looking for ntr games where the girlfriend/childhood friend and the mother and sister or at least one sibling get stolen from MC together
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Culture shock.
Henteria Chronicles.
Power Vacuum (but only as a joke bad endings - funny though).
A Family Venture.
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Through all the drama we had here the troll inside me whispering in my ear to say : Dick is the a the most important thing in a relationship. And how realistic this story is.
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Still super mad at the good ending. After waiting for so long, all we got is piss poor art. Honnestly at first I thought this was temporary drawings. Like they would come back later to replace Laura's mother gray tits and pussy or Harry looking nothing like in his face on the text window. It looked like someone made this on paint and even that is being very generous.
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Honestly, that's what people get when they force someone to produce something that they don't really believe in.
The Good Ending basically exists only because Patrons pressured HSelf into putting it in... but HSelf doesn't believe in Good Endings in NTR VNs, a stance that I can understand for a number of reasons. The end result of making an artist do something they're not into is never gonna be good. Even if HSelf only did the writing, he obviously didn't pay as much attention to the art as he did anywhere else.
So eh. People should be careful about what they wish for.
Though honestly, I also think HSelf should have stuck to his guns and never made this ending in the first place. While it's nice to have, in some ways, the VN might have been better if this didn't exist and more effort was put into other things.
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I agree and that is something that I don't do very often.But If i had to extend something i would add that Money talks and patreons should judge his work. On the other had half or poor executed projects giving me goosebumps. I think he should chosen either stickedbin his principles or had some help if he couldn't done it properly. The people are not forgiving and that could lead to money loss and in denigration in the long run if they share the same opinion in popular platforms like Steam etc.
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It is perception of power.
I mean...if you were to speak about the following equation...
To be happy = must be rich and powerful...then arguably becoming a politician/dictator/billionarie would be truly the way to go (which implies being the biggest POS ever).
The issue? There is a phrase I heard one time.
Without power...you have nothing. You can't even protect anything you love. Problem is when you CANNOT trust others and you HAVE POWER...
For Soulmask, Harry should have struggled for POWER first before going after Laura or Aya, because then any action by Luca would be answered by his death and any betrayal by the girls would be answered by control.
The fact Luca is show as 'winner' gives to those people that perspective. If he is the winner because he is a POS, then better be a POS than being good and since the POSs rule the world...
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The problem is that yall still stuck in the "appearances" level of understanding human interactions. Humans are animals. Yes we evolved language to communicate valid information on the one hand but also to manipulate others on the other hand. And I'm not saying that's right. I hate language manipulation since I was a kid. But it's real and it happens everyday, everyone lies, for multiple reasons and sometimes no reason at all. Often, people lie naturally without thinking about it. But what is real then? Natural instincts and factual information.
However, human societies are so complex nowadays that there are multiple levels of deceptions to keep appearances. Propaganda, religion, pretending we are the good guys and can do no wrong while the other side is the bad guys and can only do evil, etc. What I'm getting at is the surface level communication we use by talking to each other often hide people's true intentions, but all of you reacting to me are still stuck in this "surface level" mode of thinking. Evolution posits that females try to get the best genes for their offspring, that's not me saying that, it's Darwin, and it's a FACT. They also try to get a man that protects them and will stay with them for multiple years, while she is pregnant and the children are small, to protect against predators and other humans. People will then reply to me "GEEZ WE STILL LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE WE AFRAID OF LIONS AND NEXT DOOR TRIBE KIDNAPPING OUR WOMEN LULUL LOOKATHISGUY" but that doesnt mean shit because we still have those INSTINCTS that havent been bred out yet because evolution doesnt work that fast. Evolution literally takes tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years to change a species more than superficially.
And I've already talked at great lengths about the game, but let's just end with this. If humans have kinks, they don't come out of nowhere. They come from the deepest recesses of our brains, where evolutionary instincts are the strongest. And this game clearly is based on those instincts. The MC didnt listen to his bitch who warned him clearly in the smoking scene just before the blackmail. And yes stockholm syndrome is real, plenty of cases of kidnapped women falling in love with kidnappers, and historical example of the "rape of the Sabines"(Where romans kidnapped Sabine women when the men were away, and when the Sabine men came to take them back, the Sabine women told them "Please don't kill our husbands!"). Obviously kidnapping is wrong and I'm not condoning it AT ALL, if you think I'm condoning it frankly it's because you're trying to MANIPULATE the conversation against me.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
However, human societies are so complex nowadays that there are multiple levels of deceptions to keep appearances. Propaganda, religion, pretending we are the good guys and can do no wrong while the other side is the bad guys and can only do evil, etc. What I'm getting at is the surface level communication we use by talking to each other often hide people's true intentions, but all of you reacting to me are still stuck in this "surface level" mode of thinking. Evolution posits that females try to get the best genes for their offspring, that's not me saying that, it's Darwin, and it's a FACT. They also try to get a man that protects them and will stay with them for multiple years, while she is pregnant and the children are small, to protect against predators and other humans. People will then reply to me "GEEZ WE STILL LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE WE AFRAID OF LIONS AND NEXT DOOR TRIBE KIDNAPPING OUR WOMEN LULUL LOOKATHISGUY" but that doesnt mean shit because we still have those INSTINCTS that havent been bred out yet because evolution doesnt work that fast. Evolution literally takes tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years to change a species more than superficially.
