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Wow! There is a dream occurred after MC was auto-defeated by the cult! I've never had this dream in my first playthrough. :unsure:
Lmao the first times I played this game Igor defeated so many times, that I know this flashback like the palm of my hand
 
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Evangelion-01

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When doing the Mira missions and you read the letter, if you read the letter a second time it allows you to change the relationships to the various characters from friends to siblings as an example. I changed it for the first time to a sibling/father-son incest relationship for giggles and during the scenes with Mira there were noticeable changes not just swapping out words or nicknames but different phrases and dialog. So a few questions...

Is it just in my head or did Chyos put in a slightly different dialog for an Incest storyline?

Will this destroy the overall main storyline or is this intentional? In other words, was this put in to avoid some obvious censorship/banning bullshit?

I'm mainly just curious to know which one is the correct one? As in the intentional design by the author. I don't know if he put that in there to pander to a specific fetish or if that was his original plan the whole time?

Edit: Nevermind. I read the warning and reread the letter and now it completely breaks the story logic where Marcus says he was the bodyguard shortly after admitting he was your guardian. So I got my answer, but why did Chyos make unique dialog for a incest scenario if he never intended for that to be the direction of the game?
Chyos was a bit pressured to allow some Incest relationship as I gather... it's quiet a popular fetish these days... even more so on this Forum.
Patreon guidlines on the otherhand forbid this content so the letter was a good way to block this content from normal plays while offering a chance to unlock it for invested Players aiming for this fetish
It won't break the main story as the MC is either completly unrelated to Marcus or a Bastard between him and his mother (she is likely tied to the main story)... Mira on the other hand is a bastard with a village girl and won#t matter much in regards to heritage.
The correct way to read the letter is the default way, but aside of different fialogues throughout Mira's and Emily's story there is nothing affected by that choice
 

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When doing the Mira missions and you read the letter, if you read the letter a second time it allows you to change the relationships to the various characters from friends to siblings as an example. I changed it for the first time to a sibling/father-son incest relationship for giggles and during the scenes with Mira there were noticeable changes not just swapping out words or nicknames but different phrases and dialog. So a few questions...

Is it just in my head or did Chyos put in a slightly different dialog for an Incest storyline?

Will this destroy the overall main storyline or is this intentional? In other words, was this put in to avoid some obvious censorship/banning bullshit?

I'm mainly just curious to know which one is the correct one? As in the intentional design by the author. I don't know if he put that in there to pander to a specific fetish or if that was his original plan the whole time?

Edit: Nevermind. I read the warning and reread the letter and now it completely breaks the story logic where Marcus says he was the bodyguard shortly after admitting he was your guardian. So I got my answer, but why did Chyos make unique dialog for a incest scenario if he never intended for that to be the direction of the game?
The letter doesnt break the story at all and there is no correct path. Its either you want incest or dont.

In the Incest path Marcus has an affair with your mother and you are their offspring and Marcus/Emily also happens at some point so Mira is technically your half-sister by blood.

He couldnt publicly come out and say you were his son because your mother is someone important in Kirlic so he WAS your biological father but had to say guardian. He kept the secret of your parentage to himself to protect the woman he loved and you.

In the regular version he's just some dude who looks out for you after bad things happen in the capital with your family. In the incest version its very romance novel like with him flee'ing the capital, unrequited love, forbidden affairs...personally I think it makes for a better plot in the long run.
 
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i dont understand what is every fuss about - there is about 10 girls in story line, i respect there is some futa - and decision, is patreons good will - on my hand i would not allow that - just deal with it.

u screwed up game: now recieve consequences. but i understand most of subs are soft so its fine
 

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In the regular version he's just some dude who looks out for you after bad things happen in the capital with your family. In the incest version its very romance novel like with him flee'ing the capital, unrequited love, forbidden affairs...personally I think it makes for a better plot in the long run.
I get that in the regular version he's just looking out for your family, and I completely agree with your assessment of the incest version (putting the incest fetish aside) about the forbidden affair/love. It does sound like a better story. In order to protect the MC he Marcus had to run away.

