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Yeah, that makes more sense, I remember this being a requirement that tripped a lot of people up in the past, wasn't sure if it had changed or not.
As far as I recall you only need her anal training if you want to go Kate NTR route by askeing for her help getting the infos from her friends.
 
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This is what my questlog says. What should i do now??
Oh, so you don't have the key right? You got to the ritual room from Roderick's?

If so, You need Claire step #11.

(though you don't actually need Claire, it used to be that you could do this part before Roderick's section of the map and quest was added, going down there with Claire helps advance her part of the quest (romance her)).

The Tuesday, Thursday, or Sunday is kind of wrong though. It's actually 12:00 am Tue, Thurs or Sun, so work with Claire until you can peel potatoes on a Mon, Wed or Sat night and invite her downstairs with you.

(Or just watch Thomas go down into the cellar at 12:00 am Tue, Thurs or Sun.)

For me the best way to developer fix this eternal argument between NTR fans and vanilla route fans (my case include) is create a system let’s say “FRIEND +” (friend with benefits) Because I never see any no NTR fans complain in any game sleep with another people wife.:p
Serious normally do not like NTR because I do not find any motive in this game and many others to justify, to watch scene someone sleep with my loves interest without NO benefit, No Gain noting then to see another NPC normally a jack ass character sleep with some girls with I grind to conquest. And "friendship ++" make the things more easy to deal with situation since the LI is not your girlfriend anymore and she can have
anyone she wanted and if she is corrupt enough even can open some Threesome scene like M.F.M if you like and make this happens.
I give a example :

MIRA :

  • If MC did everything correct in the crypt church for Mira keep love route
  • If when Mira discovered about MC and Emily MC “said this no my thing” when Mira ask MC consent to try some things with Adalin (NTR route)
  • If in the monastery quest MC side with church and keep at least 1 girl virginity (Heather is the easy choice) and the ritual is a success and Mira gain some Demon Power (not implemented yet in the game) but like MC some collateral damage probably will happens.
  • If MC corrupt Mira to lv 10 or more and the scene between Heather blowjob and MC happens and Mira watched and get excited and like.
  • If MC already have a threesomes between Him, Emily e Frisha and like Emily always do she screaming to loud with can wake up Mira and she come to see what’s happens and with some level of corruption she can start play whit herself again, but the worse happens Mira discover that MC and Frisha have sex and with the rivalry with exist between the 2 sisters she can terminated the love route with MC and start dating Adalin. This can open a new range the options to developer pursue if him wanted like MC watch in Mira widows and see sex scene between she and Adalin if her corruption is hi enough, she can convince Adalin to accept a threesome between the three with a doble penetration in sex scene. I just do not know since I do not normally NTR route if this scene can happen with cosmetic way in the game because if the developer gives to Adalin a dick the same size of Bernard (The Monge dead at monastery) with even dead his dick is bigger the MC I do not know if Mira will be interested and missed the MC enchanted dick or maybe start call MC little pee wee.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
  • Another scene that can happen if Mira become a Friend + and let say MC do not go see the girls in Emily house for more them 20 days and Mira and Frisha fix the rivalry between them.and no one in the house have sex with MC some time Emily can invite MC for a special dinner drug him with some potion and tie him up in her bed them girls can use him until he gets passed out.
  • And if in the end of history MC wanted a happy end with Mira he always can forgive her.
  • Or if Chyos decide he will become the new king she can be his concubine (King can have many concubine he wanted or even MC is a God or Demigod the concept of fidelity have different meaning.
That would infuriate none NTR folks. How do I know? Because that's basically already what is in the game. If Mira catches the MC having sex with Heather, she asks if she can fool around with others, if the player choses "yes" then Mira will start fooling around with Aidalin. During the dialogue it is quite obvious to see that Chyos set it up to eventually have a MMF with the MC, Aidalin and Mira.

If you tell Mira yes, the MC and Mira continue in the exact same way that they do if the player says no. The only difference is instead of copying books in the church basement all day, she fools around with Aidalin in his room.

The MC, Rick and Pia scene isn't a punishment to the MC. Nor is the MC, Bjorn and Claire scene.

Yet no NTR sensitives hate all three of those scenes because they are almost punishments to the MC, the mere smell of another penis in the room upsets them.

