RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.9.6] [Chyos]

[harem.king]

So I made it about 13 hours in this thing just playing the game without cheats. Did pretty well, but now I'm just realize I totally fucked up a decision about two and a half hours ago in a character's route that I jumped away from to finish something time senstive, and of course I don't have saves that old. So now I have to start over if I want to fix things.

Thank god for the cheating option. Definitely not starting over the grind from ground zero. The author was very wise to include it as an option.

Great game, really enjoying it. Unfortunately, it was the unclear wording of the guide on the OP that boned me. Ah well. On a somewhat related note (this isn't what caused my restart), I really wish the guide was more explicitly specific on the Emily-Mira harem setup. Point 9 in the Emily section is a real doozy:

"9. Continue sleeping with her. At some point she will ask you what this is the two of you two are doing. Choose if you want a relationship or just fun. If you already completed Mira's ritual in the sanctum the relationship option for Emily isn't available. On the other hand, If you do Emily's route before Mira and choose to have a relationship with her she will later tell Mira about this and you start a dual relationship/Harem."

How far in Emily's route before how far in Mira's route? All of it? Emily's route includes marriage. When is Emily supposed to tell Mira about your relationship to start the harem? Are you supposed to hold off on Mira's quests entirely before that point? But you need to progress til her church initiation to even continue Emily's questline. Are there affection/corruption requirements/limitations? Just... So very unclear... lol

On another unrelated note, I really appreciate how much content this game has for those of us who tend to avoid NTR, while still providing logical paths into those routes as a result of failure/apathy/cruelty/whatever. Game really does seem to have something for everyone. I have NTR turned on, technically, incase my morbid curiosity ever gets the better of me, but I will likely never see any of that content in any of my time playing this. There's something about those routes existing that makes avoiding them feel somehow more rewarding.

I highly recommend you do start keeping saves. a new save every hour or so.
Restarting from scratch every time you make a mistake or a bug happens or something because you didn't bother to keep saves is going to be very painful.

Also you should be aware that the setting switch for NTR only affect change points. Not current state.
That is, if you are about to reach a point where Penny gets NTRed, the switch can prevent it from happening.
BUT, if it did already happen then turning the setting off will not undo it and she will still continue that NTR relationship even with the switch being on off

 

[mario01]

save ntr?

 

[Lukee1234]

save ntr?

Pro tip: check the first post on the first page

 

[zARRR]

save ntr?

Dude you are asking for them when it they are actually under your nose, in the OP… are you the kinda of guy that asks where is the sea on an island?

 

[DZ666]

I hate to harp on the question, given that changes are coming, but what is the correct order of events in the current implementation of the game for the Emily-Mira Harem? I've seen that you're supposed to follow Emily's content to the end first, but you *can't* unless you start Mira's church initiation. I also can't imagine you're supposed to go through with marrying Emily before you even kiss Mira.. I just don't get it.

 

[zARRR]

I hate to harp on the question, given that changes are coming, but what is the correct order of events in the current implementation of the game for the Emily-Mira Harem? I've seen that you're supposed to follow Emily's content to the end first, but you *can't* unless you start Mira's church initiation. I also can't imagine you're supposed to go through with marrying Emily before you even kiss Mira.. I just don't get it.

You can kiss Mira, and have sex with her but you lose the harem at home run when you finish the ritual quest and you haven’t gotten Emily’s love route first.
So it should go like this:
- Save Emily from Giron and receive the blessing
- Save Mira from the ritual
Done

 

[DZ666]

You can kiss Mira, and have sex with her but you lose the harem at home run when you finish the ritual quest and you haven’t gotten Emily’s love route first.
So it should go like this:
- Save Emily from Giron and receive the blessing
- Save Mira from the ritual
Done

Ah, so rushing Mira affection and getting her to have sex with you as soon as the church route starts (so it's done before the ritual) doesn't hurt anything if you haven't gotten the blessing for Emily prior to setting up the Orphanage? I can just hold off on rescuing Mira until after the butt stuff scene with Emily after the blessing... Good to know. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you said.

Thanks for the clarification.

That is such a goddamned weird implementation.

 

[zARRR]

Ah, so rushing Mira affection and getting her to have sex with you as soon as the church route starts (so it's done before the ritual) doesn't hurt anything if you haven't gotten the blessing for Emily prior to setting up the Orphanage? I can just hold off on rescuing Mira until after the butt stuff scene with Emily after the blessing... Good to know. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you said.

Thanks for the clarification.

That is such a goddamned weird implementation.

They are the leftovers of Chyos weird/amateurish first update behavior.

In the original updates, there was no ritual and no drama about the harem path, you were supposed to finish all of the content the game offered without no restraint, this included banging Mira or Emily without a chronological order.
This can also be seen in the house renovation path that is linked to Emily’s questline.
Basically Chyos suffers from continuation and railroad problems in the early game (At some point he stopped tho as you can see in the newer updates there is no need to fuck characters chronologically or railroaded to their questline)

 

[DZ666]

They are the leftovers of Chyos weird/amateurish first update behavior.

