VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus S2 Ep 9-11] [Hangover Cat]

[Iexist]

And what MC has to do with this, I don't know. Action and reaction are disproportional. And regarding the mafia, I suggest you watch The Godfather and you will understand my lack of empathy for this antagonist. He really irritates me when I compare him to the mobsters in this film.

You've never met people that are petty just for the fuck it? People that want to see the world burn? Spiteful fucks that are mean just because they can? Man... I ENVY whatever life you live if you think people need much of a reason to be horrible with each other... Luca, if anything, has more reasons than most to want to ruin Harry's life. They're not good reasons, obviously, he's a monster after all... but I've met enough assholes in life to honestly say that there are people out there that don't need much reasons, or sometimes any reason at all, to try to completely fuck someone's life over.

As for comparing Luca to mobsters from other forms of fictional media...

The Godfather's action takes place between 1945 to 1955, based on a quick look-up, and the realism of it is debatable at best. APBLU is meant to take place in this era, which is around 70 years later. If you think the mafia from then hasn't changed to today, you're deluding yourself. That's leaving aside the fact that mafia families were diverse in various ways and they're, at the end of the day, still criminals.

More importantly, I'm probably misunderstanding something about whatever you're trying to say. What do you mean exactly, when you say that you can't feel empathy for Luca? I ask because I'm one of the people that treats empathy and sympathy as different things, being able to empathize with someone (put myself in their shoes and understand their thinking), but not sympathize with them even after the aforementioned process. (Because I can walk a mile in another man's shoes, and I'll be a mile away and I'll have their shoes.) I can understand Luca's thinking, but I don't sympathize with it for even a second. He's a monster after all. Though in this specific case, he's also not a real person and he's delivering delicious smut to me. So eh.

 

[Chinel]

Again.
Kinkshaming is not kosher and people should stop insulting others over NTR.

Anyway. Yeah, Luca delivers smut, but why can't we see him getting fucked really rough in the ass and enslaved?

 

[Ilcoriglianese forte]

Luca isn't just a bully. He's the son of a mafia don. He's part of the mafia. He's a psychopath. He was made to shoot his own mother in the head when he was 12. Quite frankly, it's a miracle he's not MORE fucked in the head than we already see him. He's not a bully that failed to grow up, he's a monster.

His hatred of Harry isn't as random as it seems at first either. If you go through all the storylines and endings, you find out that before he started on the MC, said MC told him something that was almost word for word the same words that his mother told him right before he shot her in the head. This wasn't just random bullying. Luca utterly hates Harry because Harry triggered him with his most traumatic childhood memory. Said memory has such a strong hold on him that when talking with Laura at one point, he nearly chokes her to death because that's how much it pisses him off to remember.

Which is actually fairly normal. Childhood trauma of that kind can ruin people for life sometimes... and that's extra likely for someone like Luca who lived in less than pleasant environments with a father that only saw him as a tool.

As for winning... Well, it's a NTR plot. If realism was invoked, 99.(9)% of NTR plots wouldn't work no matter how much you squint at them. You have to turn your brain off to some degree or another to enjoy NTR... and even then, I'd say that this VN has done a way better job of the story than many others I've seen, most of which I don't even care to remember at this point.

I can agree with you about many things, I live in mafia areas and I know very well, but the story with reference to Aya is totally beyond all logic, Aya is the daughter of a Yakuza boss, from what world to the world, Luca, knowing for moreover, he would never have lived an hour after blackmailing Aya, everything in the game has its reason, its excesses, but a normal level mafioso who blackmails the daughter of a yakuza boss does not exist in any universe.

 

[Iexist]

I can agree with you about many things, I live in mafia areas and I know very well, but the story with reference to Aya is totally beyond all logic, Aya is the daughter of a Yakuza boss, from what world to the world, Luca, knowing for moreover, he would never have lived an hour after blackmailing Aya, everything in the game has its reason, its excesses, but a normal level mafioso who blackmails the daughter of a yakuza boss does not exist in any universe.

You mean the Aya Path incident? A lot of Aya's backstory wasn't revealed to us in the main APBLU story, but there are some pretty big hints there about some things. First, Aya is both afraid of her father and seems to utterly loath him. Luca easily figures out that her father is someone that Aya wants to kill, but either wasn't able too, or wasn't willing too for reasons we're not aware of at this time. Secondly, there are endings where Aya could have used her family connections, but chose not too, like the one where she, Harry and Laura run off to Canada together of all things.

We don't have the full info here, but I'm reasonably sure that Aya was trying to run away from the yakuza life. She only goes back to it when she feels that she has no choice, and the Fallen Hero - Aya edition ending hints that it's not free.

I believe the Aya Edition will shed more light on things... whether that's going to be a good light or bad light... I can't say at this time. Aya Edition has its own thread for discussion, but I'm not sticking my nose there until there's significantly more content.

