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Puma1978

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Just finished the new abrupt content and its not bad...but hope its not the end but will get finished. I assume the endings in gallery which are marked green are finished and the white ones not. So i expect for the abrupt path here still additional content. (BTW..there is also written in brown letters beneath that there are future updates coming) Since i had to play from beginning...its clearly visible that the new artist is not as good as the old one especially in animated scenes Lauras Legs are too massive compared to her body and also the facial expression is different.
 
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ComplexOne2

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We still have a long ways to go before Aya's route but i'm now more certain than ever, Luca is gonna help Aya "steal" Harry from Lauren at first but then he'll realise he's not content with Harry having any girl and Aya herself is gonna realise that her expectations in Harry were misplaced.
 

AlphaDlaW

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A vocal minority.

The reality is that the only thing absolutely required for a story to be NTR is for the MC's lover/love interest to be stolen from them. The MC doesn't even have to be in the picture for most of the story for it to work. All that is required is for the FMC to be fucking and falling in love with someone other than the MC.

We all might disagree with each other about what we want to see from Harry in this story, but what we are really here to see is Laura betraying him. That's what keeps us coming back. That's what makes it NTR.

Harry's suffering is just window dressing. On the same note, having Harry move on and recover is also window dressing. Same thing for seeing him gut Luca like a fish. All of it is fine, but none of it is necessary for the NTR aspect of the story. It's a matter of personal taste, just like how you prefer your steak. Regardless of whether you want it to be rare (MC is sad), medium (MC cries while jerking off), or well-done (MC finds a nice rope to spend the rest of his life with), at the end of the day you still just want a fucking steak (The FMC's corruption and betrayal).
I would have to disagree with you there. what makes ntr great is both watching the girl fall in love/being taken by another man but also seeing the mc's reaction to it. that reaction being anything from a gullible idiot who never finds out to a heart broken man who caught/saw her in the act. the mc and their role in the story is very important and his suffering is extremely vital to tell a good ntr. as for harry gutting Luca, that part is unneeded.
 

mzer0

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I would have to disagree with you there. what makes ntr great is both watching the girl fall in love/being taken by another man but also seeing the mc's reaction to it. that reaction being anything from a gullible idiot who never finds out to a heart broken man who caught/saw her in the act. the mc and their role in the story is very important and his suffering is extremely vital to tell a good ntr. as for harry gutting Luca, that part is unneeded.
You contradict yourself with that one line (highlighted in yellow). If it is acceptable for the cuck to never find out, then it is acceptable to leave his reaction out of the story entirely.

Also, you're misrepresenting me. I never said that the MC's reaction didn't add to the NTR (In fact, I acknowledged that it could, depending on your preference), I said that the MC's reaction/suffering wasn't required for a story to be considered NTR in response to the poster I was replying to.

An NTR story that leaves out the MC's reaction is definitely less impactful, but it's still NTR.
 

jojogeo

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You contradict yourself with that one line (highlighted in yellow). If it is acceptable for the cuck to never find out, then it is acceptable to leave his reaction out of the story entirely.
If the cuck never finds out, how can he reacts to anything ?
If he finds out and has no reaction, it's just lazy.
Why wasting time with a husband as the MC ?
 

lkjhgfdfghjkl

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The last two or three updates were done by a different one. Also HC mentioned he was not really happy with some.
You sure? I thought the newer artist did most of the static cgs this update and the old 1 did the final scene. The newer artist (that didn't leave) has more consistent quality imo
 
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mzer0

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Is Ntr avoidable?
Yes. Quite possible, actually.

First, download the game and start playing it normally.

Then, and this is the important part, when it gets to the point in the story where Luca asks Harry to get the thumbdrive for him, detach the cables from your PC, pick it up, and then throw it out the window. This will work best if done from at least the second floor.

(If your current place of residence doesn't have a second floor, considering moving before attempting this. Real estate advice is beyond the scope of this guide.)

