RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Alfius]

I have a theory that you have a hidden counter counting how many times you have slept in her room. Affection and quest progression is frozen until you sleep in there enough times.

OK, so I think it's maybe simpler than that.

You can raise her relationship up to 14 by any means when she cums (On throne, oral or sex in the bed). but to raise her relationship to 15, you must have sex in her bed.

Just done it and it makes sense to me now.


But thanks, you pointed me in the right direction!

 

[Apartment817]

I'm working on my own walkthrough. Accordingly, I know the game very well, up to a certain point (I'm still working with an outdated version).

I am well aware, you say it like every other post.

But that also makes no sense to me. Granted I only know the heavy corrupted non-ntr (not counting MMF scenes, I have all of those that the MC leads), but I also play a new full playthrough at each full major update. Every time I find stuff that Chyos tweaked that isn't in the change log or walkthrough. (I stumbled on the threesome in Frisha's room months before it made it to the walkthrough.)

So why waste time writing a walkthrough for versions that nobody will ever play?

Hi guys. My outdated walkthrough of game version 0.5.3.5 is coming along well. Today I finished with Bianca and Gavina, tomorrow they will be translated into English. Penny is next on the agenda. After that it's Gwen, Sabrina and Athia's turn. Still so much to do.

I noticed a critical bug on the Bianca corruption route in my outdated version of the game. Maybe it has been fixed in the meantime. I'll ask here anyway:

My question, is this bug alread known and has it perhaps already been fixed in later versions of the game?

I am not trying to be a jerk, but the furthest I can go back into ASWS releases through Patreon is Nov 3, 2023 with v0.5.6.0d which is three major updates after the version you were writing for last January.

Gavina and Biance were totally reworked with v0.6.0.0. You are now working on a walkthrough from a version that is 8 major updates back. Ever LI has changed in some way in that time.

So the fact that you tell us you know the game so well, that you correct people wrongly that are given factual information.

Because you are working on a walkthrough for a version that is like four years old doesn't make any sense to me.

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(I just searched for posts by you with the word "outdated" I knew there would be a couple of pages.)

 

[Apartment817]

but to raise her relationship to 15, you must have sex in her bed.

I believe that is correct, but did you find what triggers that? The only correlation I have found is the number of times you have slept in her tent. I assumed causation, but it likely could be something else.

 

[spiegelbild]

OK, so I think it's maybe simpler than that.

You can raise her relationship up to 14 by any means when she cums (On throne, oral or sex in the bed). but to raise her relationship to 15, you must have sex in her bed.

Just done it and it makes sense to me now.


But thanks, you pointed me in the right direction!

To progress in her quest (whether love route or submission), you need to get to know her in between of having sex with her in her tent. This triggers some uniques dialogues where she talks about her, her past, dark elves, goblins, etc. and get you to the point of keep building a relationship with her or corrupting the bond. Also, after the third dialogue, she "shows you around" the village and you can start taking her to the lake.
In this screenshot I can take her to the lake and enter her tent freely (bond weakened) and I only had sex with her 4 times and she has 11A. So speak with her when she's in her throne and choose "Spend time with her". At night, make her cum both times (oral and vaginal) and cum inside her, this will trigger some more dialogues about her. Once you reach the bond is weak there's no more affection cap and you can get 3 points per day.

 

[Apartment817]

To progress in her quest (whether love route or submission), you need to get to know her in between of having sex with her in her tent. This triggers some uniques dialogues where she talks about her, her past, dark elves, goblins, etc. and get you to the point of keep building a relationship with her or corrupting the bond. Also, after the third dialogue, she "shows you around" the village and you can start taking her to the lake.
In this screenshot I can take her to the lake and enter her tent freely (bond weakened) and I only had sex with her 4 times and she has 11A. So speak with her when she's in her throne and choose "Spend time with her". At night, make her cum both times (oral and vaginal) and cum inside her, this will trigger some more dialogues about her. Once you reach the bond is weak there's no more affection cap and you can get 3 points per day.

Weird, that's just not my experience with her.

Another thought I have had is clicking through the oral related dialogue so fast that it doesn't register. In the experience I quoted half a page above I had her at 14 aff solely from oral and three or so throne intercourses. I tried to spend time every day, was rejected. Didn't get to have sex in her bed until a few sessions after her affection had capped at 14. (She'd cum but no raise.) Seemed to only get to have sex on the throne every other day. (It eventually stopped giving more affection as well).

Eventually I was able to have sex in her bed, and I was able to pull out the very first time. And was able to get the comb the following morning.

Next time, I will see if actually reading it does make a difference.

 

[exazubi]

I am well aware, you say it like every other post.

