RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.9.6] [Chyos]

[The_Dark_Army]

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Which choice is best here ?

 

[Apartment817]

Ah yeah, that's where the story already was... five years ago?

And the game still hasn't moved on from the starting area.

There have been 84 updates in that five years. You can get a meal, and a warm bed in at least 9 locations, three bases outside of Arenfield. (I am counting the Old Boar, Rumah and your camp). Numerous other beds you can just go sleep in without any cost, more where the only cost is sex first.

It's wrong headed to act like updates haven't been made, or that places in the map haven't opened up.

 

[Apartment817]

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Which choice is best here ?

Seeing that you, like me have cheated up to level 99, it really doesn't make a difference, at all.

Lately on my play throughs I kill him there to clear out quest. But if you were playing the grindy way, witchcraft is best because you can get him to have the orcs not to attack you and other help on your way through the orc camps.

 

[storm1051787]

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I meant incest with his mom ( yeah I'm a degenerate ).
I really hope atleast one of the MC's parents' are alive.

We're not going to have incest with the mom due to patreon rules. It's the whole reason why Mira has the whole letter thing instead of just making her the sister outright. The best we can really do is something similar to that and the character isn't always going to be your mom

 

[storm1051787]

I've seen people in the Discord put out different ideas on what Chyos's intentions were, but I never asked him myself, so not sure. Honestly, never mattered to me because both routes make sense as canon, which is how it should be. I can't overstate how many devs fuck that up and make only one interpretation make sense; or even worse, make both not make much sense while trying to accommodate both.

If you want to treat the default relations as the real canon, go for it, as it doesn't matter much to me. Just don't expect a father (or any family, for that matter) to show up down the line.

Chyos did say way way back like very early into the development of the game(like the first year) that they did plan for the game to be an incest game and that they eventually wanted to introduce the MC's bio-mom. But I don't think that's likely to happen now since they've gone back on that and said that they need to keep the main story in accordance to patreons rules. Another situation with the letter is probably the best we can get.

 

[FinalZero]

i need some help v5.9.5 i use old save 5.9.0 and now all animetion is slow and i check the FPS is only 2 or 3 fps too slow to load animetion when has sex all slow too far

 

[Mr. Jekyll/Hyde]

Chyos did say way way back like very early into the development of the game(like the first year) that they did plan for the game to be an incest game and that they eventually wanted to introduce the MC's bio-mom. But I don't think that's likely to happen now since they've gone back on that and said that they need to keep the main story in accordance to patreons rules. Another situation with the letter is probably the best we can get.

You seem knowledgeable on the subject so I would like to ask for your opinion. Hypothetically if the Chyos made a incest patch but, only housed and mentioned it on sites like this would that allow them to entertain their original vision for the game while not threatening their establishment on Patreon?

Note: I would like to mention that I'm not saying this is something that they should do. I only desire to discuss it's possibility and potential effects. Since I have seen other creators do something similar if not the same as I've mentioned with seemingly no adverse effects to their standing on Patreon.

 

[Ottoeight]

Dudes, honestly, I've had enough of these incest delusions of yours.

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you will never meet MC's mother, even if she were alive

Reason why you will never meet her: we have so many unfinished quests and unfinished storylines and unvisited places that we should wait for 10 years before Chyos properly introduced her (IF she were alive).

Wanna see a MC banging his mom? you have THOUSANDS of games with an incest tag. Go, grab them and stop quarrelling over something that's never gonna happen.

 

[Webleten]

I think it should be done like this. She's the MC's mother no matter what. But in order to get any "content" with her you'll need to unlock it with some secret step or a patch.

 

[ximon]

good

 

[wizardcock]

Dudes, honestly, I've had enough of these incest delusions of yours.

S T O P I T

you will never meet MC's mother, even if she were alive

Reason why you will never meet her: we have so many unfinished quests and unfinished storylines and unvisited places that we should wait for 10 years before Chyos properly introduced her (IF she were alive).

Wanna see a MC banging his mom? you have THOUSANDS of games with an incest tag. Go, grab them and stop quarrelling over something that's never gonna happen.

Moreover we have Kirlik, Parakis, Varron, their neighborhoods, there is an island in the south. Visiting all these places excites me much more than having sex with mother.

 

[Chii]

Does anyone know by heart (or perhaps it's been compiled somewhere) all of the December related "easter eggs"/changes that can be found throughout the game?
Things like the special tree near Corven's tent, katie's special costume or Emily's house decorations.

 

[Apartment817]

Does anyone know by heart (or perhaps it's been compiled somewhere) all of the December related "easter eggs"/changes that can be found throughout the game?
Things like the special tree near Corven's tent, katie's special costume or Emily's house decorations.

There is a major one in Rumah, probably the lengthiest to date. You get it from Nyra, I think she has to be your wanita.

