RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Apartment817]

Thanks for the insight. I do FRISHA before KATE route because of free stuff. The dilemma is PENNY route, especially in "defend of the castle" parts of the quest. Is it advisable to do Rumah/Merc quest first before tackling that quest? Also, Is it worth it to go to Kirlic first before LIANDRA comes?

My playstyle right now is to become playboy, so NTR-heavy stuff is preferable (especially KATE).

And last question, how to initiate anal sex for KATE after threesome scenes with CLAIRE (with high C for both)? I tried to initiate it with sex in the shared room, didn't worked. I tried to initiate it in the private room, also didn't worked.

I do not know what part of Penny is "defend the castle". Rumah has a protect the fort aspect. Penny has a defeat bandits in the mill, but neither of those quite match up. Penny isn't connected to Rumah, except for Tia's lube makes the anal sex easier.

Liandra isn't connected to the Old Boar (Kirlic), Liandra will be connected to future Kirlic quests, but right now you only can get half way to Kirlic, and that's related to Kate, unconnected to Liandra.

Kate's anal gets unlocked through her dancing in the red dress for you in her room. Not connected to threesomes with Claire.

Claire doesn't get anal until the Old Boar. If I remember right anal becomes part of the standard Kate & Claire threesome in Kate's bed, but only after it is unlocked for both.

 

[Apartment817]

Nah, there is threesome tiaxkath if kath is pregnant and your wanita in rumah and you sleep in the hut

Like I said, I saw where it would be, but can't get it to trigger. Katherin is pregnant. Tia will fuck the MC if I walk into her house and Katherin and Lyvia are fucking. Tia takes Bianca away with her when the MC fucks Katherin with Lyvia in the mornings. Drunk threesomes have happened several times.

No idea why the Rumah hut won't trigger for me, Tia just stays asleep.

Yours is the first confirmation that it is already in the game.

 

[volkshapo]

Like I said, I saw where it would be, but can't get it to trigger. Katherin is pregnant. Tia will fuck the MC if I walk into her house and Katherin and Lyvia are fucking. Tia takes Bianca away with her when the MC fucks Katherin with Lyvia in the mornings. Drunk threesomes have happened several times.

No idea why the Rumah hut won't trigger, Tia just stays asleep.

Yours is the first confirmation that it is already in the game.

I think you need to trigger pregnancy talk with kath, after that talk with tia about that, next nyra talk about wanita ceremony for kath and then threesome in the hut

 

[spiegelbild]

From the quest log and walkthrough at this point, you would have no idea what you need to do. I just troubleshot to figure it out. Talk to Roderick at 10 pm about the cult. The questline will update.



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spiegelbild does it only tell the MC "I should return to Roderic" from the save above I couldn't get that to trigger.

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Is this just a result of people finishing all of Arianna up to v0.6.0.5 before finishing Claire step 10?

Nope, I tried it and it only says that he shouldn't get closer, but I think it doesn't trigger because it's not the first time he caught them doing the ritual.
But I went to Roderick and the quest continue normally, so maybe Gantman didn't read what MC said the first time and got stuck (specially since the quest doesn't update at that point).

 

[Apartment817]

I think you need to trigger pregnancy talk with kath, after that talk with tia about that, next nyra talk about wanita ceremony for kath and then threesome in the hut

I got to the red "this isn't implemented yet" part of "Katherin's pregnancy" and had the ceremony out by the fire.

Guess I will spend some more nights in the hut.

Thanks for telling me it was there for sure. I only needed to try one more time.



Same scene can be initiated by choosing "Go To Bed" then letting Katherin put it in when she wakes you up. Tia woke up after mom came twice.

 

[volkshapo]

I got to the red "this isn't implemented yet" part of "Katherin's pregnancy" and had the ceremony out by the fire.

Guess I will spend some more nights in the hut.

Thanks for telling me it was there for sure. I only needed to try one more time.

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Same scene can be initiated by choosing "Go To Bed" then letting Katherin put it in when she wakes you up. Tia woke up after mom came twice.

Kathxlyvia and tiaxmc is triggered the second time you see kathxlyvia or what? on the first time tia was "no way, lets leave"

 

[Apartment817]

Kathxlyvia and tiaxmc is triggered the second time you see kathxlyvia or what? on the first time tia was "no way, lets leave"

Yeah she always freaks out the first time. I think it only takes twice for her to be dtf.

