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I literally can't stop checking everything while waiting for this next update. Like every 30 mins I'm just typing Chyos into the search bar.
You won't get it here for a few days. Patrons don't even have it yet, it's had some issues. Chyos said in the discord yesterday we should get it today, but he thought that Friday and yesterday.
 

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Even when I have enough energy(around 80 if the max is 100) it shows me "Enough..I am tired to do it" dialogue. Why is it so?
 

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Even when I have enough energy(around 80 if the max is 100) it shows me "Enough..I am tired to do it" dialogue. Why is it so?
My guess is time of day, you can't start build projects in the evening, kind of unfair, but also makes some sense. Several of the build projects have the MC interrupted by someone. So like if it's one of the projects where Rick walks up to you as you finish, it wouldn't make sense for him to interrupt you at 11:00pm when his avatar is also at home in bed.

It could be that you already finished a project on this day, and the coded spacing of the project only allows one step to be completed per day. There are several instances of that in the game.

It doesn't sound like it applies to you here, but there is also a requirement to sleep at least once every few days. Otherwise you get the exhausted status (displayed as an icon up right by the stomach marker). Drinking an energy potion can make it go away, but it will come right back in a few hours, it's best to sleep. (You can use the cheatbook to recover food and energy, food marker will go away on a full belly after you go somewhere else, but exhausted marker stays until you sleep or drink a potion even if energy is at 100.)
 
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My guess is time of day, you can't start build projects in the evening, kind of unfair, but also makes some sense. Several of the build projects have the MC interrupted by someone. So like if it's one of the projects where Rick walks up to you as you finish, it wouldn't make sense for him to interrupt you at 11:00pm when his avatar is also at home in bed.

It could be that you already finished a project on this day, and the coded spacing of the project only allows one step to be completed per day. There are several instances of that in the game.

It doesn't sound like it, but there is also a requirement to sleep at least once every few days. Otherwise you get the exhausted status (displayed as an icon up right by the stomach marker). Drinking an energy potion can make it go away, but it will come right back in a few hours, it's best to sleep. (You can use the cheatbook to recover food and energy, food marker will go away on a full belly after you go somewhere else, but exhausted marker stays until you sleep on drink a potion even if energy is at 100.)
Thanks a lot! Also I wanted to know that for making oven for Mira I need 5x copper ore. Is there any easier way of finding rusted swords as I can't find the pickaxe in Lucius's store to mine copper ore. What's the reason for that?
 
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Thanks a lot! Also I wanted to know that for making oven for Mira I need 5x copper ore. Is there any easier way of finding rusted swords as I can't find the pickaxe in Lucius's store to mine copper ore. What's the reason for that?
For me fighting the orc that attacks when you watch Tia chop wood has been a reliable source for rusty swords, you can always save scum it as well.

The pickaxe is in a goofy spot, and isn't visible like the shovel, map and rope are.

Sidenote, this is my zero save file, just after the intro, I have it so that I can get screenshots like this, anyways, conveniently the exhausted icon I mentioned above is just above the MC.
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@storm1051787 Jesus, now that you are saying that FFM aren't NTR
I literally never said they are ntr in the first place and I have no idea why you thought I was claiming that at all. I was listing the total amount of scenes added by corruption. A few characters get more scenes both most characters get nothing at all and Corruption is only influenced in ntr and dialogue. Considering you only listed about 4/5 Li out of the 30 or so in the game I don't really see how I'm wrong about that.

Plus you keep flip flopping between some corruption and no corruption.
Like the FFM I never flipped flop you just started arguing a point I never said

When I say no corruption I don't mean the corruption meter doesn't go up at all. I mean they don't trigger any of those checks where they start to become slutty and doing things like public sex.
Again when I say non corruption I'm talking about getting to the point when you got to the point where their behavior and dialogue changes. Not that the corruption meter doesn't go up at all, just that it's not being used for any checks you can also get an inhibitor for blow jobs anyway. The point is more that corruption is more like brainwashing and low corruption is their real personalities.
I established I'm talking corruption checks and using Isha's curse pretty early on and not stuff like handing Liandra a book.



