seraph85

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No.
You don't play as any of them. You just read from Harry's and Laura's perspective.
The trick is not to self insert, but be an neutral observer. Like when you watch a nature documentary.
It's not really a matter of self inserting, its just empathy. But if the MC had it coming or is just unlikeable then you really dont feel bad for em.
 

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It's not really a matter of self inserting, its just empathy. But if the MC had it coming or is just unlikeable then you really dont feel bad for em.
So skip this one, Harry (cuck) is humiliated and destroyed most of the time for being a good person, and the “villains” get away with it in all the endings, I think. I didn't do everything, some endings are garbage.
 

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So skip this one, Harry (cuck) is humiliated and destroyed most of the time for being a good person, and the “villains” get away with it in all the endings, I think. I didn't do everything, some endings are garbage.
Thanks for the heads up!
 

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No offense taken, I don't remember much, but I'm sure it wasn't “several,” it was just the two worst ones, which seems like a joke.
Well the injustice is part of the kink and Luca gets killed a couple of times, for a NTR villain that's a lot.
 
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Not a NTR enjoyer, but I do like blackmail and moral degeneration. When I played this years ago, my first thought was how nice would it be to have a Luca perspective, now there's Aya's perspective and that gives me hope.
 

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Not a NTR enjoyer however I'm a veteran Manhua/Manhwa reader. You just turn off your brain and let your joe stand tall then enjoy the show.
 
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Hehe this is some hardcore shit it seems, judging by the comments on the last 10 pages. I read them with joy. I didn't even play the game properly. I just jumped straight to the scenes. The conference scene is alright. Then I decided to try one of the endings, the "abrupt" one, and man, even without playing the rest of the game the ending felt hardcore I couldn't even finish it. People who are able to play through it all are legends.
 
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Btw do I get it right that Laura becomes sexually addicted to the bull and uninterested in the MC regardless of the route?
 
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No, a lot of routes matter. At least in this aspect.
I just read in some of the reviews that Laura betrayed the MC "on so many levels" (quote) and also lots of outright hatred to her so I thought that she ended up betraying him emotionally, sexuall and morally and doing some nasty things to him, but in some of the routes she changed her mind in the end and either kills the bully or abandons him.
 
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I just read in some of the reviews that Laura betrayed the MC "on so many levels" (quote) and also lots of outright hatred to her so I thought that she ends up betraying him emotionally, sexuall and morally and doing some nasty things to him, but in some of the routes she changes her mind in the end and either kills the bully or abondons him.
In highschool Harry told Luca that he will never find true love so out of spit Luca went after Harry childhood friend and that's way he is stealing Laura or Laura and Aya or Laura Sandra and an unnamed woman from Harry based on the route, one of the route were Luca loses is a Clifthanger ending thats a shorter version of 2 other route were Harry ends up with both Aya and Laura. One route ends with Harry planning on killing Luca as for the routes that shows Luca losing one has Luca leaving after Harry proposed to Laura because both of them were creeping him out to much. A other ending has Laura killing him. 2 endings have Aya killing Luca. and 2 endings have Luca going on the run from criminals bigger then him and Harry ends up in a relationship with both Aya and Laura. Luca loses in 7 endings and Luca wins in 4 endings Luca also loses in one cliffhanger ending. And the ending were Harry is planing on killing Luca is left ambiguous on who wins in that ending. Also in the main Canon Laura Is the hardest woman for him to corrupt as it takes him more then a mouth to corrupt her while most other women takes a less then a day to a day for him to corrupt
 
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In highschool Harry told Luca that he will never find true love so out of spit Luca went after Harry childhood friend and that's way he is stealing Laura or Laura and Aya or Laura Sandra and an unnamed woman from Harry based on the route, one of the route were Luca loses is a Clifthanger ending thats a shorter version of 2 other route were Harry ends up with both Aya and Laura. One route ends with Harry planning on killing Luca as for the routes that shows Luca losing one has Luca leaving after Harry proposed to Laura because both of them were creeping him out to much. A other ending has Laura killing him. 2 endings have Aya killing Luca. and 2 endings have Luca going on the run from criminals bigger then him and Harry ends up in a relationship with both Aya and Laura. Luca loses in 7 endings and Luca wins in 4 endings Luca also loses in one cliffhanger ending. And the ending were Harry is planing on killing Luca is left ambiguous on who wins in that ending. Also in the main Canon Laura Is the hardest woman for him to corrupt as it takes him more then a mouth to corrupt her while most other women takes a less then a day to a day for him to corrupt
I read that there are many endings where Aya helps the MC to get revenge on Luca and Laura. Why would he want to get revenge on Laura? Didn't she go along with Luca's blackmailing to protect the MC's career?
 

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In highschool Harry told Luca that he will never find true love so out of spit Luca went after Harry childhood friend and that's way he is stealing Laura or Laura and Aya or Laura Sandra and an unnamed woman from Harry based on the route, one of the route were Luca loses is a Clifthanger ending thats a shorter version of 2 other route were Harry ends up with both Aya and Laura. One route ends with Harry planning on killing Luca as for the routes that shows Luca losing one has Luca leaving after Harry proposed to Laura because both of them were creeping him out to much. A other ending has Laura killing him. 2 endings have Aya killing Luca. and 2 endings have Luca going on the run from criminals bigger then him and Harry ends up in a relationship with both Aya and Laura. Luca loses in 7 endings and Luca wins in 4 endings Luca also loses in one cliffhanger ending. And the ending were Harry is planing on killing Luca is left ambiguous on who wins in that ending. Also in the main Canon Laura Is the hardest woman for him to corrupt as it takes him more then a mouth to corrupt her while most other women takes a less then a day to a day for him to corrupt
btw, most of these endings are total garbage, while 1 or 2 are well written, which is very frustrating.
 
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I read that there are many endings where Aya helps the MC to get revenge on Luca and Laura. Why would he want to get revenge on Laura? Didn't she go along with Luca's blackmailing to protect the MC's career?
The reason that Aya is like that is because she wants Harry for herself and is helping Luca to corrupt Laura. Some routes have Aya betraying Luca 2 were Aya kills Luca witch are the ones were she Frames Laura for murder and one where she sells Laura to be a sex slave while lying to Harry about what happened. And the other routes were Aya betrays Luca are the 2 where Harry ends up in a relationship with both Aya and Laura while Luca is forced to go on the run from criminals that are bigger than him, and a shorter version of those 2 that ends on a Clifthanger
 
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Finished first playthrough with the abrupt ending on limited perspective and did some other endings with total perspective. This game is peak. I had some interest in this typa shit, listening to beegeewanders audios, but this game does it so naturally yet so perfectly exaggerated that it kinda blew my mind. The emotional pain twists and twists itself into an exhilarating tension no other vn has come close to touching. Im able to identify with all of the characters through their own twisted view of themselves and the resulting cognitive dissonance. The power play is so satisfying, and I love aya's role as grounding so you dont get lost in the devastation.
 
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