So, no unfortunately your friend with benefits idea doesn't work, it's already in the game, and they already hate it. Most of the NTR in ASWS is sharing / group sex, not MC denial.
 

Overlord070

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As far as I recall you only need her anal training if you want to go Kate NTR route by askeing for her help getting the infos from her friends.
I'm pretty sure you need to mess around with her ass 2-5 times before they appear, but I'm too lazy to start a new game and check.
 

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That would infuriate none NTR folks. How do I know? Because that's basically already what is in the game. If Mira catches the MC having sex with Heather, she asks if she can fool around with others, if the player choses "yes" then Mira will start fooling around with Aidalin. During the dialogue it is quite obvious to see that Chyos set it up to eventually have a MMF with the MC, Aidalin and Mira.
There's also examples where things like "Verena having sex with her husband" and "MC's dad having sex with his long-time lover of two decades (Emily)" are both classified as NTR. NTR by the non-NTR fans' definition doesn't actually refer to real NTR. It refers to anyone but MC ever having sex, no matter the context. It could literally be someone that the MC never meets and vice versa and there'd still be at least one person whining about it being an NTR scene.
 
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Overlord070

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For me the best way to developer fix this eternal argument between NTR fans and vanilla route fans (my case include) is create a system let’s say “FRIEND +” (friend with benefits) Because I never see any no NTR fans complain in any game sleep with another people wife.:p
Serious normally do not like NTR because I do not find any motive in this game and many others to justify, to watch scene someone sleep with my loves interest without NO benefit, No Gain noting then to see another NPC normally a jack ass character sleep with some girls with I grind to conquest. And "friendship ++" make the things more easy to deal with situation since the LI is not your girlfriend anymore and she can have
anyone she wanted and if she is corrupt enough even can open some Threesome scene like M.F.M if you like and make this happens.
I give a example :

MIRA :

  • If MC did everything correct in the crypt church for Mira keep love route
  • If when Mira discovered about MC and Emily MC “said this no my thing” when Mira ask MC consent to try some things with Adalin (NTR route)
  • If in the monastery quest MC side with church and keep at least 1 girl virginity (Heather is the easy choice) and the ritual is a success and Mira gain some Demon Power (not implemented yet in the game) but like MC some collateral damage probably will happens.
  • If MC corrupt Mira to lv 10 or more and the scene between Heather blowjob and MC happens and Mira watched and get excited and like.
  • If MC already have a threesomes between Him, Emily e Frisha and like Emily always do she screaming to loud with can wake up Mira and she come to see what’s happens and with some level of corruption she can start play whit herself again, but the worse happens Mira discover that MC and Frisha have sex and with the rivalry with exist between the 2 sisters she can terminated the love route with MC and start dating Adalin. This can open a new range the options to developer pursue if him wanted like MC watch in Mira widows and see sex scene between she and Adalin if her corruption is hi enough, she can convince Adalin to accept a threesome between the three with a doble penetration in sex scene. I just do not know since I do not normally NTR route if this scene can happen with cosmetic way in the game because if the developer gives to Adalin a dick the same size of Bernard (The Monge dead at monastery) with even dead his dick is bigger the MC I do not know if Mira will be interested and missed the MC enchanted dick or maybe start call MC little pee wee.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
  • Another scene that can happen if Mira become a Friend + and let say MC do not go see the girls in Emily house for more them 20 days and Mira and Frisha fix the rivalry between them.and no one in the house have sex with MC some time Emily can invite MC for a special dinner drug him with some potion and tie him up in her bed them girls can use him until he gets passed out.
  • And if in the end of history MC wanted a happy end with Mira he always can forgive her.
  • Or if Chyos decide he will become the new king she can be his concubine (King can have many concubine he wanted or even MC is a God or Demigod the concept of fidelity have different meaning.
No offense, but what would be the point of introducing your changes, though?

Extra steps for the dev when he is already struggling with current content and meeting deadlines, most harem enjoyers don't want to see non MC scenes while most ntr players don't want the MC involved since they get off on the humiliation. This is why the ntr scenes are ludicrously contrived in this game, MC has an enchanted dick with addictive cum but somehow any random merc or peasant will make them scream and prefer them over the MC lol.
 

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No offense, but what would be the point of introducing your changes, though?