Without Frisha and Emily Corruption you can't get the threesome in Emily's room, YOU DON'T GET EMILY REVERSE COWGIRL IN ANY OTHER SCENE
You get reverse cowgirl in your bedroom which you already mentioned
Without Tia corruption you can't fuck Tia in Arenfield

Same as her normal scene but in a different location
Without corruption you aren't getting the scene in the Chieftain hut with Nyra at night.
False none of Nyra's scenes are effected by corruption. The only difference is that Tia watches when she's corrupted. But you don't have to corrupt Nyra at all.
Without Tia corruption, you can't masturbate with Tia in your party and get a BJ.
Same as her normal blowjob scene but in a different location
Without Corruption you can't fuck Tia at home at noon
Literally the same as her other scene but at a different time of day. I was pretty clear last comment the reason why I didn't count a few FFM was because a lot of them are just the same scene you get without a corruption just with another person watching or present to you can switch. This is exactly one of those scenes I'm talking about
Without Tia corruption you can't get Tia anal from watching
This is false as well. You can get tia anal in your hunt
Without Tia and Raaisha corruption you aren't getting this scene in the chieftains hut
Same scene just with Tia being present.

You can't get anal in the kitchen.
Same as her normal scene but in a different location



I could do this extensive of a list for at least half of the remaining LI's,
Most don't have any corruption scenes at all and even half the ones you listed you can get without corruption that you just seemed to be unaware of.

Only really Katherine and Lyvia are heavily cut off by not having corruption
 

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For me fighting the orc that attacks when you watch Tia chop wood has been a reliable source for rusty swords, you can always save scum it as well.

The pickaxe is in a goofy spot, and isn't visible like the shovel, map and rope are.

Sidenote, this is my zero save file, just after the intro, I have it so that I can get screenshots like this, anyways, conveniently the exhausted icon I mentioned above is just above the MC.
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I have a doubt asI only have 4 hearts with Frisha, and now the King has already arrived and went at Arenfield. I'm currently at the part where I need to infiltrate the Mayor's mansion to overhear their(Frisha and mayor son) conversation. But in the walkthrough, that's listed as Step 7. Will I miss out on everything related to Frisha before Step 7, or can I still continue her romance path afterward? I'm a bit confused.
 

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I have a doubt asI only have 4 hearts with Frisha, and now the King has already arrived and went at Arenfield. I'm currently at the part where I need to infiltrate the Mayor's mansion to overhear their(Frisha and mayor son) conversation. But in the walkthrough, that's listed as Step 7. Will I miss out on everything related to Frisha before Step 7, or can I still continue her romance path afterward? I'm a bit confused.
You can go on... this part is outdated as originally the Kings arrival was bound to Frishas storyline, by now more triggers were included which allow such constelations, the only impact that Event had was a talk Giron and Dave should have after reaching step 7 in Frishas storyline I suppose (about Dave being a noble now)
 

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You can go on... this part is outdated as originally the Kings arrival was bound to Frishas storyline, by now more triggers were included which allow such constelations, the only impact that Event had was a talk Giron and Dave should have after reaching step 7 in Frishas storyline I suppose (about Dave being a noble now)
Ok so according to walkthrough I am not getting an option to ask her to make a dress for me. Also will the Frisha event will happening automatically in background if I have completed until step 9 or I can progress it whenever I want
 

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Ok so according to walkthrough I am not getting an option to ask her to make a dress for me. Also will the Frisha event will happening automatically in background if I have completed until step 9 or I can progress it whenever I want
Which dress exactly?
How high is your dexterity?
 
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You get reverse cowgirl in your bedroom which you already mentioned
I didn't mention it before, the scene has Emily sucking the MC and Frisha face riding that combination can only exist in a threesome, same with a different angle of Frisha face riding not available in other scenes.
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Same as her normal scene but in a different location
Wrong. You only stand and lift her in Arenfield, you don't at Katherin's
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You don't in Rumah
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Refresher on what the standing looks like:
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False none of Nyra's scenes are effected by corruption. The only difference is that Tia watches when she's corrupted. But you don't have to corrupt Nyra at all.
I deliberately said without corrupt you don't get the scene with Tia and Nyra, I specifically did not say Nyra corruption, because I know that. But Tia is there with dialogue, it is a different scene. On one hand you count getting head and intercourse in one scene as two separate scenes, but then argue that when a third person is involved it isn't something new. You move the goal posts.