In the original updates, there was no ritual and no drama about the harem path, you were supposed to finish all of the content the game offered without no restraint, this included banging Mira or Emily without a chronological order.
This can also be seen in the house renovation path that is linked to Emily’s questline.
Basically Chyos suffers from continuation and railroad problems in the early game (At some point he stopped tho as you can see in the newer updates there is no need to fuck characters chronologically or railroaded to their questline)

Well, I'm glad the Emily-Mira harem bit seems to be the exception rather than the rule, then. The game really is quite awesome despite its stumbling blocks. I honestly skipped it way back when because it had a NTR tag at all, but I'm glad I came back and gave it a chance. I swear the site needs an "avoidable NTR" tag. I look forward to seeing how the game develops. This and The Last Sovereign seem to be the best H RPGM titles out there (in my opinion, of course), and they scratch two entirely different itches.

 

[zARRR]

Well, I'm glad the Emily-Mira harem bit seems to be the exception rather than the rule, then. The game really is quite awesome despite its stumbling blocks. I honestly skipped it way back when because it had a NTR tag at all, but I'm glad I came back and gave it a chance. I swear the site needs an "avoidable NTR" tag. I look forward to seeing how the game develops. This and The Last Sovereign seem to be the best H RPGM titles out there (in my opinion, of course), and they scratch two entirely different itches.

Well the best because there aren’t many contenders aside from Peasant quest and Renryuu Ascension, they are like the four big western RPGs everyone look upon on F95

And the NTR avoidable is going to appear in the tags (…eventually)

What are the others stumbling obstacles you have found?
Go rough, do tell, I take feedback for the dev

 

[Bahamut Zero]

Hi guys i fell a bit confused. I just found a Mysterous egg? in the forest where is the structure to hunt.
What hare this Mysterious egg? The MC say i can perhaps find more. But what are they for?

Edit# now i have 12 egg. And i see that i can use this Mysterious egg on a statue in the forest. But nothing happen.
Someone know how many egg i need? And why i start to find this game only now?

Edit#2
Ok, i do not know how many ppl know about this. Because i search and i see that some ppl write about this egg. This happen on in april in game or april in real world. Is an event as i understand. Every 21 egg, this statue in the forest, give you a Fairies equipment.
With 105 egg the statue give me:
Armor = Fairies Helmet, Fairies Armor, Fairies gloves, Fairies boots. Every piece are much stronger then the leather armor set. Give bonus on a lot of status.
Weapon = Fairies Bow (attack 23, agility 2, Luky 1,) surelly better then the normal boy attack 3
If you save before give the egg, you can obtein every piece with 2 slots!

After the 105 egg if you find other 21 eggs, the statue give only 5 coin puch. I think there is no more equipment

I just do not understand why this info is not in the walkthrough.
Sad that there is no ring or sword o dagger

 

[jasonqsmith]

Thinking about giving this a play through. Few questions, I see an "incest" tag. Is the MCs mother in the game can you, romance her? Fuck her? Ect?

Thanks

 

[HentaiKami]

Thinking about giving this a play through. Few questions, I see an "incest" tag. Is the MCs mother in the game can you, romance her? Fuck her? Ect?

Thanks

Status of mother is unknown, you can bang your half-sister and there's few mother daughter threesomes.

 

[Matiur13]

Thinking about giving this a play through. Few questions, I see an "incest" tag. Is the MCs mother in the game can you, romance her? Fuck her? Ect?

Thanks

There is a in-game option (a letter) to make your protector/adoptive father your actual father and his daughter your step-sister.

There are a few mother-daughter-MC threesomes. And some fanmade daughter-dad sex.

 

[HuN7eR]

I'm on the Syfa path, took all 3 virginities and agatha love path, but the ritual wont trigger. I talked with the demon multiple days, slept, even left the monastery and returned. Either I'm missing something, or it bugged. Any ideas?

 

[Bahamut Zero]

Guys there is better plates? I now can forge copper plates to add to the armor, there is some better plates?
Because i do not wanna lost the 2 slot using the low plates.
Can someone tell me which plates are the best? And how i do better plates if there is?

Thank you

 

[XSelLint]

Guys there is better plates? I now can forge copper plates to add to the armor, there is some better plates?
Because i do not wanna lost the 2 slot using the low plates.
Can someone tell me which plates are the best? And how i do better plates if there is?

Thank you

Yes, Iron Plates currently as of now(5.5.0). You need to have the King's Visit of Arenfield and bring some Iron Ore from the Mine to John, then get the Mine Reopen. After that, he will teach you how to work with Iron so you can get Iron Plate. Something like that.

 

[Matiur13]

I'm on the Syfa path, took all 3 virginities and agatha love path, but the ritual wont trigger. I talked with the demon multiple days, slept, even left the monastery and returned. Either I'm missing something, or it bugged. Any ideas?

You have to accuse someone to be the killer in the Murder Case, with circunstantial evidence.
If you reach the end of Heather Route you can say the killer escaped.

 

[Happiest69]

Compress version?

 

[Mikey Mike]

Is there better armor than Orc armor available to the MC at this time?