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Latex224

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Hi. :)
Just curious if we have a Patreon here that could share the "Idea Submission for Bonus Scene 10, and Poll" post. :)


Very curious to read what options are/winning the poll
 
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The_Coomer

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This is sweet. I don't know what path I like best they are so fappable. Only complaint is that music, all I hear is "Man and Machine and nothing there in between"....
 

Iexist

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The conversation over the last couple of pages was some of the weirdest shit I've read in a while.

It's fascinating to see how people see this story and what impressions they get... but man, that one Soulmask dude had some really wild takes over there. Made me wonder if I'd accidentally wandered into some weird social media group on tumblr or twitter or something. The main thing I got from all that is that he thinks that all people are scum on some level, and the way to happiness is to be the biggest piece of scum possible.

Though seeing anyone claim that anything with the "netorare" label on it could be realistic made me laugh rather loudly. Which is bad, it's night over here and the walls aren't that thick.

APBLU is better than most netorare VNs in covering for the holes of the genre... but it's still a NTR VN and hardly realistic... Though I suppose guys wish it was that easy to make a woman cum buckets and that dick size was the most important thing ever and yada yada.
 

ginelofki

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looking for ntr games where the girlfriend/childhood friend and the mother and sister or at least one sibling get stolen from MC together
 

abirvg

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looking for ntr games where the girlfriend/childhood friend and the mother and sister or at least one sibling get stolen from MC together
Culture shock.
Henteria Chronicles.
Power Vacuum (but only as a joke bad endings - funny though).
A Family Venture.
 
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inye59

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Though I suppose guys wish it was that easy to make a woman cum buckets and that dick size was the most important thing ever and yada yada.
Through all the drama we had here the troll inside me whispering in my ear to say : Dick is the a the most important thing in a relationship. And how realistic this story is. :KEK:
 
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Valmond82

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Still super mad at the good ending. After waiting for so long, all we got is piss poor art. Honnestly at first I thought this was temporary drawings. Like they would come back later to replace Laura's mother gray tits and pussy or Harry looking nothing like in his face on the text window. It looked like someone made this on paint and even that is being very generous.
 

Iexist

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Still super mad at the good ending. After waiting for so long, all we got is piss poor art. Honnestly at first I thought this was temporary drawings. Like they would come back later to replace Laura's mother gray tits and pussy or Harry looking nothing like in his face on the text window. It looked like someone made this on paint and even that is being very generous.
Honestly, that's what people get when they force someone to produce something that they don't really believe in.

The Good Ending basically exists only because Patrons pressured HSelf into putting it in... but HSelf doesn't believe in Good Endings in NTR VNs, a stance that I can understand for a number of reasons. The end result of making an artist do something they're not into is never gonna be good. Even if HSelf only did the writing, he obviously didn't pay as much attention to the art as he did anywhere else.

So eh. People should be careful about what they wish for.

Though honestly, I also think HSelf should have stuck to his guns and never made this ending in the first place. While it's nice to have, in some ways, the VN might have been better if this didn't exist and more effort was put into other things.
 
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inye59

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Honestly, that's what people get when they force someone to produce something that they don't really believe in.

The Good Ending basically exists only because Patrons pressured HSelf into putting it in... but HSelf doesn't believe in Good Endings in NTR VNs, a stance that I can understand for a number of reasons. The end result of making an artist do something they're not into is never gonna be good. Even if HSelf only did the writing, he obviously didn't pay as much attention to the art as he did anywhere else.

So eh. People should be careful about what they wish for.

Though honestly, I also think HSelf should have stuck to his guns and never made this ending in the first place. While it's nice to have, in some ways, the VN might have been better if this didn't exist and more effort was put into other things.
I agree and that is something that I don't do very often.But If i had to extend something i would add that Money talks and patreons should judge his work. On the other had half or poor executed projects giving me goosebumps. I think he should chosen either stickedbin his principles or had some help if he couldn't done it properly. The people are not forgiving and that could lead to money loss and in denigration in the long run if they share the same opinion in popular platforms like Steam etc.
 
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Chinel

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The conversation over the last couple of pages was some of the weirdest shit I've read in a while.

It's fascinating to see how people see this story and what impressions they get... but man, that one Soulmask dude had some really wild takes over there. Made me wonder if I'd accidentally wandered into some weird social media group on tumblr or twitter or something. The main thing I got from all that is that he thinks that all people are scum on some level, and the way to happiness is to be the biggest piece of scum possible.

Though seeing anyone claim that anything with the "netorare" label on it could be realistic made me laugh rather loudly. Which is bad, it's night over here and the walls aren't that thick.

APBLU is better than most netorare VNs in covering for the holes of the genre... but it's still a NTR VN and hardly realistic... Though I suppose guys wish it was that easy to make a woman cum buckets and that dick size was the most important thing ever and yada yada.
It is perception of power.
I mean...if you were to speak about the following equation...

To be happy = must be rich and powerful...then arguably becoming a politician/dictator/billionarie would be truly the way to go (which implies being the biggest POS ever).

The issue? There is a phrase I heard one time.
Without power...you have nothing. You can't even protect anything you love. Problem is when you CANNOT trust others and you HAVE POWER...

For Soulmask, Harry should have struggled for POWER first before going after Laura or Aya, because then any action by Luca would be answered by his death and any betrayal by the girls would be answered by control.

The fact Luca is show as 'winner' gives to those people that perspective. If he is the winner because he is a POS, then better be a POS than being good and since the POSs rule the world...
 

Soulmask

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The problem is that yall still stuck in the "appearances" level of understanding human interactions. Humans are animals. Yes we evolved language to communicate valid information on the one hand but also to manipulate others on the other hand. And I'm not saying that's right. I hate language manipulation since I was a kid. But it's real and it happens everyday, everyone lies, for multiple reasons and sometimes no reason at all. Often, people lie naturally without thinking about it. But what is real then? Natural instincts and factual information.

However, human societies are so complex nowadays that there are multiple levels of deceptions to keep appearances. Propaganda, religion, pretending we are the good guys and can do no wrong while the other side is the bad guys and can only do evil, etc. What I'm getting at is the surface level communication we use by talking to each other often hide people's true intentions, but all of you reacting to me are still stuck in this "surface level" mode of thinking. Evolution posits that females try to get the best genes for their offspring, that's not me saying that, it's Darwin, and it's a FACT. They also try to get a man that protects them and will stay with them for multiple years, while she is pregnant and the children are small, to protect against predators and other humans. People will then reply to me "GEEZ WE STILL LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE WE AFRAID OF LIONS AND NEXT DOOR TRIBE KIDNAPPING OUR WOMEN LULUL LOOKATHISGUY" but that doesnt mean shit because we still have those INSTINCTS that havent been bred out yet because evolution doesnt work that fast. Evolution literally takes tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years to change a species more than superficially.

And I've already talked at great lengths about the game, but let's just end with this. If humans have kinks, they don't come out of nowhere. They come from the deepest recesses of our brains, where evolutionary instincts are the strongest. And this game clearly is based on those instincts. The MC didnt listen to his bitch who warned him clearly in the smoking scene just before the blackmail. And yes stockholm syndrome is real, plenty of cases of kidnapped women falling in love with kidnappers, and historical example of the "rape of the Sabines"(Where romans kidnapped Sabine women when the men were away, and when the Sabine men came to take them back, the Sabine women told them "Please don't kill our husbands!"). Obviously kidnapping is wrong and I'm not condoning it AT ALL, if you think I'm condoning it frankly it's because you're trying to MANIPULATE the conversation against me.

Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
 
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