Same as her normal blowjob scene but in a different location
Dialogue plays out different, and getting head before bed is a totally different thing then to be walking with four women by your side, pull your dick out and one just automatically drops to her knees and sucks you off. Talking and THINKING about how much it turns her on. It's different, no matter how much you need it not to be.

Literally the same as her other scene but at a different time of day. I was pretty clear last comment the reason why I didn't count a few FFM was because a lot of them are just the same scene you get without a corruption just with another person watching or present to you can switch. This is exactly one of those scenes I'm talking about
So are you know going to try and argue that dialogue and personality aren't an important part of what makes a lewd game sexy??? Walking on Lyvia and Katherin with Tia, and Tia wanting to fuck, with all four having dialogue about it, is something that doesn't exist anywhere else in the game.

If animations are all that is important to you, WHY ARE YOU ARGUING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING HONORABLE? It's because you are right about a part of it, the story aspect matters, the Tia foursome has a titillating aspect that doesn't exist anywhere else in the game.

Same scene just with Tia being present.
Does story matter or does it not?

This is false as well. You can get tia anal in your hunt
You get Tia anal in your hut after she sees you fuck Hiba in the butt, she is only okay with that if she is corrupted. Read what I said.

Same scene just with Tia being present.
Does story matter or does it not?

Same as her normal scene but in a different location
Does story matter or does it not? The fact that Emily wants anal so bad she has to have it where her daughters can hear it, makes it different. The dialogue reflects that.

Most don't have any corruption scenes at all and even half the ones you listed you can get without corruption that you just seemed to be unaware of.
Name some, with the fact that 38 LI's in the game have at least one scene, you have to name 20 in order to be most. We both know you can't name more than a handful, and even that handful will debatably have corruption only scenes.

Only really Katherine and Lyvia are heavily cut off by not having corruption
You disputed two of Emily's scenes. I dispute the Emily bedroom threesome as redundant, there are angles and combinations unique to the threesome, and since you want to say Kitchen Anal doesn't count, here is the Kitchen scene I didn't count before. It's the only scene where Emily stands.
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So Emily still loses 66% of her scenes without corruption.
SO JUST EMILY THREE VANILA, ONE KITCHEN, THREE THREESOMES, ONE FOURSOME

Total 8 scenes, 3 no corruption, 5 require corruption.

62% of Emily's content requires corruption.

Even if I allow you that the Threesome in Emily's room not to count, that is

3 no corruption and 4 requiring corruption. (Kitchen sex, Frisha's room, Mira's room and HotTub)

Even you don't dispute 57% of Emily's content is locked behind corruption.


Only really Katherine and Lyvia are heavily cut off by not having corruption
You disputed 6 of Tia's scenes. With each you said they were part of her three vanilla scenes, though she only stands in Arenfield which requires corruption, she only gets Anal if she is willing to watch Hiba, here is what happens when I allow your argument.


SO JUST TIA THREE VANILA, ONE SCENE IN LOCATIONS OR POSITIONS ONLY AVAILABLE WITH CORRUPTION (the variety at the fire is different), THREE GROUP SCENES (Katherin, Lyvia, and Imawyn)

Total 7 scenes, 3 no corruption, 4 require corruption.

Even if I allow your wrong argument, even with your counting Tia loses 57% of her content that is a majority.

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How are you saying 57% (The number when I allow your disputes of both Tia and Emily) are not heavy amounts of content cut of by corruption? :ROFLMAO:

At least you have conceded Lyvia and Katherin.

Why do you like dying on hills that you are clearly wrong on?