Extra steps for the dev when he is already struggling with current content and meeting deadlines, most harem enjoyers don't want to see non MC scenes while most ntr players don't want the MC involved since they get off on the humiliation. This is why the ntr scenes are ludicrously contrived in this game, MC has an enchanted dick with addictive cum but somehow any random merc or peasant will make them scream and prefer them over the MC lol.
This is one of the reasons why I find NTR stories or events in games pointless. In this specific case, I see a lot of hypocrisy in some users who try to make NTR fans saints. They say they don't go into the threads to complain about games... if not, I've seen thousands of users on this NTR fan forum enter every thread and ask for NTR content to be added. And if the author doesn't do it, they're just there complaining. And the funny thing is that 70% of games that add NTR always end up destroying the game and seeing the creator abandon the project. Because NTR doesn't sell as well as vanilla. They can say what they want, but three-quarters of the world isn't cuckold (I use the word cuckold, but in reality, NTR is much worse). But this is just an example I'm giving right now.

As for this game, as I was saying, the author himself, when he started creating it and posting the first installments, explained at the beginning that the NTR factor was only a punishment, if you played poorly. Now, due to the complaints from NTR fans, these scenes have grown by 400% and in any case, they practically have no reason to exist. But they keep saying it's non-NTR fans who complain... hypocrisy, take me away, in short :LOL:

Edit#1 (Because the translator didn't translate well what I was trying to say :ROFLMAO: )
If it weren't for the NTR complaints, the game would be much further along, with many more women to conquer and many more events to visit and play. But no, the author is somehow forced to constantly revisit content about women already seen, just to please and introduce new NTR scenes... tell me where the coherence is here.
 
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got a slight issue when i import old saves from the older version my game goes into like super speed, everything from scenes to the clock goes waaay to fast, anyone else have this issue and how can i fix it?
 

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There's also examples where things like "Verena having sex with her husband" and "MC's dad having sex with his long-time lover of two decades (Emily)" are both classified as NTR. NTR by the non-NTR fans' definition doesn't actually refer to real NTR. It refers to anyone but MC ever having sex, no matter the context. It could literally be someone that the MC never meets and vice versa and there'd still be at least one person whining about it being an NTR scene.
Unfair for those who disagree with this statement, I could counter that NTR fans are always trying to ridiclou none NTR fans because they realise their fetish is not as great as they claim it to be.
There are several Levels to shareing and cheating generalising like that isn't helpful.
 

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This is one of the reasons why I find NTR stories or events in games pointless. In this specific case, I see a lot of hypocrisy in some users who try to make NTR fans saints. They say they don't go into the threads to complain about games... if not, I've seen thousands of users on this NTR fan forum enter every thread and ask for NTR content to be added. And if the author doesn't do it, they're just there complaining. And the funny thing is that 70% of games that add NTR always end up destroying the game and seeing the creator abandon the project. Because NTR doesn't sell as well as vanilla. They can say what they want, but three-quarters of the world isn't cuckold (I use the word cuckold, but in reality, NTR is much worse). But this is just an example I'm giving right now.

As for this game, as I was saying, the author himself, when he started creating it and posting the first installments, explained at the beginning that the NTR factor was only a punishment, if you played poorly. Now, due to the complaints from NTR fans, these scenes have grown by 400% and in any case, they practically have no reason to exist. But they keep saying it's non-NTR fans who complain... hypocrisy, take me away, in short :LOL:

If it weren't for the NTR complaints, the game would be much further along, with many more women to conquer and many more events to visit and play. But no, they're always going back to content about women we've already seen, only to introduce new NTR scenes... tell me where the consistency is here.
Flat wrong on every single account, you are talking out three different sides of your mouth here. There is hardly any punishment or cuckold in ASWS most of it group scenes and sharing with two dicks. And hardly any of it has any animations that don't exist in the vanilla equivalent. With the Rick, MC and Pia scene. Ricks part is just a reskinned MC. Same as Bjorn in the Bjorn, MC and Claire. And those two scenes are two thirds of the recent NTR scenes.

And as far as complaining hypocrisy, where is anyone crying about more NTR? No one is. Yet here you are adding to the no NTR folks crying about it for no reason. No NTR was added yesterday, yet two people, yourself included are crying about how too much was added.

