can be the angel on her shoulder influencing her thoughts and behaviors... or you can be the devil :p. Beware though, Anna is dealing with a lot of hormones at the moment, and she's on edge with things happening at home and at work. If you nudge her too far in the wrong direction, she could lose control,,


,,,,If you try your best to save the marriage, you won't be forced into any "gotcha!" scenes where Anna is conquered by another man. I know people would argue Anna sending sexy pics is being forced into cheating, but I disagree, and besides, you don't even know or have yet to determine how Anna responded to sending those pics... maybe she hated doing it. That's for you to decide ;). I like David and Anna, and if you want to save their marriage, I'm cool with that and want to see it happen, so there's a path.
 

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Personally, I have butthurt due to the fact that the game positions itself as a story, where we ourselves shape the characters and decide the future of marriage, but in fact this is not so.
Characters are already shaped, we have no influence on their decisions, and relationships are doomed.
Just havin some laughter here. Spicing up the comment section.... My comment is not to be taken seriously.
 
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The game has only just begun. And it's far from over. And of course we have the choice. But the choice will probably be limited to which LI we will let go of a Anna or not. It doesn't look to me like there will be a faithful route. But the game is also designed for cheating and NTR. Accordingly we should also expect exactly that. If peopole are not enthusiastic about such an content, they should avoid the game
It's time to stop with "if you don't like it avoid the game"-shit, because it's not that everyone is self-righteous zealot. The fact is that many people simply get attached to a character and would like to have their say, in a game, and this is especially true if Devs are not "honest" about where the game is going!
 
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So far, there are more signs that Anna wants sex outside of marriage than against it. Why should I, as a player, be the "good angel" on Anna's shoulder when the developer is giving me increasingly clear indications of Anna's development into a cheating wife.
NTR is also the desire for destruction, the desire for humiliation and desire to see other virtual characters suffer. Anyone who can't stand that shouldn't play this game.
I don't think there will be anything like a revenge path for David. Even if Anna learns at the end that it was all just an intrigue, she has profited from it until then, and when David takes her back, he accepts this. Also in this case he would be the loser.
 
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Like others have pointed out there will definately be a faithfull route, but she will still make mistakes. What i am mostly looking forward too is how the developer plans too handle a route where she is not cheating in chapter 3 at the moment its difficult too imagine a true happy ending with so many bad people around the couple. Regarding last update she definately reacts differently too chris depending on points, mostly naughty points and chris points, without any points she more or less ignores him and she dismis any thoughts about him sexually very quickly, but with some points her internal thought change a lot.
 

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1. But it was hopeless. There was no choice how Anne would react when Chris spanked her again in the bathroom, just like at dinner
2. Same with photos for Chris send or not /send
3. I have already rejected Marwin's advances twice, I hope I will have a choice whether Anna should tease him yes/no
3. This dialogue when Kendra talks to someone should be fixed, it should be in a separate dialog. For example, Kendra talks to the mysterious X.
 
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You didn't read carefully

There was supposed to be a choice whether we wanted to send Chris photos or not. It was proposed by Dev, but people here on the forum started crying and under his patronage, and the dev unfortunately gave up on the idea, which was his big mistake. You're still pissed off !!! about it to this day.

,, The author writes that we have a choice. Where? ,, You keep making these choices even if you think I don't have them you will get the results of all your choices from CH1 and Ch2 in Ch3

Ch1 and Ch2 choices are kinetic

,, ,Well, you won't be able to fully control her... she's an established person with beliefs and natural tendencies. But, you can be the angel on her shoulder influencing her thoughts and behaviors... or you can be the devil :p. Beware though, Anna is dealing with a lot of hormones at the moment, and she's on edge with things happening at home and at work. If you nudge her too far in the wrong direction, she could lose control,,


,,,,If you try your best to save the marriage, you won't be forced into any "gotcha!" scenes where Anna is conquered by another man. I know people would argue Anna sending sexy pics is being forced into cheating, but I disagree, and besides, you don't even know or have yet to determine how Anna responded to sending those pics... maybe she hated doing it. That's for you to decide ;). I like David and Anna, and if you want to save their marriage, I'm cool with that and want to see it happen, so there's a path.
I'm already tired of writing the same thing) so briefly, for the last time, what I finally understood

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Add something like that to the "developer notes", and remove the bullshit about choices and character shaping from the description of the game)
I assure you, most arguments will stop immediately.
 

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Well we will see what happends and how the developer deals with his game, its not something i loose sleep over i tend too play different routes but i do feel that a game like this is stronger if there is a pure route there is more too loose then. I still believe what the developer have indicated, that there will be a route where she it not having sex with any other guys, if that is not the case well then its ofc a lie, it will not be the first time a developer have done this and it will not be the last but its not something i think too much about i will just move on.
 
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Let's be serious here, Chris only has his advantages in the game because of Dev and also the fact that he doesn't let the game be identical to this story here.
:unsure: and if by chance Jeke didn't have his protagonism today we'll become inverted roles but he's still one of Ana's main predators that already leaves me happy just for the fact that he is in both stories anyway in my opinion. Jeke is very badass so calm your balls because Anna is going to have a lot of fun with her real predators "JEKE is Anna's real stud codenamed snake" let's not forget Hank's tank and etc... She'll even take pictures with her Renaldo's black mamba or intern for Chris to enjoy. In her amusements around the office I will even now call her office wife 2.0 lol
 
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