There are two tree things, one is getting a tree for your house, once you place it Athia will ask for money to decorate. I think that tree is pretty close to Corven, but I am guessing the tree you mentioned is the one that brings out Krampus if you cut it down.

I think patrons have access, or are just about to get access to a new winterhowl scene.

 

[storm1051787]

Dudes, honestly, I've had enough of these incest delusions of yours.

S T O P I T

you will never meet MC's mother, even if she were alive

Reason why you will never meet her: we have so many unfinished quests and unfinished storylines and unvisited places that we should wait for 10 years before Chyos properly introduced her (IF she were alive).

Wanna see a MC banging his mom? you have THOUSANDS of games with an incest tag. Go, grab them and stop quarrelling over something that's never gonna happen.

Moreover we have Kirlik, Parakis, Varron, their neighborhoods, there is an island in the south. Visiting all these places excites me much more than having sex with mother.

I personally think it's unlikely to happen due to patreon but it's not as far fetched as your making it out to be. They mentioned in Mira's storyline that we can find clues about the players mother in Kiliric, it's not like she's going to randomly pop up at the village one day. And the identify of the player's mother IS a storyline that we've had teased for years and had not done anything with. It's one the same level as the cult. It's fine if it's not something your interested in, but it's also not something that people on this forum just invented because they wanted to see it happen. It's legitimately something the Dev previously had plans for and hasn't done much with in the past few years. And it wouldn't take precedence over adding a new location. If they did add the players mom it would most likely be DURING the Kiliric update or sometime after that. We've repeatedly got new npcs when new locations were added to the game.

You seem knowledgeable on the subject so I would like to ask for your opinion. Hypothetically if the Chyos made a incest patch but, only housed and mentioned it on sites like this would that allow them to entertain their original vision for the game while not threatening their establishment on Patreon?

Note: I would like to mention that I'm not saying this is something that they should do. I only desire to discuss it's possibility and potential effects. Since I have seen other creators do something similar if not the same as I've mentioned with seemingly no adverse effects to their standing on Patreon.

Mira's letter is the incest patch. Changing the relationship actives the variables that allow for incest, that's why it's not just Mira and the Mc's relationship that changes when you turn it on, but it also changes the identity of Frisha's father so that she's Giron's bastard. I think the way it is now is fine, it's probably one of the few games on this site where the story still makes sense whether the incest is turned on or not. Making a patch is just extra steps and probably wouldn't effect how Chyos writes their story.

 

[Chii]

but it also changes the identity of Frisha's father so that she's Giron's bastard.

Do you have a source for this?
I've changed the letter in the past and I never once saw Emily saying anything else other than Frisha's being the daughter of a merchant. Nor Frisha changing her dialogue when talking about sex before marriage in her questline while talking to Giron's son.

 

[Chii]

Never mind, it's been mentioned a few times in this thread already.
That said it's still weird, and it doesn't really make nearly as much sense story wise considering Emily's attitude towards her daughters love interests.

 

[storm1051787]

Do you have a source for this?
I've changed the letter in the past and I never once saw Emily saying anything else other than Frisha's being the daughter of a merchant. Nor Frisha changing her dialogue when talking about sex before marriage in her questline while talking to Giron's son.

Emily, literally tells you herself at some point after you sleep with her. It also changes in the relationship so that Giron took her virginity instead of the merchant. I'm not going to go look through all my older saves to try to get it to trigger again but I can show you that the relationship changed. I'm pretty sure it's just random dialogue that can show up one night after you get far enough in Frisha's, Mira's and Emily's stories.


I just saw your reply as I'm trying this, but Emily says something about how she didn't approve of Frisha seeing Dave for that reason. I can't remember the exact dialogue but I think it was something along the lines of her being afraid to reveal the identity and hoping that Dave would dump her before it got that far. I don't get how it doesn't make much sense

 

[Chii]

Emily, literally tells you herself at some point after you sleep with her. It also changes in the relationship so that Giron took her virginity instead of the merchant. I'm not going to go look through all my older saves to try to get it to trigger again but I can show you that the relationship changed. I'm pretty sure it's just random dialogue that can show up one night after you get far enough in Frisha's, Mira's and Emily's stories.


I just saw your reply as I'm trying this, but Emily says something about how she didn't approve of Frisha seeing Dave for that reason. I can't remember the exact dialogue but I think it was something along the lines of her being afraid to reveal the identity and hoping that Dave would dump her before it got that far. I don't get how it doesn't make much sense

Thank you for the reply.
I should at some point explore Emily's darker route/past.

 

[The_Dark_Army]

A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.9.6] [Chyos] CHEAT MOD (Kind of)

*NOTES:
-Using this MOD may change the game experience the developer has intended for you.
-Make sure to have a backup of the original game files in case you want to revert.
-I have disabled some graphical features such as weather, fog, shadow and lighting permenantly to stop the game from lagging because my PC is old.

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[packor]

seems neat. Where's the breast size changer?