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Soulmask

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The conversation over the last couple of pages was some of the weirdest shit I've read in a while.

It's fascinating to see how people see this story and what impressions they get... but man, that one Soulmask dude had some really wild takes over there. Made me wonder if I'd accidentally wandered into some weird social media group on tumblr or twitter or something. The main thing I got from all that is that he thinks that all people are scum on some level, and the way to happiness is to be the biggest piece of scum possible.

Though seeing anyone claim that anything with the "netorare" label on it could be realistic made me laugh rather loudly. Which is bad, it's night over here and the walls aren't that thick.

APBLU is better than most netorare VNs in covering for the holes of the genre... but it's still a NTR VN and hardly realistic... Though I suppose guys wish it was that easy to make a woman cum buckets and that dick size was the most important thing ever and yada yada.
Well I do believe that people are way more scummy than most people think. And I find it kinda tragic. Also I believe that because I've seen multiple cases of cheating from girls most people would not suspect(and guys do plenty of bad stuff too so it's not like I only blame women either)... I mean it's sad, but I still think there's genuine people out there that make happy families. I stay optimistic despite everything.
 

Chinel

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TBH half of the talking points fall back on 'no, I won't expend my labor for something that is not from my blood or mine', humans/men, perhaps, only developed monogany because they didn't want to raise the kids of the ones women did choose to have the kids.

TBH I can see why. You probably hate the guy, why the hell would you raise their kids? To hell with said kids.

Hm...that is the whole 'cuck' fear really. Well, my tip is...you can die and you can destroy your own wealth and leave none for whatever cheating wife you had. All she would do is to cry at your spitefulness. Principally if it involves a house, I guess.
 

inye59

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Attacking morals? I am attacking your words and ONLY those you literaly said
Stockholm Syndrome switch because it's proven in historical texts and it makes sense on an evolutionary POV too. Rape of the Sabines, pre-colonial America, colonization, there's so many examples of this it's not even a debate honestly.
there are people out there that are traumatized that are living those traumatic eperieces that are getting abused day and night from domestic violence and they think they deserve it. To reduce that to evolution without solid proof and made unscietific statements " not even a debate honestly" is outrageous. In a strawman argument Is the same you accept marriege with children because in some societies they've done it and for centuries, and in some still.
 

Elias Zav

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Guys, please, maybe someone wrote explanations of all endings and their plot? I mean like a brief retelling of the story and all routes.

Because I really don't want to spend so much time reading this huge amount of text in a hentai game, especially since english is not my native language and I get tired of reading. But I also want to know the plot, because during the time I played I already got into the story a little bit and I became interested in how the transformation of the personages characters and the overall plot would end.
 
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Iexist

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Guys, please, maybe someone wrote explanations of all endings and their plot? I mean like a brief retelling of the story and all routes.

Because I really don't want to spend so much time reading this huge amount of text in a hentai game, especially since english is not my native language and I get tired of reading. But I also want to know the plot, because during the time I played I already got into the story a little bit and I became interested in how the transformation of the personages characters and the overall plot would end.
You want someone else to summarize the overall story and the many endings of this VN because you're too lazy to read it all? Why should anyone bother putting in the work to type all that out? Any kind of genuinely useful summary like what you want would result in a pretty massive wall of text that someone would have to type out. Pretty sure most people have better things to do with their time.

Oh well. I wish you luck finding someone with nothing better to do with their time I guess. Even if I don't get what kind of enjoyment you can get out of something like this. Especially since this is a VN, you can just read it over multiple sittings over an extended period of time. It's not going anywhere after all. It also doesn't matter if you read it in a day or read it over a whole month or something...
 

abirvg

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Guys, please, maybe someone wrote explanations of all endings and their plot? I mean like a brief retelling of the story and all routes.