And I've already talked at great lengths about the game, but let's just end with this. If humans have kinks, they don't come out of nowhere. They come from the deepest recesses of our brains, where evolutionary instincts are the strongest. And this game clearly is based on those instincts. The MC didnt listen to his bitch who warned him clearly in the smoking scene just before the blackmail. And yes stockholm syndrome is real, plenty of cases of kidnapped women falling in love with kidnappers, and historical example of the "rape of the Sabines"(Where romans kidnapped Sabine women when the men were away, and when the Sabine men came to take them back, the Sabine women told them "Please don't kill our husbands!"). Obviously kidnapping is wrong and I'm not condoning it AT ALL, if you think I'm condoning it frankly it's because you're trying to MANIPULATE the conversation against me.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
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The fact that you're using a story like "the rape of the Sabines" as proof for your convoluted thinking, while mangling the facts of the story while also ignoring the fact that it's not historically proven and that it's more myth than fact and very likely Roman propaganda... Says a LOT... You do realize that in that story, outside of one woman, every single one was supposed to be an unmarried virgin, and that when those women supposedly interfered with the conflict, it was to save their fathers and brothers as much as it was to save their new husbands? Even if you ignore how unreliable it is, or the fact that it's highly likely that it's Roman bullshit written by the victors to make themselves look better... it's hardly proof of anything.
It's definitely not proof that NTR is realistic, or that Laura's character is a realistic representation of female instincts or whatever weirdness is going on in that head of yours...
Bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, another controversial concept that's been debated all over the world, is not helping your case either. This thing has hardly been proven to exist, what cases there are have been inconsistent at best, and more than a few of those cases had less to do with weird sympathy to kidnapers and more to do with law enforcement fucking up and basically treating hostages as expendable. That's leaving aside the fact that what's happening to Laura doesn't really fall under the conditions necessary for something like that to happen...
Look, you have an... interesting take on this VN...
However, you seem to be forgetting that none of these people are real. All of them behave the way they do for the sake of enabling porn to happen. HSelf is not a holder of some kind of psychology doctorate to my knowledge, or evolutionary theory, or anything like that. Basically, there's nothing realistic in here. People like these could sort of exist, and some events in this particular direction could potentially happen if you squint and ignore the plot-holes... but you're still reading way too much into it.
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to prove here? Aside from a weird understanding of what the word "fact" means.
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Soulmask , your assertion of projection is the first manipulative tactic you’ve employed here, and it’s insulting. You are not in a position to dictate what someone thinks or understands. Let’s discuss your points about women, strong genetics, and evolution. Your knowledge in this area appears limited. Over the last 4,000 years, women didn’t always choose their spouses, and in many societies today, they still don’t have that autonomy. Historical evidence doesn’t universally support your claims. Additionally, comparing human behavior to animals oversimplifies a complex topic. Did you know that in most apes, females mate with multiple males, and it’s the males who compete to keep others away? Only in the avian world do females consistently choose their mates.
Regarding Stockholm syndrome, I presented evidence that it’s not what you’re suggesting but rather a psychological mechanism to cope with trauma. Unfortunately, you chose to ignore or dismiss it. Your lack of clarity in assessing right from wrong is concerning. Lastly, your self-victimization seems to be another manipulation technique. Remember, we don’t know you personally, and our disagreement lies solely in the exchange of ideas. Your words shape how others perceive you.
Regarding Stockholm syndrome, I presented evidence that it’s not what you’re suggesting but rather a psychological mechanism to cope with trauma. Unfortunately, you chose to ignore or dismiss it. Your lack of clarity in assessing right from wrong is concerning. Lastly, your self-victimization seems to be another manipulation technique. Remember, we don’t know you personally, and our disagreement lies solely in the exchange of ideas. Your words shape how others perceive you.
I was comparing stockholm syndrome with Laura's story, not female choice. Laura doenst have a choice. But she does sense that things might go wrong before anything happens. And Laura's descent until she finally gives in to Luca is pretty much stockholm syndrome.
Again you attacking my morals like I advocate for stockholm syndrome or something, trust me if I was some kind of god that made human beings I wouldnt have put in stockholm syndrome.
Again you attacking my morals like I advocate for stockholm syndrome or something, trust me if I was some kind of god that made human beings I wouldnt have put in stockholm syndrome.
Well I do believe that people are way more scummy than most people think. And I find it kinda tragic. Also I believe that because I've seen multiple cases of cheating from girls most people would not suspect(and guys do plenty of bad stuff too so it's not like I only blame women either)... I mean it's sad, but I still think there's genuine people out there that make happy families. I stay optimistic despite everything.