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We live in an imperfect world
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We live in an imperfect world
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Somehow this doesn't sit well with me. Why would Anna come to Pigiwno for more money? she works in his company and gets a salary. Even out of submission, when Anna agrees to be Pigiwin's partner for 2 years, he says that he will receive double his salary.maybe to give some contract to David company...and Hank could enjoy Ana and ask some favour from her to satisfy himself and his partners. if you are single then salary feels enough for yourself but if you get some responsibility of family and child etc...all money and salary seems less.
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Your reply to the previous post....
" Blackmail in sense yes she will come to him for money...i meant submission route. If she want more money..she has to do what he want ..."
echos what I been saying which is some over simplistic plots in the game. Yes, it could be just that simple... blackmail...extortion...or in this case a forum prostitution might be the developer's intent. But there are too many hints of more complex plots...and you are right, this possible plot is pretty lame and weak
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Just read latest status update and my expectations are ginormous. That being said I have enjoyed some very nicely tailored moments in this game without epic visual scenes, just from body language, dialogue and nice atmosphere. Of course I want a treat for the eyes, but I won't complain if it's a simple text/emotion based setup that's well done. Problems start when neither of these things are met - no visuals, no atmosphere - then it's just filler no one enjoys. Hopeful and anxious, let's see what the future holds!
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But these are not my words "" Blackmail in the sense of yes, she will come to him for money... I meant the route of surrender. If she wants more money... she has to do what he wants... These are the words of colleague
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Lol I was just predicting...no matter if it's lame but this situation will fit whether you play faithful or corrupt path...no matter which path you choose, this lame reason is the only way hank route will occur. Now Ana can go via submission or as a seducer to get money from hank depending on whatever you played ana to be...Let's see how it goes. He will not create different hank story for faithful and corruption routes. It will be mostly how Ana will react on the situation when the time comes where she will knows about bankruptcy. Either be submissive or she'll become seducer
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Creates all tracks at once and works on the same renders to save time. Paths can only differ in choices or dialogues. If it goes as you say, it will be hopeless and pointless. Which means your choices didn't make any sense, which means the creator lied in every post he made here? “He said that your choices are important and you will receive a summary of them from Ch1, Ch2 to Ch3. Where there will be no more kinetic choices. I don't think he has to cheat people. It's absurd that Anna comes to Henek for money, it doesn't even fit. After all, she works in his company on the faithful path, and on the submissive path she will earn twice as much. Well, unless David goes bankrupt and she dumps him and needs the money for herself and Sophia, then I might agree to it. On the path of submission, he can receive additional compensation for pleasing Henk's friends with his submission.
What choices is pointless and hopeless??? David is Bankrupt whether you play faithful or corruption path.....so this is hopeless and pointless..robinson grope ana even when she is faithful...this is hopeless and pointless...for this thing you supported developer giving hormones excuses lol....that time all "shy ana" goes aside....so whatever you are saying is pointless. Same way hank option will be open to Ana for money whether you play faithful or corruption. Choice to reject Hank scene might be there as an option then she might talk to her uncle for money. He will not dedicate whole renders to create a different dedicated faithful path..that will be useless and waste of time especially in CH 3. He said you can avoid those scene if you dont like it..so yea in that case uncle chris or maybe David father or some other option will open for money. you got 300/400 renders per update...development of faithful path in the end make more sense avoiding all cheating scenes else if he will develop different storyline as per different characters it will become AWAM ...you see if ellie choose or reject logan...he is making 2 different updates..same way this story will update in future if she choose or reject Hank. And I literally don't think that he will dedicate his lifetime on this novel. He mentioned 2/3 years more that wil be the end of this VN
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They are so hopeless and pointless that I play on the faithful path, I rejected the pgwin Ch1.Ch2 on the corruption path, the same thing again, it would be hopeless. He is listed in the statistics as rejected. It's as if nothing has changed. And all the posts in which the creator said that this marriage could be saved and that Anna would not betray David with anyone if we chose well were one big lie? It is never stated that David is bankrupt, only that he has financial problems. The creator said that Anna could be a slut and not cheat, or she could be reluctant and cheat. He said it was up to us. He also said that if you reject Pigiwna, he will still be history and he will still pursue Anna, and she may or may not submit to him. And when the time comes, the creator will make his final choice, causing Piguin and the others to be rejected forever.
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I was using a quote you replied to
And I am in total agreement with you how lame a plot point would be if simple blackmail or extortion is used as a work around for Anna.
