VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus S2 Ep 9-11] [Hangover Cat]

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Terix3 said:
Let me guess, does not have English translation ? Does it have any relevance for the discussion about good endings?
Every their game that I've come across here was netorase and assuming you are self inserting. Not my type of games.
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sometimes they have netorase that turn more into netorare, like a bad ending
 
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NTR Sommelier said:
Translation or not. You claimed Atelier Sakura is all Netorase. That claim is wrong.
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They are known for their netorase games... that better?

Let me correct myself here too ...
Shatteredstar said:
'Light' agency is part of the genre. It's easy to point at Atelier Sakura games, but they're not irrelevant. Their games vary wildly from kinetic to two or more endings. When they have more endings on offer, normally one is a 'good' ending. Players get to see what could have been. Sometimes that comes with a lovey sex scene, but always with story details. The credits are reached quickly so the effort is minimal, but it satisfies the want of agency. I agree that normally, if at all, there are few good endings in this genre. Many times those endings are not really 'good' just the relationship between MC and MH doesn't fail immediately. Something like they are together still and most likely the next baby, after the one growing inside her is born, will be MC's.
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Are you talking about netorase or netorare games? Because I've not played any Atelier Sakura netorare game let alone one with multiple good endings.

Some people just ignore the point and focus on some inconsistency irrelevant for the discussion resident-sleeper.png
 
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i prefer my ntr like my coffee with dirty talk, suggestion and manipulation, rape is a cheap move of a script to any ntr
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ONG on the tldr

I dont know about giving up on romance altogether though that sounds a bit too harsh, ion see nun wrong with wanting to have a healthy relationship, its just luca being a massive hater cause hes (secretly gay for harry with how much his ass lives rent free in lucas mind) had a different opinion and perspective in life

Harry is a idiot but a good idiot, he doesnt deserve aya though bro was blind as hell and deaf too, couldnt recognize lauras moaning through the wall or when she was clearly lying about her having sex on the phone or webcam, or when he misunderstands laura doesn't want to be put on a pedestal, but at the same time that's just him being nice, but god damn do I DESPISE laura and sandra, more specifically Laura at worst sandra hoes herself out for luca

Laura? That bitch is female luca times a million idfc if she was never gonna be like this until luca came along, the fact its even a possibility in a future with her is insane the whole fucking

“Lets have harry believe his kids were his until they turn 20 then bombshell his ass”

to wanting harry to suffer a few years in comparison to her 1 month, when EVEN LUCA said at worst 2 weeks

domt even get me started on kissing harry at the wedding after giving luca head and having his nut in her mouth

GOD shes such a filthy bitch and desrves the worst, even in the best ending when she murders luca, she still gladly says she enjoyed the sex with luca and made Harry experience living hell to the point bro was considering double homicide suicide and for WHAT

Sure luca is dead but harry lost the promotion, suffered severe mental trauma even worse than the one during highschool, lost the respect of the team and is now seen as a creep stalker

so even if he wanted to leave to a new company ethan wont put in good word for him so hes fucked there

Dont even get me started on her begging luca to fuck her again in that 1 ending when he clearly said he was fine staying out of her life ALL BECAUSE HARRY DIDNT HAVE SEX WITH HER FOR 3 FUCKING DAYS GRAHHHHHHHH

I have never hated a character in a game as much we I have laura, much less a porn game

Like holy shit I hate luca but I LOATHE laura

harry was TOO GOOD FOR HER, she belongs to the streets

I didnt even mention collaborating with luca to get aya raped because laura knew harry would be happier with aya than her, especially during the bits where she said she’d rather harry break than with someone else, or the fact she had the audacity to say if he doesn't stop choosing aya she would start hating him, all while complaining on Luca's lap about not being able to cum just because harry was faithful to her instead of fucking aya in the Ferris wheel, the fucking bitch makes my blood boil christ almighty


Even her own MOTHER whose job is to be a literal PROSTITUTE saw luca was manipulating laura and was screaming about the fact Harry loves her, but what did laura say?

“oh yeah harry thats true but lucas dick though.” Sure luca was goading her with her mother's relationship possibly being fixed but did she forget literally everything else he did? Or was all that mattered was her sick twisted “love” for her mother that even sandra was like “ I didnt want this”, especially after cucking harry right in front of him taking lucas child and ruining the one she swore that she was doing all this fors life in the process why? “Sex innit” point is I abhor laura shes such a sly piece of shit that deserves nothing but the absolute lowest level of hell possible alongside luca of course, she always makes everything harrys problem in the same breath she says that she loves harry she calls him a weakling, in the same breath she says shes doing all this for him, cant even bare to see the possibility that he can find his happiness in someone else like aya

this has been my massive laura rant on why she's is quite literally the most annoying piece of shit person in the whole cast”

Tldr: when laura is nice, she is nice, but when Laura is corrupted shes is worse than luca arguably I bet in the second game if she does end up getting together with luca at the end she gonna reverse ntr aya with harry and then ntr harry with luca just to fuck with him, hell maybe even fucking bring sandra and maya into it as well of her own volition because “Harrys dick wasn't big enough “

damn rereading this I went a lil crazy on the rant apologies LMFAO

one last thing in terms of context

the future ending with the classic ntr reveal is technically the best ending, yes harry loses laura in the worst way possible, but hey shit, luca will probably leave harry alone now cause hes done his job, and then make laura take care of a whole child on her own becoming exactly like her mother a whoring tramp who loses the ability to think the moment theres a dick in em and harry will still be lead of the team and have the respect of everyone and now emotional support too because of the whole video thing and he no longer holds responsebility for someone elses baby which will never be as bad as learning your 2 grown children in their twenties arent yours and your wife is a slut that is a massive piece of trash,, while laura and luca lose their respect and are probably outright fired lol, frankly it can quite literally only get better from here for harry as long as luca decides he finally had enough fun and leaves harrys new lover alone, god I cannot stress enough how much i despise laura and her sick bullshit
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HAhaha, you are right about everything here, but maybe you are empathizing too much with the characters lol. We are meant to peek at, and even understand, the reasoning and motivations of the characters, but not necessarily to empathize with them. There is no question on how fucked up Laura is, but seeing her self-justifications and progressing corruption is what a lot of us are here for. The amount of hate you developed probably means that she was a well realized character.

The truth is, not many NTR stories feature heroines with as much depth. That depth is a bottomless pit of psychological issues, but it's definitely more interesting than the usual.
 
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desmosome said:
HAhaha, you are right about everything here, but maybe you are empathizing too much with the characters lol. We are meant to peek at, and even understand, the reasoning and motivations of the characters, but not necessarily to empathize with them. There is no question on how fucked up Laura is, but seeing her self-justifications and progressing corruption is what a lot of us are here for. The amount of hate you developed probably means that she was a well realized character.

The truth is, not many NTR stories feature heroines with as much depth. That depth is a bottomless pit of psychological issues, but it's definitely more interesting than the usual.
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Perfectly understandable I guess I just got too heated when seeing the bs laura does lol, Im a ntr guy myself but for some reason seeing the amount of effort put behind making a character as hatable as possible really got me going lol
 
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