 

[PeteCB]

guys since this don't have on Walkthrough, i have forgot how to trigger blonde guy appear on base camp(merc camp) dead merc 1st or what?

or maybe give some advice or Walkthrough finish full scen thx

 

[Justonemore20]

I'm replaying the game because a LOT of time passed since the last time I played, and this time I wanted to make sure to do things right because the first time I played, I bewitched Gurtak, making the revenge quest either fail or impossible to clear, and failed other quests too by those types of logics. My objective was to have ntr on, but only as a punishment; I never went out of my way to trigger even a single ntr scene except to watch Emily and Marcus fuck in the prologue because I didn't care. Pretending it doesn't happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen after all. I am like 120 hours into the game with 70 quests completed, and then I got to the Kirlick trip, only to discover that for some reason Bjorn is the first character in the entire game that has a sharing/NTR quest that you cannot avoid getting, which is Bjorn's obsession. My only choices with that quest are either ignore it and never do it or tell him to stop going for Claire and fail the quest (because I don't plan to hook them up even if I fail the quest)... there goes my all-quest-cleared playthrough.

Just for that, if I ever replay the game a third time, I'm turning NTR off. Instead of a punishment for failing, it just punished me for having it turned on.

 

[volkshapo]

My only choices with that quest are either ignore it and never do it or tell him to stop going for Claire and fail the quest

Convince him by winning against him in gambling 2 times (you have to win all his money in the afternoon) - the first time you take everything he will offer you to spy on him and his wife having sex (only on ntr on mode). After the 2nd time the MC will explain why he wants to go to Kirlic and Bjorn will agree to help.

 

[Apartment817]

I'm replaying the game because a LOT of time passed since the last time I played, and this time I wanted to make sure to do things right because the first time I played, I bewitched Gurtak, making the revenge quest either fail or impossible to clear, and failed other quests too by those types of logics. My objective was to have ntr on, but only as a punishment; I never went out of my way to trigger even a single ntr scene except to watch Emily and Marcus fuck in the prologue because I didn't care. Pretending it doesn't happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen after all. I am like 120 hours into the game with 70 quests completed, and then I got to the Kirlick trip, only to discover that for some reason Bjorn is the first character in the entire game that has a sharing/NTR quest that you cannot avoid getting, which is Bjorn's obsession. My only choices with that quest are either ignore it and never do it or tell him to stop going for Claire and fail the quest (because I don't plan to hook them up even if I fail the quest)... there goes my all-quest-cleared playthrough.

Just for that, if I ever replay the game a third time, I'm turning NTR off. Instead of a punishment for failing, it just punished me for having it turned on.

You can pass the Old Boar quests without Bjorn fucking Claire.

 

[Justonemore20]

You can pass the Old Boar quests without Bjorn fucking Claire.

My problem is that the NTR quest stays in the quest log regardless of how you finished that, because they count as separated methods to get into Kirlick, and the quest stays even if you succeed in getting in through another method or quest.

 

[Apartment817]

My problem is that the NTR quest stays in the quest log regardless of how you finished that, because they count as separated methods and only that one has a quest to it.

What is your fear of failing the quest?

Besides, she can only take both of you at the same time if you train her to do so.

And even if you do MMF afterwards you can tell her never to do it again.

You can also tell her to fuck Bjorn whenever.

I tell her she can only fuck him when the MC is present.

It's not punishment NTR, even when you tell her to fuck him whenever. She only fucks him if you get her horny on the balcony, and then leave her alone.

It's just a MMF, it's cool if that is not your thing. You don't have to do it even with the NTR switch on.

 

[Justonemore20]

What is your fear of failing the quest?

Besides, she can only take both of you at the same time if you train her to do so.

And even if you do MMF afterwards you can tell her never to do it again.

You can also tell her to fuck Bjorn whenever.

I tell her she can only fuck him when the MC is present.

It's not punishment NTR, even when you tell her to fuck him whenever. She only fucks him if you get her horny on the balcony, and then leave her alone.

It's just a MMF, cool that it's not your thing. You don't have to do it even with the NTR switch on.

Nah, my complaint is that so far the game did a very good job of separating the content for those who wanted or didn't want to see certain content, but now a certain fetish has bled into a playthrough that didn't want that content, and I have to either do it to clear the quest or have it fail (or remain in the quest log forever).

 

[volkshapo]

What are characters that can get pregnant? I don't mean full pregnancy like kate but at least triggers? Kath, kate, ayita? I think i saw variable for verena being pregnant but i doubt

have to either do it to clear the quest or have it fail (or remain in the quest log forever).

Just treat them as quests are not implemented and they still appear in quest log. Or revenge quest you complained about i think was possible to finish by just talking to withcrafted gortak in the calans after saving kath

 

[Apartment817]

Nah, my complaint is that so far the game did a very good job of separating the content for those who wanted or didn't want to see certain content, but now a certain fetish has bled into a playthrough that didn't want that content, and I have to either do it to clear the quest or have it fail (or remain in the quest log forever).

