ItsNotUs

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I agree that developers shouldn't pay attention to most comments like 'you're too slow,' 'I want this,' or 'hey, lesbian-only path?'... We hear that all the time.

As for the Patreon entitlement arguments, I don't check the forum often enough to know if it comes up too much or not. It was just my personal feeling/perspective on these things.
Why even bother drawing attention to it, really?
When there is a stable fan base of support that feeds financially! And when, against the background of examples of the same LP, which has not really advanced in the plot for 7 whole years, it is already the 8th year.
Why pay attention to errors and shortcomings in images such as black dots-water!
Why develop and become better when people will swallow it anyway! Right?
 
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Lounatick

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Why even bother drawing attention to it, really?
When there is a stable fan base of support that feeds financially! And when, against the background of examples of the same LP, which has not really advanced in the plot for 7 whole years, it is already the 8th year.
Why pay attention to errors and shortcomings in images such as black dots-water!
Why develop and become better when people will swallow it anyway! Right?
I think that's where we see different kinds of people: those who just want to sell a product and those who truly want to create an experience.

Some developers see Patreon or SubscribeStar as a means to an end—an income stream that allows them to maintain a comfortable status quo. They deliver just enough to keep their audience engaged without necessarily pushing themselves to improve. And as long as the financial support continues to flow, there’s little incentive for them to change.

Then, there are those who see game development as a passion, an art form, or even a challenge. For them, every detail matters, every update is an opportunity to refine their craft, and player feedback—whether positive or critical—is a tool for growth. They strive to create something meaningful, not just something that will ‘sell.’

Of course, financial stability plays a role in how much time and energy a dev can dedicate to their project. But at the end of the day, the real difference lies in intent. Some devs are satisfied with doing the bare minimum, while others feel a genuine responsibility toward their audience and their own creative vision.

That’s why you’ll always see a split: some games stagnate for years while others evolve, improve, and leave a lasting impact. It all depends on which type of creator is behind them.
 

Enola Gay

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Wow quite a drama here.

Honest question:

Is he really (MP) offline that often? I mean does he really pause game development a lot of times? Because I've observed this game for some time and I didn't notice such a behaviour from his side. That's the first time actually.

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TeamEquipe

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The script is the most complicated part and APM is above average in difficulty.
One starts a game and thinks he can handle it, the reality is a bit different. If you don't make enough money to make a living from it, chances are high that the "abandoned" tag will appear.
I'm not saying he's doing a bad job, far from it, but if this is Mr. Palmer's first time writing a story, I mean, if he doesn't have the writing bug.... things will get stuck.
This is far from being Mr_Palmer first story, he is an accomplished author of erotic tales.
The only thing standing in his way is "Real Life."
 

TeamEquipe

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He got the writer's permission to use his story, but this game has long had its own way.


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The question is what does TeamEquipe like to read? :ROFLMAO: And how did Mr. Palmer end up at TeamEquipe? I mean, do the two of them share common tastes? :unsure: If so, we could approximate the direction in which APM will go.
My relationship with Mr_Palmer has been explained many times on here already, so I am not going to satisfy your curiosity by explaining it again.
If you're that bothered I suggest you go back through all the posts on this thread until you find it.
 
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Couto25

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Wow quite a drama here.

Honest question:

Is he really (MP) offline that often? I mean does he really pause game development a lot of times? Because I've observed this game for some time and I didn't notice such a behaviour from his side. That's the first time actually.

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He didnt pause payment before but he do take breaks since last 2/3 updates before workload but for different reasons besides storm too. lol..well he's family guy. And he got slow in development since last year i guess.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Wow quite a drama here.

Honest question:

Is he really (MP) offline that often? I mean does he really pause game development a lot of times? Because I've observed this game for some time and I didn't notice such a behaviour from his side. That's the first time actually.

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No, he's fine. People have just been burned way too often and now they're hyper critical. I can't blame them, we've seen a lot of devs silently abandon their games after saying they're only taking "a break". Palmer has been a fair dev up until this point, and he's paused payments, so in a vacuum I think he deserves some leeway.
 

Ahalya

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This dev used to consistently release update within 30 days to 45 days but now he got too slow. Last update came long back and we have no confirmation when next update will come out. I think he wants anticipation to be built and milk as much as possible before it goes down hill like college kings or being a dik.
 

Couto25

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This dev used to consistently release update within 30 days to 45 days but now he got too slow. Last update came long back and we have no confirmation when next update will come out. I think he wants anticipation to be built and milk as much as possible before it goes down hill like college kings or being a dik.
being a dik, college kings are not build based on anticipation lol....it has alot of contents in it...like the whole chapters is released once in a year....and they have alot of sex in it since the first release itself..so i dont think they release to tease the gamers and leave the audience to crave for sex in future updates. If someone anticipate it's only related to story. And it's logical like if they include alot of mini games, multiple paths with different girls to score will take time. so these games are not milking atleast in the name of sex lol. But yes if the story is not that good then developers introduce those tease for years is milking. I dont think a good story needs milking techniques. This game idk i am just going with the flow whatever MP has to say. He has different reasons but it all comes whether the wait is worth or not in the end. Doesn't matter if developer takes 2/3 years of time. But does the update launched after 2/3 years worth the wait scene wise and content wise? It's on individual.
 

JRU2356

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There were clear tell tale signs that the dev is struggling to keep up with updates since last two times. He seems to be too much entangled irl n he should sort that out first.
his last episode was total shit for me. Don’t know from where the blowjob came. There was hardly any buildup for it. So I would rather wait den have another messed up update.
 

daddy6923

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After resuming the payments.. i think dev will still take an entire month to release the update. My guess is april end or may 1st week
 

Fat Brit 56

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This AVN lost it's way a long time ago, the developer tried to be too clever over complicating a revenge tale, dragging it and the updates out, we used to look forward to the next update but now either don't care or just want to see a disappointing and unsatisfactory end. A lot of developer's jump ship suppose at least this one seems to have stuck with it.
 
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