RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.0a] [Chyos]

[storm1051787]

Is the Swinging/ntr avoidable/optional? Also is the ntr Netori or Netorare?

You have to be intentionally trying to get the ntr scenes to actually see any of them. The vast majorty of the Ntr is either from the mc acting like an idiot or intentionally letting other men sleep with your lovers because you get off to it. They're pretty much all out of character because the ntr scenes really only exist in this game for the sake of the fetish

 

[Ford Mustang]

You have to be intentionally trying to get the ntr scenes to actually see any of them. The vast majorty of the Ntr is either from the mc acting like an idiot or intentionally letting other men sleep with your lovers because you get off to it. They're pretty much all out of character because the ntr scenes really only exist in this game for the sake of the fetish

Thats what NTR is in general

 

[harem.king]

You have to be intentionally trying to get the ntr scenes to actually see any of them. The vast majorty of the Ntr is either from the mc acting like an idiot or intentionally letting other men sleep with your lovers because you get off to it. They're pretty much all out of character because the ntr scenes really only exist in this game for the sake of the fetish

Not true. And you even sorta admit it when you say "majority" instead of "all".
Yea sure, MOST scenes are you acting foolish. But there is a minority of scenes that you can see accidentally. whether it is from losing a battle, not realizing something that was obvious to others, a misclick, or forgetting something. (there are several repeatable like having to give penny veggies every week. for example. or another girl needs money. etc.)
this is why there is an option in the setting to disable it entirely, preventing it from happening accidentally.

 

[storm1051787]

Not true. And you even sorta admit it when you say "majority" instead of "all".
Yea sure, MOST scenes are you acting foolish. But there is a minority of scenes that you can see accidentally. whether it is from losing a battle, not realizing something that was obvious to others, a misclick, or forgetting something. (there are several repeatable like having to give penny veggies every week. for example. or another girl needs money. etc.)
this is why there is an option in the setting to disable it entirely, preventing it from happening accidentally.

Even for Penny the ntr won't happen unless both corrupt her a ton first and then not pay off her debt, and that's of course only if you got Lucius to help instead of Kathrine and are selling him your cum. Aside from Luvia and Tia getting raped because you lost a fight all the ntr only happens if you let it happen

 

[harem.king]

Thats what NTR is in general

in general it means cuckoldry

 

[harem.king]

Even for Penny the ntr won't happen unless both corrupt her a ton first and then not pay off her debt, and that's of course only if you got Lucius to help instead of Kathrine and are selling him your cum. Aside from Luvia and Tia getting raped because you lost a fight all the ntr only happens if you let it happen

1. Penny:
a. pure route has very little content (for all girls, not just penny). so everyone is playing corruption. so realistically almost everyone would corrupt her. I don't know anyone in this thread who is playing purity route
b. you can easily accidentally not pay off her debt.

2. You even explicitly admit Luvia and Tia can get raped if you lose a fight.
So no, it is not only because you chose to let it happen. Stop saying that nonsense when it contradicts your own claims.
At most you should be saying "there are only 2 cases where you can be NTRed against your will". You would be wrong as there are more, but at least you would be internally consistent.

3. there are other instances too. for example frisca fucks dave unless you realize you can "bump into her" to trip her and get mud on her dress.

4. you could be careless and fuck the succubus in front of mira which triggers ntr for her.

5. in monestary, you get caught by Mira fucking one of the other girls. if mira corruption is under 5 & NTR is not disabled in settings she will cuck you in revenge.

6.... honestly this is exhausting. pretty sure it isn't our first time rehashing this argument. I am not going to list everything yet again. That guy who asked in the first place should already see there are multiple examples and decide for himself whether he is going to enable it or disable it in settings.

Disabling in settings is the surefire way to ensure you don't get cucked

 

[Bahamut Zero]

1. Penny:
a. pure route has very little content. so everyone is playing corruption. so realistically almost everyone would corrupt her. I don't know anyone in this thread who is playing purity route
b. you can easily accidentally not pay off her debt.

2. You even explicitly admit Luvia and Tia can get raped if you lose a fight.
So no, it is not only because you chose to let it happen. Stop saying that nonsense when it contradicts your own claims.
At most you should be saying "there are only 2 cases where you can be NTRed against your will". You would be wrong as there are more, but at least you would be internally consistent.