If Harry still ends up raising Luca's kids, you did something wrong.
 
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Terix3

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You contradict yourself with that one line (highlighted in yellow). If it is acceptable for the cuck to never find out, then it is acceptable to leave his reaction out of the story entirely.
No, there is significant difference and a cut off point between ntr and cheating.
If MC is not present at all you are losing on the aspect of girl getting off on the risk of being found out. You are missing on the lies and gaslighting that she needs to come up with. Finally you are missing out on MC stupid reactions, cluelessness, humiliation or even excuses he comes out himself to justify girls unusual behavior.

IF all that is missing the story should be just tagged as cheating.

Obviously there is the other aspect of NTR - wher MC is aware and either into it (netorase) or powerless. Then you are also missing on all or most of the above. But that can't be considered cheating and is tagged as NTR as well for the lack of separate tag.
 
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mzer0

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(Mods will probably delete this for off-topic, but whatever.)

Both of you are missing the point.


No, there is significant difference and a cut off point between ntr and cheating.
...Yes, and that cut off is whether or not the FMC is stolen from the MC. The MC's reaction to her being stolen is irrelevant to whether or not the story is catagoriezed as NTR.


If MC is not present at all you are losing on the aspect of girl getting off on the risk of being found out.
This is not required for a story to be categorized as NTR. Only the FMC's corruption and betrayal are required.

You are missing on the lies and gaslighting that she needs to come up with.
This is not required for a story to be categorized as NTR. Only the FMC's corruption and betrayal are required.

Finally you are missing out on MC stupid reactions, cluelessness, humiliation or even excuses he comes out himself to justify girls unusual behavior.

This is not required for a story to be categorized as NTR. Only the FMC's corruption and betrayal are required.


IF all that is missing the story should be just tagged as cheating.
The exact opposite, actually. I'll prove it right now.

Let's re-imagine 'A Promise Best Left Unkept' in two ways:
A version focusing on what you say is important for an NTR story, and a version focusing on what I say is important for an NTR story.

Terix3's Version of 'A Promise Best Left Unkept':
- Laura starts getting blackmailed and having sex with Luca behind Harry's back.
- In spite of herself, she comes to find that the sex is very arousing in a dark way and starts getting off on the idea of Harry catching her in the act. Something she regrets after the sex is over.
- In order to hide her deeds from Harry, she comes up with lie after lie, causing Harry to doubt himself as he wonders about her strange behavior.
- Harry either remains oblivious, or finds out and has a meltdown.
- However, Laura is never corrupted by Luca. She never gives in to his mind games. She never doubts Harry or thinks poorly of him. Her love for him remains intact and untarnished for the entirety of the story and, at the end, she returns to him ready to continue the relationship as a faithful partner.


My Version of 'A Promise Best Left Unkept':

- Laura starts getting blackmailed and having sex with Luca behind Harry's back.
- She is never shown to get off on the idea of being caught; she just really likes the sex itself.
- She and Luca do such a good job of keeping things hidden from Harry that she never has to lie about anything. Harry notices nothing, and is suspicious of nothing.
- In fact, Harry barely ever shows up in my version of the story and is mostly only referenced in dialogue between Laura and Luca.
- Laura is initially faithful to Harry and guilt-ridden over her actions but, over time, she begins to change. Luca's influence causes her to re-evaluate her relationship with Harry. Even her love for him. The things she doesn't like about Harry become bigger in her mind while the things she used to like begin to annoy her. This goes on until, finally, she stops caring about Harry and completely falls for Luca. She then breaks up with Harry via text message and the story ends with her riding Luca's cock in ecstasy.


Do you see the differnce? Your version of the story has all the things you listed as important, but it could hardly be considered NTR since there is no corruption/betrayal. It's barely even cheating; Laura never falls so it's just blackmail and rape from beginning to end.

My version lacks everything you listed, but it still has corruption and betrayal and that's all it needs to make it NTR. It's definitely not as interesting or impactful, but it's still NTR.
 
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