I am not even an NTR fan, just despise folks attacking a product that someone is working really hard on for completely unjustified reasons.

got a slight issue when i import old saves from the older version my game goes into like super speed, everything from scenes to the clock goes waaay to fast, anyone else have this issue and how can i fix it?
Did you use mods in the past?

I import saves across versions often, I don't know what is causing your issue, but it isn't from using old saves in newer versions.
 

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Did you use mods in the past?

I import saves across versions often, I don't know what is causing your issue, but it isn't from using old saves in newer versions.
tried it with a brand new install and one of the saves that were linked on the front page still same result.
and no havent really used more mods then the cheat book thats in the game
 

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How exactly is the building fix supposed to work?
I'm in Darkhold. Currently all ruins are down except the one besides the one right to where I am supposed to build the barracks. I've applied the fix, tried to tear it down again, the building itself is gone but the star remains. It produces wood stacks.
But every time I try to build the barracks it tells me I have to tear down one more ruin and the wood stacks are then gone. That doesn't make any sense.
There's a 50% at the location where the barracks should be built.
What am I missing here?
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I've checked the Darkhold Ruin switches and they are all on "true".
 
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Guys, has anyone heard if Chyos has discussed or talked about how he'll continue the Sophie princess's story? I'm stuck on the question of... whether or not to let her eavesdrop. Some people here have given me advice. Yet, I don't know how to proceed. It's the only quest that's put me on edge so far.
In your all opinion, what's the best option: to let her eavesdrop or not? I don't want Eric to win. But I also don't want to find myself in an unpleasant situation, if you understand what I mean.

Thank you
 
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tried it with a brand new install and one of the saves that were linked on the front page still same result.
and no havent really used more mods then the cheat book thats in the game
Sorry, I have no idea what would cause that issue.
 

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when rick being turned into a girl, when cat pet turned into a furry-like being and when stealing of the orc wife from big orc brute zholdan or smthing
 

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How exactly is the building fix supposed to work?
I'm in Darkhold. Currently all ruins are down except the one besides the one right to where I am supposed to build the barracks. I've applied the fix, tried to tear it down again, the building itself is gone but the star remains. It produces wood stacks.
But every time I try to build the barracks it tells me I have to tear down one more ruin and the wood stacks are then gone. That doesn't make any sense.
There's a 50% at the location where the barracks should be built.
What am I missing here?
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I've checked the Darkhold Ruin switches and they are all on "true".
You are still playing Tetris, but where you were tearing down, now you are building. Both with the building in front of you, and with the one to right of you.

When you play, now the lines won't disappear (tear down), they will build. The best you can do is two sessions, ten lines each time. It looks like you built half the barracks, do it again and you will complete it. The command center to the right requires you to complete 20 lines (10 lines per session max)as well.

How exactly is the building fix supposed to work?
I'm in Darkhold. Currently all ruins are down except the one besides the one right to where I am supposed to build the barracks. I've applied the fix, tried to tear it down again, the building itself is gone but the star remains. It produces wood stacks.
But every time I try to build the barracks it tells me I have to tear down one more ruin and the wood stacks are then gone. That doesn't make any sense.
There's a 50% at the location where the barracks should be built.
What am I missing here?
View attachment 5122903
I've checked the Darkhold Ruin switches and they are all on "true".
Maybe scratch that, maybe not. Did you ever start to build then cancel? If so, you may have ran into a bug I did and showed Chyos, it might be the case that you will need tomorrows bug fix. (I reverted to my old saves to fix it).
 

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Oh, so you don't have the key right? You got to the ritual room from Roderick's?

If so, You need Claire step #11.

(though you don't actually need Claire, it used to be that you could do this part before Roderick's section of the map and quest was added, going down there with Claire helps advance her part of the quest (romance her)).

The Tuesday, Thursday, or Sunday is kind of wrong though. It's actually 12:00 am Tue, Thurs or Sun, so work with Claire until you can peel potatoes on a Mon, Wed or Sat night and invite her downstairs with you.

(Or just watch Thomas go down into the cellar at 12:00 am Tue, Thurs or Sun.)
no no i do have the key. i cloned the key found in thomas room and then i worked for claire and entered from the underground cellar using that clone key
 
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