3. there are other instances too. for example frisca fucks dave unless you realize you can "bump into her" to trip her and get mud on her dress.

4. you could be careless and fuck the succubus in front of mira which triggers ntr for her.

5. in monestary, you get caught by Mira fucking one of the other girls. if mira corruption is under 5 & NTR is not disabled in settings she will cuck you in revenge.

6.... honestly this is exhausting. pretty sure it isn't our first time rehashing this argument. I am not going to list everything yet again. That guy who asked in the first place should already see there are multiple examples and decide for himself whether he is going to enable it or disable it in settings.

Disabling in settings is the surefire way to ensure you don't get cucked

I totally agree. This is one of the reasons why I disabled NTR at the beginning of the game. Precisely because I didn't want to make a single misstep. The game introduces NTR as a punitive phase of the game, not as a real canon of the story. So you have to really like it, to want to see certain scenes. I remember that with all the NTR disabled, when I got to the church part, where I had to be careful of the sucubus because of Mira, I still had my finger ready, because I feared some plot repercussions or some bug on the NTR off.

Anyway from what I read, I'm probably one of the few who's playing Penny pure route
But I'm not really sure, because I was still in the early stages, if I'm not mistaken, I had reached the point where, she tells me about her boyfriend who left for war or something like that.

 

[storm1051787]

1. Penny:
a. pure route has very little content. so everyone is playing corruption. so realistically almost everyone would corrupt her. I don't know anyone in this thread who is playing purity route
b. you can easily accidentally not pay off her debt.

2. You even explicitly admit Luvia and Tia can get raped if you lose a fight.
So no, it is not only because you chose to let it happen. Stop saying that nonsense when it contradicts your own claims.
At most you should be saying "there are only 2 cases where you can be NTRed against your will". You would be wrong as there are more, but at least you would be internally consistent.

3. there are other instances too. for example frisca fucks dave unless you realize you can "bump into her" to trip her and get mud on her dress.

4. you could be careless and fuck the succubus in front of mira which triggers ntr for her.

5. in monestary, you get caught by Mira fucking one of the other girls. if mira corruption is under 5 & NTR is not disabled in settings she will cuck you in revenge.

6.... honestly this is exhausting. pretty sure it isn't our first time rehashing this argument. I am not going to list everything yet again. That guy who asked in the first place should already see there are multiple examples and decide for himself whether he is going to enable it or disable it in settings.

Disabling in settings is the surefire way to ensure you don't get cucked

You don't really seem to understand what I was saying was that it only happens when you let it happens. What I meant is that that you are given plenty of opportunities to prevent an ntr scene even and it's hard to get an ntr scene by accident that's out of no where. Even for the Tia and Luvia rape scenes losing a fight is pretty hard to do. Combat in this game is not super difficult and if a mob is too tough for you you are always given the option to run. For the most part you do have to intentionally throw the fight to see the actual ntr rape scenes. It's the whole reason why that knock out potion even exists



As for corruption vs non corruption. I've done both for the most part there is barely any difference between corroption vs non corruption for the majority of LI, Penny included. The only noticable difference is that non corrupted Li are less open to public sex but aside from that there's not really any thing you're relly missing out on. One or two scenes, not enough to say it has "little content" and a pure route is not the same as a route without any corruption at all either. Li naturally get corrupted just by Oral sex even if you're on the Love routes and Liandra gets corrupted just by reading a book. What I mean about corruption is solely about not using cum wine and selling your cum to Lucius. If you do that the only thing you'd actually miss out on is Natasha.


Frisha: Your point about Frisha is outright wrong. All bumping into her does is get her to come home early. It does nothing about progressing her route Ntr or not. Frisha only fucks dave if you literally do nothing when he's about to Rape her. If you don't spy on them on their date they literally don't do anything and Frisha just has dinner with him and goes home.


The succubus and Monastery ones where exactly what I was talking about and the Ntr scenes only happens if the Mc decides to act like an idiot. Mira will never cheat unless you literally have sex with another girl in front of her. The game even gives you a warning at the monastery. If you didn't realize Ntr would happen from either of those two scenes you deserve to get ntred.