Because I really don't want to spend so much time reading this huge amount of text in a hentai game, especially since english is not my native language and I get tired of reading. But I also want to know the plot, because during the time I played I already got into the story a little bit and I became interested in how the transformation of the personages characters and the overall plot would end.
Just skim through it.
No need to read every single word. Just through visuals you'll get the gist of what characters are going through.

I myself didn't play through all the endings - cos the more I play, the more unpleasant it is to be around Laura.
But the story is well crafted - one of the best on this site. So I'd still recommend it.
Especially if you're already interested.
 

Elias Zav

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You want someone else to summarize the overall story and the many endings of this VN because you're too lazy to read it all? Why should anyone bother putting in the work to type all that out? Any kind of genuinely useful summary like what you want would result in a pretty massive wall of text that someone would have to type out. Pretty sure most people have better things to do with their time.

Oh well. I wish you luck finding someone with nothing better to do with their time I guess. Even if I don't get what kind of enjoyment you can get out of something like this. Especially since this is a VN, you can just read it over multiple sittings over an extended period of time. It's not going anywhere after all. It also doesn't matter if you read it in a day or read it over a whole month or something...
Bruh... I didn’t expect that there would be any strange complaints against me.

Firstly, I meant that maybe someone has ALREADY written a digest of the entire game, which is quite possible, and I asked if anyone had written it.

Secondly, even if someone wanted to answer me, I am sure that a brief description of the plot would not take several hours, but roughly ~30 minutes, which isn't a lot. Considering you already spend a lot of time discussing the game and its plot. And honestly the fact of going through such a large hentai novel with a high probability indicates that you really have enough time. Nevertheless, a plot summary is a really useful thing to do, as I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in the story but too lazy to go through the whole game (really I spend 5! hours just to get first sex scene with Luka and Laura), and someone writing such a digest would do a great thing. Yes, a large number of people won't appreciate it as it's a pretty specific jenre of entertaining, although a wiki page likeness would be marvellous.

But again, I didn't expect someone to write me all the routes of the story in as much detail as possible, I just hoped that there was already some super brief description that could be written even in the modest ~20 minutes.

In general, I’m not forcing anyone, I just asked. It would be kinder if you wrote to me, at least just ignore it, not reproach.
 

Elias Zav

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Just skim through it.
No need to read every single word. Just through visuals you'll get the gist of what characters are going through.

I myself didn't play through all the endings - cos the more I play, the more unpleasant it is to be around Laura.
But the story is well crafted - one of the best on this site. So I'd still recommend it.
Especially if you're already interested.
So it's a point that it's hard to go through the game and see all the endings even skipping all the text (not to mention the fact that I'll barely understand a damn thing). And I'm always very curious in games with different ways to know all the options.

But in general thanks for the answer, because the previous commenter made me feel awkward, as if I asked about something wild.
 
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inye59

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So it's a point that it's hard to go through the game and see all the endings even skipping all the text (not to mention the fact that I'll barely understand a damn thing). And I'm always very curious in games with different ways to know all the options.

But in general thanks for the answer, because the previous commenter made me feel awkward, as if I asked about something wild.
There is nothing to feel bad man you just asked. I would answer but I hadn't finished the game either. I am fun of the writer as he made some marvellous works before. But that game lucks the aspects that i enjoyed. So I dropped it. Maybe i will continue it if I find sometime in the future.
 
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Chinel

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Well I do believe that people are way more scummy than most people think. And I find it kinda tragic. Also I believe that because I've seen multiple cases of cheating from girls most people would not suspect(and guys do plenty of bad stuff too so it's not like I only blame women either)... I mean it's sad, but I still think there's genuine people out there that make happy families. I stay optimistic despite everything.
If you were to ask me, my only gripe with your arguments is that you mention evolutionary tendencies...but you also put them as hard facts that can't be changed. Sure, a man a girl finds 'attractive' could be a 'he is good genes' in a deeper, genetic level...or so her brain chemistry poses.

The problem? That all hinges on genes carried from thousands of years in the past and miss technology.