I personally think the developer is doing one hell of a job with his story/plot and wouldn't use blackmail or extortion motivations for Anna. Now if I was on the writing staff, my level of detail would be painfully slow in totally fleshing out Anna's character first rather than the developer's route as explaining as he goes. Both are affective writing strategies, but in the world of adult games, my approach falls short because of the impatience of players for new content. So I would have had to been writing and taken half a year before even unveiling the game to overcome that short fall.
However, like you and the rest of the people here, I get to sit back speculate, theorize, and indulge in this work. I have said it before, but the developer can take this story (game) in so many directions and down so many paths that its totally entertaining.
Its way, WAY, too soon but once this version of the game is 80% done, Mr. Palmer ought to spin-off this game with other writers and artist under his direction into other versions. BUT... not as terrible as the spin-offs of AWAM are! Few works are out there that could support re-makes, different versions, and re-casts-- this one has that kind of flexibility
I dont know dude ...First of all you are playing that has corruption and netorare tag game...and then you demand he story should be everywhere else beside this...Like you want all options of corruption and netorare and cheating route to be eliminated from the VN and want pure romantic VN. I can understand you are playing all options to be faithful and remove all CHris hank marvin jake etc all possible corruption route. And want the developer to build a solid romantic route if you stay faithful.
I will say think about it what VN you wanna play once again...Fine from the developer end he told that this game will have NTR if anyone doesnt like it, they should not play...He do gave option to skip scenes with whoever you don't like.
Then in final you judge this game on basis of faithful route and not as a corruption and netorare story...thats double standrd dude. You entered the VN novel knowing that it will be NTR/cheating game then you judge the game based on why it is not faithful and want developer to keep an option open to remove Ana's affair on all corruption path whether it's chris/hank/marvin or whatevr it is...i will say its wrong genre you are playing then. There are romantic route games where no matter what the MC will not cheat. But after entering cheating routes games, and demanding the developer should make faithful routes is unfair or judge the developer that they forced the cheating on MC by poor writing skills or creating unavoidable scene is unfair. This one just said that yes you can avoid scenes like in the upcoming update you will be able to avoid Chris if you rejected him before. That means you will not see extra contents of what he has developed...same way you will be able to avoid all characters contents. if you have rejected their moves previously but thats all developer can do from his side then maybe a different ending where you might have rejeted all charaters...but thats in the end, you cannot avoid the situation to happen no matter which path you are playing....like Chris will be in this update...situation will be there....but as faithful path, you will avoid those contents and the game will end. You missed all dialogue on what Ana has become after slow corruption on path 1/2 and wanted Ana to be same as the first scene of part 1 as faithful and dedicated towards family. And wanna say no to all paths and characters moves towards ana. I can only say you are ether playing wrong game or you wanna avoid developer build only on the basis of faithful routes irrespective of how much he's putting efforts to show sex via slow corruption. I mean he made corrupt route fans wait for 2 years even in full corruption path without showing nudity. and saying sex is too soon after 2.5 years from this story is unfair just because you only stick to faithful route. Ana is getting corrupted but you havent played and saw small dialogues change and her thinking change over those 2 years of time.
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Again, Friend, you don't understand me, if the Creator talked about it in so many posts and said that it is possible to save a marriage without cheating and thanks to the choices we made at the beginning, why would he suddenly change it? would then become unreliable. Besides, the path of faithfulness interests me more at this moment than the path of corruption resulting from this conspiracy, and seeing the faces of sexual predators who have nothing left is sweet to my heart. My playstyle is that if I can, I always play the games on this site first, on the Faithful path, and then on the Corruption path. I interpret the creator's words as a path of loyalty/corruption, because on this path Anna can also betray David reluctantly. Or not, it depends on the player. Don't tell me I don't want sex in this game or anything. The creator should have shown David and Anna having naked sex in the previous chapters. But he didn't, it would have given us a taste of what the game's sex scenes would be like.
I am agreeing to whoever is playing faithful routes....but going forward after this update the chris one...Ana will wear dress that will show her boobs in the office like sexy upper dress...tell me honestly...do you think he will make renders with old dress for faithful path and sexy dress for corrupt route for same office scenes? And dont you think that if anyone is playing faithful path, they will find that if ana is shy then why is she flaunting in sexy dress all of the sudden? obviously there will be different ending maybe with forgiveness etc...as he mentioned...but few things will make no sense and make faithful lovers will make wrong judgement on this VN based on faithful part only. Lets see what reason he will come with on putting Ana in that sexy dress in faithful path.