6. I'm 100% sure I've never had this conversation with you before. Main reason why I even commented is because I wanted to point out how most of the ntr scenes don't really make much logical sense and feel out of character. I play with Ntr turned off. Storywise the ntr doesn't make anysense unless you play the mc as an asshole who likes to watch

 

[Noname3151]

That entrance is for the dwarves settlement. The goblins mines is through the stairs in the clearing on the right of it (where there's a group of goblins and a chest).
Edit: Screenshot added

Thanks!

 

[iamvenom_t]

You don't even need to cheat to get a Healing Potion to save Frank, do Tia's Quest, then Fate of Rumah then fight the Orcs by Gurtak they should drop a Healing Potion, then you save that for Frank. Or another way is Arianna when she gets captured, you locate the Cult and kill a cult member or sneak to open a chest to get a Healing Potion.

This technique is for when the "find out what happened at the bandit camp" mission is completed, when Frank's body is removed from the game.

 

[harem.king]

You don't really seem to understand what I was saying was that it only happens when you let it happens. What I meant is that that you are given plenty of opportunities to prevent an ntr scene even and it's hard to get an ntr scene by accident that's out of no where.

Given 100 easy skill checks, you realistically are going to roll some (metaphorical) nat 1s

If you are into that, fine. you do you.
If you are not into it though, just disable NTR in settings menu to avoid having to make those skill checks in the first place.

 

[storm1051787]

Given 100 easy skill checks, you realistically are going to roll some (metaphorical) nat 1s

If you are into that, fine. you do you.
If you are not into it though, just disable NTR in settings menu to avoid having to make those skill checks in the first place.

I play with ntr off but you don't really need to roll anything. Realistically the only ntr scene that could sneak up on you from a bad roll is losing a fight, but imo that's kind of hard to do unless you entered the fight already weakened. The actual story ntr scenes aren't like that and won't ever happen unless you allow it to happen. Like Frisha and Dave, you only get ntred if you deliberately let Dave rape her and her story won't progress unless the mc is present to stop it. So she's nver in any danger of having sex with Dave before you get to her. Most of the story ntr is rape/blackmail that the player can prevent very easily.

 

[kydo420]

Honestly, the existence of avoidable NTR is one of the reasons I like the RPG aspect of the game. It creates tension and shows the consequences of your choices. What is RPG without consequences?

 

[packor]

I don't really care, but some ppl are deep in denial. NTR is intended. It's not added just to cater to people. The vanilla choice is catering to people. You don't understand that Chyos likes to make NTR content, it's not because some early supporters asked for it or because of some "sway".

"Out of character" argument: The reason is because the NTR is optional, so NTR choices can't affect the plot, so any choice has to agree with the flow of vanilla choices.

 

[kydo420]

I don't really care, but some ppl are deep in denial. NTR is intended. It's not added just to cater to people. The vanilla choice is catering to people. You don't understand that Chyos likes to make NTR content, it's not because some early supporters asked for it or because of some "sway".

"Out of character" argument: The reason is because the NTR is optional, so NTR choices can't affect the plot, so any choice has to agree with the flow of vanilla choices.

It is, Chyos literally stated in the introduction when you started the game that playing with NTR on is what the game is intended to be played. I don't think a lot of people are in denial about it.

 

[Strajder]

There was some ntr scenes in the woods with orcs and Katherine when doing her quest, anyone knows is it possible to see that scene after the Katherine quest is finished??

 

[Matiur13]

There was some ntr scenes in the woods with orcs and Katherine when doing her quest, anyone knows is it possible to see that scene after the Katherine quest is finished??

As far as I know, that is a one time scene in the Hunting Grounds. Is not repeatable in the game and I think is not one of the Dream Scenes either.

 

[Strajder]

I'm at the step when john needs to craft armors for mercs but he only create swords, I smelted tons of iron bars but he just making swords so option to equip mercs are greyed out, is there any solution for this?

 

[Orichacos]

Besides having sex with max lust, are there any other ways to boost your chance to impregnate someone?

 

[Chii]

I'm at the step when john needs to craft armors for mercs but he only create swords, I smelted tons of iron bars but he just making swords so option to equip mercs are greyed out, is there any solution for this?

Play on previous version, or get the bugfix/wait for 6.0.0

Besides having sex with max lust, are there any other ways to boost your chance to impregnate someone?

Not to my knowledge. But considering you usually do this right after midnight it wouldn't take you too many reloads of the autosave to achieve this (the chances are high at max lust)