However in the latter on down the road I'm wondering if it's going to severely break the game logic. Since there isn't much to the main plot yet, you cant really screw anything up that much. What will happen when Chyos starts to create cities like the one the MC's mother was in? What will happen when Chyos starts to create a story about finding what happened to the MC's parents and his origins? Why did Marcus have to run with him? I'm wondering about these plot questions in the original storyline and now that I just found out he wrote in some Incest storyline, I'm wondering what's going to happen if/when it gets to the breaking point? What will happen if the MC's REAL father makes an appearance?
 

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Can someone help me?? I tried using my save from the previous versions and I tried downloading the cheat mod but when I played the game, the item is not there anymore and I can't get it from the guard since the guard was replace by a mercenary due to the previous missions.
 

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However in the latter on down the road I'm wondering if it's going to severely break the game logic. Since there isn't much to the main plot yet, you cant really screw anything up that much. What will happen when Chyos starts to create cities like the one the MC's mother was in? What will happen when Chyos starts to create a story about finding what happened to the MC's parents and his origins? Why did Marcus have to run with him? I'm wondering about these plot questions in the original storyline and now that I just found out he wrote in some Incest storyline, I'm wondering what's going to happen if/when it gets to the breaking point? What will happen if the MC's REAL father makes an appearance?
There wouldn't be much of a difference.
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Chyos was a bit pressured to allow some Incest relationship as I gather... it's quiet a popular fetish these days... even more so on this Forum.
That's what I thought at first, I just wanted to make sure. I get that it's popular I occasionally play games with that fetish in it but I've never forced the issue into a game. However just as a commentary note, the idea of Marcus running away with to protect his bastard kid, a forbidden love affair all sounded kinda cool on top of what would've been a plot twist that Mira would've been your sister. Personally I thought that might've made for a more interesting story, and the MC should've been able to talk it out and maybe choose to go down the Incest route or just a healthy platonic relationship (I guess she'd start dating Aidalin).

Anyway though that's just wishful thinking and I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Chyos is going to do with the MC, his parents, Mira, and all the other characters caught up in this drama.

There wouldn't be much of a difference.
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Again we'll have to see what Chyos does with these characters. I think what your saying about the Marcus/Mother angle does make sense on the condition that the MC NEVER brings up the issue of his biological father. If his mother was someone of great importance than isn't it also a pretty good assumption that his father is of equal importance? So if the MC asks a simple question "what about my father" then the entire Incest story gets blown out of the water. I don't see how it can hold up unless you try to paint some love triangle. For example the Mother is supposed to be married to "John" yet she's fucking her lover Marcus, gets knocked up and it all goes to Hell.

Personally I hope the mother being assassinated is all talk. The reason you gave for her assassination doesn't make any sense to me. While I know that nobody, especially a new King would want any competition for their birthright, typically women in these situations were used as political bargaining chips. To be married off and form alliances. She holds more value as a wife then as a corpse. I don't think killing her off for that reason is going to go over well unless there's some major catalyst for the assassination. Like for example her taking sides or giving a major speech for peace or power, but to go from that to murdering your own family is very dark. I don't see it happening, there has to be more to it. Now her betraying the family with something like adultery for example (possible love affair with Marcus), could very well be punishable by death or even if she fell in love with someone that threatened the power of the other two kings. Again I don't know, I'm just throwing out different Ideas. I personally would like the MC to have some family and not be completely alone in the game. It's sad to think that everyone that cared about the MC before his lust/penis curse(or gift) is dead. Also a secret lover sounds better than a loyal bodyguard.
 
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That's what I thought at first, I just wanted to make sure. I get that it's popular I occasionally play games with that fetish in it but I've never forced the issue into a game. However just as a commentary note, the idea of Marcus running away with to protect his bastard kid, a forbidden love affair all sounded kinda cool on top of what would've been a plot twist that Mira would've been your sister. Personally I thought that might've made for a more interesting story, and the MC should've been able to talk it out and maybe choose to go down the Incest route or just a healthy platonic relationship (I guess she'd start dating Aidalin).

Anyway though that's just wishful thinking and I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Chyos is going to do with the MC, his parents, Mira, and all the other characters caught up in this drama.


Again we'll have to see what Chyos does with these characters. I think what your saying about the Marcus/Mother angle does make sense on the condition that the MC NEVER brings up the issue of his biological father. If his mother was someone of great importance than isn't it also a pretty good assumption that his father is of equal importance? So if the MC asks a simple question "what about my father" then the entire Incest story gets blown out of the water. I don't see how it can hold up unless you try to paint some love triangle. For example the Mother is supposed to be married to "John" yet she's fucking her lover Marcus, gets knocked up and it all goes to Hell.