Look, we humans managed to clone people, we know we can edit genes. That does posit an issue for your explanation of 'facts'. Honestly all what you can say is 'those are facts until we change Human DNA.'
 

inye59

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If you were to ask me, my only gripe with your arguments is that you mention evolutionary tendencies...but you also put them as hard facts that can't be changed. Sure, a man a girl finds 'attractive' could be a 'he is good genes' in a deeper, genetic level...or so her brain chemistry poses.

The problem? That all hinges on genes carried from thousands of years in the past and miss technology.

Look, we humans managed to clone people, we know we can edit genes. That does posit an issue for your explanation of 'facts'. Honestly all what you can say is 'those are facts until we change Human DNA.'
You know what is funny that the males has obsession with the genes not females i don't known who started that but is totally wrong. In almost all mammal kingdom the female sleep around the males compete all the time.. You know another gene fun fact. That the genes that are going to extinct are that that mammals tent to prefer. All that argument is totally wrong. Is self-affirmation argument. Don't try to make someone understand you can't.
 

Chinel

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You know what is funny that the males has obsession with the genes not females i don't known who started that but is totally wrong. In almost all mammal kingdom the female sleep around the males compete all the time...
That is nature. Genetic Engineering is looking nature/natural evolution in the eye and saying "Nah miss, we DEFINE 'evolution' now, God is dead and Human is now a God." You don't even need to see whether females choose X or Y. All what matters is what she will carry. If it is an fertilized ovulum with a proper set of genes (that MIIIIGHT define a person...MIGHT), who cares if males are competing for females or not?

You can as well reshape things so, dunno, male libido is lower so a greater preference for artificial development of new generations becomes more likely. Or make that females have higher chances (HIGHER CHANCES, possibility, that is what genetics will define) of prefering a certain type of male...anything is possible!

It is just bad for 'nature' types, but those people are in the way of progress.

You know another gene fun fact. That the genes that are going to extinct are that that mammals tent to prefer. All that argument is totally wrong. Is self-affirmation argument. Don't try to make someone understand you can't.
That depends. Evolution's postulate is mainly about 'which genes get to be passed forward' as far as natural pressure goes (which...fails as humans control their enviroment...), for our redpill friend, the argument would be 'well, women prefer Alphas? Why don't you look into genetic engineering? What about crafting a new humanity where Alphas do not exist? I mean, at that point you are playing God, none is above that.'

My issue is, they never consider how many people want to reshape human DNA and create something new. All arguments above evolution. None consider the future possibility of artificial make ups.
 

inye59

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That is nature. Genetic Engineering is looking nature/natural evolution in the eye and saying "Nah miss, we DEFINE 'evolution' now, God is dead and Human is now a God." You don't even need to see whether females choose X or Y. All what matters is what she will carry. If it is an fertilized ovulum with a proper set of genes (that MIIIIGHT define a person...MIGHT), who cares if males are competing for females or not?

You can as well reshape things so, dunno, male libido is lower so a greater preference for artificial development of new generations becomes more likely. Or make that females have higher chances (HIGHER CHANCES, possibility, that is what genetics will define) of prefering a certain type of male...anything is possible!

It is just bad for 'nature' types, but those people are in the way of progress.



That depends. Evolution's postulate is mainly about 'which genes get to be passed forward' as far as natural pressure goes (which...fails as humans control their enviroment...), for our redpill friend, the argument would be 'well, women prefer Alphas? Why don't you look into genetic engineering? What about crafting a new humanity where Alphas do not exist? I mean, at that point you are playing God, none is above that.'

My issue is, they never consider how many people want to reshape human DNA and create something new. All arguments above evolution. None consider the future possibility of artificial make ups.
Genetic engineering in humans is an interesting topic and But in many aspects it reminds eugenics and that is a sensitive topic. Also that is why we are making so little progress in that science. Iwas referring more to a combination of negative frequency - dependent selection and dynamics of population (for those that knows the topic) sure there is natural selection and social structures etc the overall gene make up of the population etc
 
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