You left the switch on though.

It takes literally ten seconds to skip the scene.

The MC fucking Claire is as much you fucking Claire, as it is Bjorn fucking Claire.

Is that really worth this level of upset?

I don't remember for sure, but I think you can pass the quest just by letting him beat off in the corner watching you. If I got that wrong, remember it takes ten seconds to skip and you can tell her never again after.

 

[Apartment817]

What are characters that can get pregnant? I don't mean full pregnancy like kate but at least triggers? Kath, kate, ayita? I think i saw variable for verena being pregnant but i doubt



Just treat them as quests are not implemented and they still appear in quest log. Or revenge quest you complained about i think was possible to finish by just talking to withcrafted gortak in the calans after saving kath

Arianna, Bridget. You didn't say Emily, but I think you know. Feel like I missing someone else, but not coming to mind.

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"Revenge" can get bugged, sometimes I have the choice to squash the beef in Madrag Kaz, sometimes I don't. I have taken to just killing him to clear the quest. I do get the desire for having a quest log that is clean as possible.

 

[Justonemore20]

You left the switch on though.

It takes literally ten seconds to skip the scene.

The MC fucking Claire is as much you fucking Claire, as it is Bjorn fucking Claire.

Is that really worth this level of upset?

I don't remember for sure, but I think you can pass the quest just by letting him beat off in the corner watching you. If I got that wrong, remember it takes ten seconds to skip and you can tell her never again after.

I actually tried the variations; you cannot avoid the quest because you receive both the quest to look for Carmen's son and the quest of Bjorn's obsession when talking to her in the day; you cannot get either at any other moment. If you start Bjorn's obsession by losing money in blackjack but then tell him no to watch you fuck Claire, the quest fails. If you let him watch, then the quest continues, and he asks to fuck her. If you tell him no and that he should move on, the quest fails again. So what I said is, I either do it or have that little thorn on my side that is a failed/incomplete quest.

My rant is because, my friend, it is forced content regardless of if it is a big deal or not. There is so much content fetish in this game that it is separated from the quest system and that you have to actively look for it or use the walkthrough to even know about it, but Chyos decided to put a quest in this one…

Edit: this obviously is only and issue if you like me want to clear all quests succesfully.

 

[Apartment817]

I actually tried the variations; you cannot avoid the quest because you receive both the quest to look for Carmen's son and the quest of Bjorn's obsession when talking to her in the day; you cannot get either at any other moment. If you start Bjorn's obsession by losing money in blackjack but then tell him no to watch you fuck Claire, the quest fails. If you let him watch, then the quest continues, and he asks to fuck her. If you tell him no and that he should move on, the quest fails again. So what I said is, I either do it or have that little thorn on my side that is a failed/incomplete quest.

My rant is because, my friend, it is forced content regardless of if it is a big deal or not. There is so much content fetish in this game that it is separated from the quest system and that you have to actively look for it or use the walkthrough to even know about it, but Chyos decided to put a quest in this one…

Edit: this obviously is only and issue if you like me want to clear all quests succesfully.

If you feel "Bjorn's Obsession" is forced on you, turn the NTR switch to off. Then no quest. Nothing is forced.

If you feel this strongly, why do you have it on????

 

[Justonemore20]

Turn the NTR switch to off. Then no quest. Nothing is forced.

Well, this actually works, so thanks. Let's just see if it doesn't break my game later. I still find it baffling that the solution is to disable the NTR option before going to the old board for the first time just so you don't get the quest.

If I were Chios, I would have simply made it a global quest, something like:

[Convincing bjorn]

"I have to find a way to convince Bjorn to help us enter Kirlic"

Objectives:

• Maybe I can ask his wife to convince him to help us. I may need to gain her trust first.
• He likes to gamble in the afternoons; maybe if I win enough times, I can convince him to help us as a payment.
• Carmen told me that bjorn had feelings for claire, maybe I can use her to convince him to help us.

Then you do one of the three, and the quest clears. I don't know why chyos made it like he did, first the gambling and winning option doesn't have a quest, and even if you go for the route when carmen helps convincing him the quest about him fucking claire remains. It just kind of disappoints me that your best choice is to either go with it or turn the option off in the settings before you get there so you don't even get the quest, and it is clearly an NTR quest since toggling off NTR prevents you from getting it. This one, however, can only be avoided by changing settings, no way to avoid it in-game with the option on like the rest of the NTR quests and content.

If you feel this strongly, why do you have it on????

1. It is the way the game was intended to be played, with it as a punishment for losing and such, said by the game itself when you start a new game.

2. If I ever see an NTR scene, I would know I screwed up somewhere, so it is a clear-cut indication of "You messed up."

3. Puts pressure on you to not screw up.