But that also makes no sense to me. Granted I only know the heavy corrupted non-ntr (not counting MMF scenes, I have all of those that the MC leads), but I also play a new full playthrough at each full major update. Every time I find stuff that Chyos tweaked that isn't in the change log or walkthrough. (I stumbled on the threesome in Frisha's room months before it made it to the walkthrough.)

So why waste time writing a walkthrough for versions that nobody will ever play?




I am not trying to be a jerk, but the furthest I can go back into ASWS releases through Patreon is Nov 3, 2023 with v0.5.6.0d which is three major updates after the version you were writing for last January.

Gavina and Biance were totally reworked with v0.6.0.0. You are now working on a walkthrough from a version that is 8 major updates back. Ever LI has changed in some way in that time.

So the fact that you tell us you know the game so well, that you correct people wrongly that are given factual information.

Because you are working on a walkthrough for a version that is like four years old doesn't make any sense to me.

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(I just searched for posts by you with the word "outdated" I knew there would be a couple of pages.)

Thank you very much, I take note of the criticism.

Yes, indeed I'm behind schedule. There's real life, and next, writing a walkthrough takes much longer than playing a game. Especially since I play ALL the routes and try out every single option. That's incredibly difficult, because Chyo's game is complex. Eventually I'll be done with the old stuff and can dive into the "new." By then I'll have a lot of prior knowledge and immediately notice the new things on known routes. This is much faster, than playing them completely from the beginning.

I don't expect you to understand that. But feel free to try a walkthrough yourself; I'd wager that 98% of people who try it by themself give up after just two love interests. Believe me, the work is enormous and time-consuming. I would actually need to work on it full-time, but that's not possible. In contrast to Chyos game, the german walkthrough I once wrote for the Steam version of MOTH, which still enjoys great popularity today (although the quality isn't all that great), was child's play.

Originally, my plans were different. But in meantime I decided to publish my walkthrough once the game is completely finished AND my walkthrough is complete and on the same stage as the game. In the meantime, I'll be reading sporadically here and helping other players as best I can.

I don't give bad advice very often, I usually say immediately that my information is not up-to-date. But to this day, my tips are still well-received by many people. There is also content that is not included in the official walkthrough.

I also keep noticing that my help is more precise than that of many others, some are as vague as the official walkthrough itself. That's why so many people are desperately asking questions because they can't get any further.

And not that much has really changed; there have just been many additions, several storylines have been continued and expanded, or even entirely new ones implemented. Which doesn't mean that old content has disappeared. There isn't a single route that has been completely rewritten.

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So, I will continue my walkthrough in due course, and I will also continue to give people tips when I can, even at the risk of not always being up-to-date.

 

[Randy Stair]

Anyone having issues with crashing? Tried with a fresh install and save as well as a save shared here, can barely get in a few seconds before I crash.

 

[spiegelbild]

Weird, that's just not my experience with her.

Another thought I have had is clicking through the oral related dialogue so fast that it doesn't register. In the experience I quoted half a page above I had her at 14 aff solely from oral and three or so throne intercourses. I tried to spend time every day, was rejected. Didn't get to have sex in her bed until a few sessions after her affection had capped at 14. (She'd cum but no raise.) Seemed to only get to have sex on the throne every other day. (It eventually stopped giving more affection as well).

Eventually I was able to have sex in her bed, and I was able to pull out the very first time. And was able to get the comb the following morning.

Next time, I will see if actually reading it does make a difference.

Maybe, having sex with her in the thorne prevents you of being able to have sex with her in the tent, because it's seems to be true the other way around; if you have sex in the tent, next day she won't be "in the mood" to have sex in the throne, even at max affection. And it seems to be important to have sex with her in the tent because it triggers unique dialogues that progress the relationship.
I actually trigger the sex scene in her tent, the second time I sleept there. After the first night, I spent time with her in the throne (didn't have sex, just talk), and at midnight (2nd night) I had sex with her after making her cum.

 

[Apartment817]

But feel free to try a walkthrough yourself;

Why? I don't see the one Chyos provides as deficient enough to need another. Yes, not everything is included, but it does seem to eventually work it's way in. But I don't find the walkthrough lacking in anyway. So no interest in doing one...

I just don't understand why the next time you play you don't play the most current version. How would that negatively effect your walkthrough? Anything in the game now that doesn't match what is in your walkthrough, means a fault in your walkthrough.

Any glitches between your walkthrough and the current game are parts of your walkthrough that need changed.

But anything new you add to the walkthrough will match with what is currently in the game.

Do what you want to with your time, that isn't my business. But if given the choice when writing a report, I would rather write on the most current information not the past that is no longer in the present.

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Just one example, the monastery Syfa path, it changed with v0.6.0.0 you can physically read the changes made in the walkthrough, you can tell them when you play. It plays out differently.

What do you gain by still playing and writing about v0.5.3.0? When a lot of it will have to be thrown out? You won't even catch all the errors. Writers need editors and proofreaders for a reason. Why deliberately make the editing more work?