Lastly. Luca's not just a regular mafia guy. He's the son of the boss, the head of the family and he's set to inherit the whole thing. He has power and authority, and that's shown quite clearly in the Fallen Hero ending. He's not just a regular mafia guy. In many ways, I'd say that Luca and Aya would be equal in terms of positions... well, in theory. In practice, I've heard that yakuza organizations are quite misogynistic, so I'm not so sure about Aya's position. And that's before we get into the fact that Aya was apparently raped by her own father and trained to be a monster in her own way... Aya's definitely a yakuza princess in origin, but it doesn't seem like she WANTS to be one if she can help it.

 

[Ilcoriglianese forte]

You mean the Aya Path incident? A lot of Aya's backstory wasn't revealed to us in the main APBLU story, but there are some pretty big hints there about some things. First, Aya is both afraid of her father and seems to utterly loath him. Luca easily figures out that her father is someone that Aya wants to kill, but either wasn't able too, or wasn't willing too for reasons we're not aware of at this time. Secondly, there are endings where Aya could have used her family connections, but chose not too, like the one where she, Harry and Laura run off to Canada together of all things.

We don't have the full info here, but I'm reasonably sure that Aya was trying to run away from the yakuza life. She only goes back to it when she feels that she has no choice, and the Fallen Hero - Aya edition ending hints that it's not free.

I believe the Aya Edition will shed more light on things... whether that's going to be a good light or bad light... I can't say at this time. Aya Edition has its own thread for discussion, but I'm not sticking my nose there until there's significantly more content.

Lastly. Luca's not just a regular mafia guy. He's the son of the boss, the head of the family and he's set to inherit the whole thing. He has power and authority, and that's shown quite clearly in the Fallen Hero ending. He's not just a regular mafia guy. In many ways, I'd say that Luca and Aya would be equal in terms of positions... well, in theory. In practice, I've heard that yakuza organizations are quite misogynistic, so I'm not so sure about Aya's position. And that's before we get into the fact that Aya was apparently raped by her own father and trained to be a monster in her own way... Aya's definitely a yakuza princess in origin, but it doesn't seem like she WANTS to be one if she can help it.

in the yakuza tradition and the rules that form it, no son of a yakuza leader can be touched or anything else, if permission is not asked from the father with the right motivation, Luca is a lesser mafioso than Aya, the world hierarchies on power are well notes, so the matter is simply easy, the creator does not know the true dynamics, and here he makes a story mistake. Trust those who know things.

 

[Wasi Fahim]

compress version??/

 

[Iskender]

Good ntr game, the most exciting part is the game Luka and Laura plays which includes corruption and mind break.

 

[Other005]

You've never met people that are petty just for the fuck it? People that want to see the world burn? Spiteful fucks that are mean just because they can? Man... I ENVY whatever life you live if you think people need much of a reason to be horrible with each other... Luca, if anything, has more reasons than most to want to ruin Harry's life. They're not good reasons, obviously, he's a monster after all... but I've met enough assholes in life to honestly say that there are people out there that don't need much reasons, or sometimes any reason at all, to try to completely fuck someone's life over.

As for comparing Luca to mobsters from other forms of fictional media...

The Godfather's action takes place between 1945 to 1955, based on a quick look-up, and the realism of it is debatable at best. APBLU is meant to take place in this era, which is around 70 years later. If you think the mafia from then hasn't changed to today, you're deluding yourself. That's leaving aside the fact that mafia families were diverse in various ways and they're, at the end of the day, still criminals.

More importantly, I'm probably misunderstanding something about whatever you're trying to say. What do you mean exactly, when you say that you can't feel empathy for Luca? I ask because I'm one of the people that treats empathy and sympathy as different things, being able to empathize with someone (put myself in their shoes and understand their thinking), but not sympathize with them even after the aforementioned process. (Because I can walk a mile in another man's shoes, and I'll be a mile away and I'll have their shoes.) I can understand Luca's thinking, but I don't sympathize with it for even a second. He's a monster after all. Though in this specific case, he's also not a real person and he's delivering delicious smut to me. So eh.

So the ending of her family discovering this so the antagonist can fuck off is missing, that would be closer to reality. But it still wouldn't lessen my hatred for this worm. When I said empathy I mean being able to put yourself in someone else's shoes, in most cases it is possible to identify with the antagonist, after all there is no reason for them to consider the mc's feelings, but in this specific case they took things far from more. If it was for revenge it would even be justified but that is not the case. I've seen petty people but I've never met anyone willing to take things that far, not even in the case of revenge, I've only seen them in films. So The Godfather you need to do some research to know that many of the things and even characters are inspired by reality.

 

[drestaprit]

I enjoyed this game, Laura felt like pretty standard NTR, and I didn't get too emotionally invested in her. The Aya stuff, especially in some of the bonus scenes was pretty special, getting emotional attached to her and then seeing her get taken away was crazy, peak NTR, my soul is suffering.