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But the creator said that this dress will be suitable for every route. I suspect that's why he won't make two for each route, to save time, and it might be something like a Happy Hour dress. And the creator said that this Anna dress won't be slutty and she also said that Anna won't always wear a bold dress. And there may be a choice here. For example, there was such a choice when, when Anna could undo her buttons and tease the old fish Marwion while they show her around the feeding room, the choice whether Anna should undo her buttons more, whether Anna should show her breasts or not, because, as we know, there are no more kinetic choices.This will be a provocative outfit with a high neckline or a short skirt. This is not a slutty outfit. And Anna will rarely wear such dresses to work.
Here you can confirm what the creator of the outfit said
''The artist is working on the last scene of the upcoming update, so once he’s done he’ll shift gears to Tuesday, and I’ll need to provide him Anna’s outfit. This is where I’ll take your input in the poll question.
On Tuesday, Anna makes a conscious decision to wear a more provocative outfit to work, no matter what version of Anna you’ve influenced. Should she showcase her legs in a short skirt, or her breasts in a low cut blouse?
And before you ask, there’s no “Both” option! It takes all she can just to feature one of her assets, given her misguided self-consciousness. Not to say that will always be the case once she gets a taste of the attention and admiration that comes with dressing sexier…''
Show her legs 13% - short skirt revealing legs
Show her breasts 83% -dress with a low neckline and choose whether to unbutton the button to show some breasts or not.
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I can understand but I find few reasoning funny and ironical from faithful path lovers.......just saying like Ana being groped in massage without drinks....they said it was flashback and hormones as a reason and faithful lovers accepted it easily. But if Ana is drunk and needs sexual satisfaction and if we "corrupt route players" wants groping in the bar from marvin then Ana becomes shy and come back to her senses. Same goes with her uncle ...he groped in flashback without alcohol, Ana needed emotional support after her fathers death, couldnt do anything about it..faithful path lovers were fine with it..But when it comes to Ana having scene with Chris after breakup with David and needed emotional support and she was drunk too(sexually dissatisfied).....then groping and sex become way too soon in the game as it's slow corruption lol...ana came to her senses,and need more corruption as she is shy even after having alcohol effect and show just lingerie and ended up with watching chris dick.....and faithful lovers supported it...That's what I meant by double standard of the developer.
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At the beginning there is always a short groping and there is a choice, you can stop it so that it doesn't go too far.Yes that's what i meant...you can stop it ...I am saying that if situation is same as flashback then result should be same too without stopping. End with short grope fine but there should be no option for stopping it. That means you are showing Ana is prone to small corruption during same situations with alcohol...faithful ones should also not be able to stop it. They should be fine with it too. By stopping it means you are forcing Ana characters against her needs even with alcohol just because faithful want Ana to remain shy. That is forced faithfulness not as per the situation.
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But the creator said that this dress will be suitable for every route. I suspect that's why he won't make two for each route, to save time, and it might be something like a Happy Hour dress. Great Point on "time saving" not having to run with two renders. And the type of dress is important. So Anna running around in the office in a China Dress or Cocktail dress just doesn't fit a law office. However, there is a fine line between a stylish and less restive dress and one that says "come jump my bones" dress. I don't recall Mr. Palmer giving us contextual reason why the change styles, though maybe I missed it or misunderstood any explanations. So, let's assume a contextual reason doesn't exist that we are aware of yet-- how might the author address the 800-pound gorilla in the room (players are going to notice).
A} Is it some more Kendra influence to "lighten up"
B} Or a need for validation she still is attractive because Anna has express worry over her "mom bod."
C} Perhaps the hidden inner naughty Anna peeking out
D} Other...
And the creator said that this Anna dress won't be slutty and she also said that Anna won't always wear a bold dress. And there may be a choice here. For example, there was such a choice when, when Anna could undo her buttons and tease the old fish Marwion while they show her around the feeding room, the choice whether Anna should undo her buttons more, whether Anna should show her breasts or not, because, as we know, there are no more kinetic choices I know I am over thinking it at this point, but the feeding room (you say), milking room (says I) needs some functionality in both the equipment handy and attire to make pumping easier. Yes they make special bras for that and open blouses to easily access the breast for 'milking' would be better, so on and so forth. Yet regardless of the settings all sorts of mischief the developer can explore and treat us to.
Weakness of the milking room plot and some minor improvements. As it is, it's just a stage prop that doesn't do much (yet). Now this is my personal easter egg thought that I wish the developer would pick up on is to make better use of that stage prop-- perhaps to better tease ol' Marvin. Or make it a point that Anna feels her breast are engorged and needs milking for relief from the discomfort... plus a few little accidents like slow leaks leaving wet spots on her chest and some embarrassment. Fact is the whole lactation aspect opens the door to any number of situations that is either a main concept to the plots or just a convenient tool to propel the reality the game is working toward.