Personally I hope the mother being assassinated is all talk. The reason you gave for her assassination doesn't make any sense to me. While I know that nobody, especially a new King would want any competition for their birthright, typically women in these situations were used as political bargaining chips. To be married off and form alliances. She holds more value as a wife then as a corpse. I don't think killing her off for that reason is going to go over well unless there's some major catalyst for the assassination. Like for example her taking sides or giving a major speech for peace or power, but to go from that to murdering your own family is very dark. I don't see it happening, there has to be more to it. Now her betraying the family with something like adultery for example (possible love affair with Marcus), could very well be punishable by death or even if she fell in love with someone that threatened the power of the other two kings. Again I don't know, I'm just throwing out different Ideas. I personally would like the MC to have some family and not be completely alone in the game. It's sad to think that everyone that cared about the MC before his lust/penis curse(or gift) is dead. Also a secret lover sounds better than a loyal bodyguard.
I'd pressume that the MC feels so distanted from his "parents" he never knew that he won't try to actually delve deeper than the issue at hands that could potentially threaten his live... except for a few phrases same as currently done with Mira.
While I agree that a woman is no direct threat to a King it's a different matter if it was known she was expecting or even haveing a son. Even if only a nephew to the late King, given the political turmoil the heritage took it's not out of the question that nobles would try to make him a King... either in order to influence him from a VERY young age or because they sincerly believe him to be a better choice than his cousins.
Murdering the "parents" before giving birth or right after leaving the kid to die would be an easy way to deal with such a threat.
She was married in a political marriage before which allowed her to be pregnant without causing a direct scandal.
Like for example her taking sides or giving a major speech for peace or power, but to go from that to murdering your own family is very dark.
A rather common occurence in medieval european courts though.
 
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MC mother can be a goddess!! just like her sister and why only mc be the chosen one and not the other there are too many man dude.. and i don care about the fKing and his son just wan to know more about what happened in the first goddess war with the orc..
Son of a goddess?
Where are the evidences?
By Marcus letter it is confirmed she was at least human
 

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MC mother can be a goddess!! just like her sister and why only mc be the chosen one and not the other there are too many man dude.. and i don care about the fKing and his son just wan to know more about what happened in the first goddess war with the orc..
What war did the gods fight against mortals like the orcs?
We did receive bits of information, that when the late King surpressed the orc civilisation on the continent, the humans tryed to counter the ritual and magic power of the Orcs by building churches on the conquered ritual sides... but there never was an indication that the gods actively went to war against one another... even Isha's story is only a story about a quarrel and not a full blown war.
 
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sure he is if the father are a human and why Gwen waiting so long for him and need his help? don tell me the king blood line is like a superman and not a normal human...
Gwen waited for a fertile young man, she hardly had any visitors and only lately recovered enough powers in order to extract her own godly essence and the knowledge to implant it into a human.
That way she intends to regain all of her lost powers and ascend back to godhood.
It was only good/bad fortune on the MCs side that he met Gwen under these circumstances, she never indicated that only a human of his bloodline could have been useful to her the way he was... nor does any information indicate that she has any deeper knowledge about the MCs past
 
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is there a way to get the book of potion without getting hiba the method is too scummy for me I like the subtle approach.
 

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If you're talking about sending her to the orc camp then I thought her dialog stayed the same there no matter what corruption level she was. I had her at 25 and I had her at 0 and when I sent her to the orc camp when I was chief it was the same slutty dialog. I think she loves it regardless.
Well for me it changed from her trying to resist a little to giving in to pleasure
So i thought to try that with Dasak but i just can't raise it
any ideas on how to?
 

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The walkthrough tells you everything.
The only way to get book of potion from Katherine is doing the anal quest and I'm not a fan of anal and to start it I have to cuck the guy who is with with Hiba I'm fine with cucking the guy but the method is too aggressive for my take.
 

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The only way to get book of potion from Katherine is doing the anal quest and I'm not a fan of anal and to start it I have to cuck the guy who is with with Hiba I'm fine with cucking the guy but the method is too aggressive for my take.
Because for The mind manipulation?
 

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got several question, since there are multiple girl, are all available for ntr? also is there any recollection room or do i need to play from beginning to see all scene? thankyou
 
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