 

[Tomamax19]

How many characters are there or are involved with Luca?

 

[Racoon_4]

How many characters are there or are involved with Luca?

Two, sometimes a few flasbacks of a third one.

 

[Terox34567]

Can anyone post some images from the latest bonuses

 

[jovix]

Can someone post a full save file, thanks

 

[sergyo_ml]

Can someone post a full save file, thanks

There's a gallery unlocker in the post, I think. It worked for me, but this game deserves to be played though...

Can anyone post some images from the latest bonuses

There it is, it's very good, just play it, king.

 

[Kylie Bloodmoon]

Out of curiosity, is the main chicks husband a likeable character or is he an idiot like most boyfriends/husbands in ntr heavy games?

 

[NekoNyaKotori]

is android version completed aswell ?

 

[abirvg]

a likeable character

is he an idiot

like most boyfriends/husbands in ntr heavy games?

Now that is just a combo of vague questions, that heavily rely on your preferences.

But yeah, I would say he is maybe a little better then the average garbage MC from NTR - but not by much.
He's not really annoying in the dialogues - they can be pretty fun and thoughtful. And some girls in this threat said 'at least he's hot', so there's that. I'm not a good judge on that aspect.

But you REALLY need to keep your suspension of disbelieve in check if you want to go through this game without cringing.

Depending on what you choose: he either turns a blind eye on everything, trusting everyone unconditionally, OR - if you're suspicious - he fails to fix the problem by himself, stumbling around awkwardly.
Which is kinda understandable - else plot can't go on with the NTR stuff. But it's also can be pretty cringe.

Also he is the main contrast for the antagonist - a confidant guy with psychological games, which always work and never fail.
...At least not until the end. Plot reasons.
So keep that in mind.
He is the CONTRAST to these traits. He's there to make antagonist feel more menacing.

P.s. Also, apparently, there's a whole fanfic going on in this thread on how antagonist is obsessed with the mMC. So take it for what you will.
Maybe it'll add some flavor to your playthrough.

 

[Kylie Bloodmoon]

Now that is just a combo of vague questions, that heavily rely on your preferences.

But yeah, I would say he is maybe a little better then the average garbage MC from NTR - but not by much.
He's not really annoying in the dialogues - they can be pretty fun and thoughtful. And some girls in this threat said 'at least he's hot', so there's that. I'm not a good judge on that aspect.

But you REALLY need to keep your suspension of disbelieve in check if you want to go through this game without cringing.

Depending on what you choose: he either turns a blind eye on everything, trusting everyone unconditionally, OR - if you're suspicious - he fails to fix the problem by himself, stumbling around awkwardly.
Which is kinda understandable - else plot can't go on with the NTR stuff. But it's also can be pretty cringe.

Also he is the main contrast for the antagonist - a confidant guy with psychological games, which always work and never fail.
...At least not until the end. Plot reasons.
So keep that in mind.
He is the CONTRAST to these traits. He's there to make antagonist feel more menacing.

P.s. Also, apparently, there's a whole fanfic going on in this thread on how antagonist is obsessed with the mMC. So take it for what you will.
Maybe it'll add some flavor to your playthrough.

I appreciate it dude. You answered my question very well. Ill give it a shot.

 

[tata19]

Out of curiosity, is the main chicks husband a likeable character or is he an idiot like most boyfriends/husbands in ntr heavy games?

If the MC is not as pathetic as most of the NTR games. He's not one of those MCs who can't fuck and depending on the options you choose, he can do it quite well. It has many variants, you can take it from humiliation to being the hero.

 

[BloodForKhorne]

Now that is just a combo of vague questions, that heavily rely on your preferences.

But yeah, I would say he is maybe a little better then the average garbage MC from NTR - but not by much.
He's not really annoying in the dialogues - they can be pretty fun and thoughtful. And some girls in this threat said 'at least he's hot', so there's that. I'm not a good judge on that aspect.

But you REALLY need to keep your suspension of disbelieve in check if you want to go through this game without cringing.

Depending on what you choose: he either turns a blind eye on everything, trusting everyone unconditionally, OR - if you're suspicious - he fails to fix the problem by himself, stumbling around awkwardly.
Which is kinda understandable - else plot can't go on with the NTR stuff. But it's also can be pretty cringe.

Also he is the main contrast for the antagonist - a confidant guy with psychological games, which always work and never fail.
...At least not until the end. Plot reasons.
So keep that in mind.
He is the CONTRAST to these traits. He's there to make antagonist feel more menacing.

P.s. Also, apparently, there's a whole fanfic going on in this thread on how antagonist is obsessed with the mMC. So take it for what you will.
Maybe it'll add some flavor to your playthrough.

Ill die on the hill that Luca is a weirdo that has repressed feeling for the MC bc his actions make no sense.