I am willing to continue this until you concede that almost every LI loses significant content without corruption. (Even Anya gives you access to yoga scenes only full unlocked with corruption, Melissa masturbating is like 25% of her available scenes.)
 
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I have a doubt asI only have 4 hearts with Frisha, and now the King has already arrived and went at Arenfield. I'm currently at the part where I need to infiltrate the Mayor's mansion to overhear their(Frisha and mayor son) conversation. But in the walkthrough, that's listed as Step 7. Will I miss out on everything related to Frisha before Step 7, or can I still continue her romance path afterward? I'm a bit confused.
Don't worry about only having a certain amount of affection before any step of a quest, this game never screws you over like that.

There can be times where I want to get the dumb goal of putting it a girls butt with her boyfriend asleep next to us, which can only happens before he is kicked out of the home, or wanting to get another to like me enough to get a night blowy which is her first corruption before an important part of the game starts.

I usually accomplish those goals now (I didn't always on my first dozen play throughs), but even when I don't the opportunity is always there in the game.

I actually almost always have Frisha freed from Dave before I get to the point of needing a dress (being one of my favorites I usually aim for Frisha before Kate, Umah and Athia take a bit to get unlocked). And in fact it actually makes it better, by the time I pay off her debt to Grant she has already willingly gave her virginity, so it is no longer a blackmail situation. Which in a small wat makes me as person feel less conflicted about that choice.

So nah, don't worry about advancing Frisha before you have done everything else. Same with any other LI, this game doesn't cut you off from opportunities. (Though like anything else choices have permanent consequences, but the consequences are obvious, not traps.)
 
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Ok so according to walkthrough I am not getting an option to ask her to make a dress for me. Also will the Frisha event will happening automatically in background if I have completed until step 9 or I can progress it whenever I want

In order to get the dress prompt, you need Kate step 16, or Umah step 13, or Athia step 8.

You need to mostly complete Rumah to get Umah, you need to finish Gwen and renovate your house to get Athia.

Kate is the fastest option, but isn't necessary to advance Frisha.

A dress isn't needed to complete Frisha, it is just a way to either get affection of blackmail her, that isn't need to complete her questline.

The dress stuff now is more of just she is your dress maker which you need to advance three other LI's.
 

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So are you know going to try and argue that dialogue and personality aren't an important part of what makes a lewd game sexy??? Walking on Lyvia and Katherin with Tia, and Tia wanting to fuck, with all four having dialogue about it, is something that doesn't exist anywhere else in the game.
I literally never argued anything other than a difference in dialogue doesn't suddenly make it a completely different scene. Like I said at the start of the conversation, literally around the very start when we were talking about Yasmine that I don't really care whether you like or prefer a scene a certain way. That's completely subjective I'm talking about what scenes are impossible to get without corruption that isn't just an extended version of a normal non corruption scene(like fucking Yasmine next to Giron) or just the exact same scene in a different location(Like anal in the kitchen) I 100% do not care what you like or prefer. And we literally had someone else(not me) intervine in the conversation and say that they like most of the LI personalites better without being corrupted so I'm not even sure what you're point is there.


Stop arguing strawmen. I literally did not say anything about "what makes a game sexy" the conversation was always about what scenes are completely blocked off without corruption





I deliberately said without corrupt you don't get the scene with Tia and Nyra, I specifically did not say Nyra corruption, because I know that. But Tia is there with dialogue, it is a different scene.

It's not a different scene. It's just someone else watching. I literally said that BEFORE you replied and said that was the reason why I didn't mention every threesome scene. Just like having the same scene in a different location does not making it a seperate scene having it as the same scene but with another person watching doesn't make it a seperate scene either.








If animations are all that is important to you, WHY ARE YOU ARGUING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING HONORABLE?
Because you are confused about the fact we are literally having two separate arguments even though you yourself mentioned we were having two seperate arguments at the start.


The first argument here is what counts as a new scene. You're considering a new location but the same animation to be a completely different scene while I do not and again mentioned that earlier. I also said that I do not consider extended versions like a new position to be a new scene, but rather a bonus. But that's a completely SEPERATE ARGUMENT towards the whole Paladin thing. And is mostly a response to your claim that you lose half or more than half of the scenes in the game without using isha's curse to corrupt people. I was also again only talking about NTR turned off since I agreed with you that if you are doing an ntr run it is impossible and you miss the majority of the scenes. That was when you got confused and started arguing about what I considered ntr and didn't realize I was talking about what scenes are removed from the game as options all together if you have ntr turned off. I personally don't consider sharing to be ntr but they are disabled if you turn ntr off so they're exluded here.







The second, and again completely separate argument, is what you define as being a "paladin" or not. Which I personally wouldn't even use the term Paladin, but am only using the term because someone else did but am considered a "good" route. Which to me is basically just stuff like not siding with Syfa, not siding with isha, not siding with Dasan, not siding with the orcs, not using cumwine, only doing romance routes, and not doing anything that can be akin to rape which corruption generally falls under because it removes their ability to consent. It's not about being "honorable" otherwise I wouldn't have included any Yasmine scene or katherine scenes.




Does story matter or does it not?
Story matters in the examples I gave(siding with isha, siding with syfa) it does not matter when we're talking about something minor like dialogue being different or someone watching in one version but not the other. Those are still the same scenes just different variations. Again you are confusing two different arguments.

You get Tia anal in your hut after she sees you fuck Hiba in the butt, she is only okay with that if she is corrupted. Read what I said.


Read what I said. Unless it's a complete whole new scene like Claire's outdoor sex it's not what we're talking about
Dialogue plays out different, and getting head before bed is a totally different thing then to be walking with four women by your side, pull your dick out and one just automatically drops to her knees and sucks you off. Talking and THINKING about how much it turns her on. It's different, no matter how much you need it not to be.

It's the exact same scene in a different location. New dialogue does not make it a new scene
and since you want to say Kitchen Anal doesn't count, here is the Kitchen scene I didn't count before. It's the only scene where Emily stands.

And yet you still continue to ignore the fact I said I'm not counting an extended version of a scene to be a seperate scene



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Like I said earlier I don't really care if you think those are her best scenes. I said it's not a fundamental loss without it. having sex next to Giron is nothing more than an extended version of her normal sex scenes, Yasmine and Helena scene only happens in the christmas event
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Name one.
We literally just mentioned Nyra, which you are now saying counts as a compeltely seperate scene just because Tia was there.
Why do you like dying on hills that you are clearly wrong on?

You said that more than half total amount of scenes in the ENTIRE GAME are lost without corruption and you asked me to provide a list of scenes with EVERY . And I did that and said that most characters do not have more corrupt than not corrupt scenes and that even for the majority of the LI that have corruption they usually only have one or two additional scenes and that they generally have enough non corrupt content that's it doesn't feel like a great lost, You know just like me saying that there is still enough content non ntr content that you don't feel like you're missing out if you turn it off. I never argued that some characters don't have a lot of corruption content and even mentioned how Naatasha of course doesn't have any none corruption scenes, just that the corruption scenes don't make up half the entire game unless you're including ntr scenes in that list. You acknowledged that most Li only gain one or two extra scenes for corruption but you then changed your argument to say that most LI only have one vanilla scene and one corruption scene which makes it half the game.



Now you are only listing 3 or 4 love interests out of the multiple love interests in the game and padding the amount of scenes and saying that new dialogue makes it count as a completely different scene. You've done nothing but piggy back on Tia and Luvia over and over again and ignore the vast majority of scenes in the game. We are talking about the TOTAL AMOUNT OF SCENES IN THE ENTIRE GAME if I am playing with ntr turned off.
You disputed two of Emily's scenes.
I disputed way more that two. I disputed nearly every scene except the bath threesome















Went through every scene there are around
91 non corruption scenes and 52 corruptions so Corrupt scenes make around 36%. Of the non ntr scenes of those characters only. Of those characters only Emily, Kate, Natasha, Luvia and Kathrine have more corruption scenes than non corrupt. Every other character either has the same amount as their non corrupt scenes or less. So no where near that 77% number tossed out earlier
 
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