What do you gain by playing an old version?

 

[Apartment817]

Maybe, having sex with her in the thorne prevents you of being able to have sex with her in the tent, because it's seems to be true the other way around; if you have sex in the tent, next day she won't be "on the mood" to have sex in the throne, even at max affection. And it seems to be important to have sex with her in the tent because it triggers unique dialogues that progress the relationship.
I actually trigger the sex scene in her tent, the second time I sleep there. After the first night, I spent time with her in the throne (didn't have sex, just talk), and at midnight (2nd night) I had sex with her after making her cum.

That makes a lot of sense.

 

[Alan1603]

is it melissa bugged? so situation two bugs first requirement for cum inside should be 10 corruption but when replay again with older save now it request 14, second bug it duplicate with relics it giving two times i think problem might be when you asking next day about where exactly located or might be because i duplicate with bianca tainted dawnbreaker

 

[ilsc69]

I am well aware, you say it like every other post.

But that also makes no sense to me. Granted I only know the heavy corrupted non-ntr (not counting MMF scenes, I have all of those that the MC leads), but I also play a new full playthrough at each full major update. Every time I find stuff that Chyos tweaked that isn't in the change log or walkthrough. (I stumbled on the threesome in Frisha's room months before it made it to the walkthrough.)

So why waste time writing a walkthrough for versions that nobody will ever play?




I am not trying to be a jerk, but the furthest I can go back into ASWS releases through Patreon is Nov 3, 2023 with v0.5.6.0d which is three major updates after the version you were writing for last January.

Gavina and Biance were totally reworked with v0.6.0.0. You are now working on a walkthrough from a version that is 8 major updates back. Ever LI has changed in some way in that time.

So the fact that you tell us you know the game so well, that you correct people wrongly that are given factual information.

Because you are working on a walkthrough for a version that is like four years old doesn't make any sense to me.

-------

(I just searched for posts by you with the word "outdated" I knew there would be a couple of pages.)

Thank you very much, I take note of the criticism.

Yes, indeed I'm behind schedule. There's real life, and next, writing a walkthrough takes much longer than playing a game. Especially since I play ALL the routes and try out every single option. That's incredibly difficult, because Chyo's game is complex. Eventually I'll be done with the old stuff and can dive into the "new." By then I'll have a lot of prior knowledge and immediately notice the new things on known routes. This is much faster, than playing them completely from the beginning.

I don't expect you to understand that. But feel free to try a walkthrough yourself; I'd wager that 98% of people who try it by themself give up after just two love interests. Believe me, the work is enormous and time-consuming. I would actually need to work on it full-time, but that's not possible. In contrast to Chyos game, the german walkthrough I once wrote for the Steam version of MOTH, which still enjoys great popularity today (although the quality isn't all that great), was child's play.

Originally, my plans were different. But in meantime I decided to publish my walkthrough once the game is completely finished AND my walkthrough is complete and on the same stage as the game. In the meantime, I'll be reading sporadically here and helping other players as best I can.

I don't give bad advice very often, I usually say immediately that my information is not up-to-date. But to this day, my tips are still well-received by many people. There is also content that is not included in the official walkthrough.

I also keep noticing that my help is more precise than that of many others, some are as vague as the official walkthrough itself. That's why so many people are desperately asking questions because they can't get any further.

And not that much has really changed; there have just been many additions, several storylines have been continued and expanded, or even entirely new ones implemented. Which doesn't mean that old content has disappeared. There isn't a single route that has been completely rewritten.

--

So, I will continue my walkthrough in due course, and I will also continue to give people tips when I can, even at the risk of not always being up-to-date.

Why? I don't see the one Chyos provides as deficient enough to need another. Yes, not everything is included, but it does seem to eventually work it's way in. But I don't find the walkthrough lacking in anyway. So no interest in doing one...

I just don't understand why the next time you play you don't play the most current version. How would that negatively effect your walkthrough? Anything in the game now that doesn't match what is in your walkthrough, means a fault in your walkthrough.

Any glitches between your walkthrough and the current game are parts of your walkthrough that need changed.

But anything new you add to the walkthrough will match with what is currently in the game.

Do what you want to with your time, that isn't my business. But if given the choice when writing a report, I would rather write on the most current information not the past that is no longer in the present.

---

Just one example, the monastery Syfa path, it changed with v0.6.0.0 you can physically read the changes made in the walkthrough, you can tell them when you play. It plays out differently.

What do you gain by still playing and writing about v0.5.3.0? When a lot of it will have to be thrown out? You won't even catch all the errors. Writers need editors and proofreaders for a reason. Why deliberately make the editing more work?

What do you gain by playing an old version?

yeah I also stumbled upon Frisha and Emily threesome by chance. And also for Katie and Arianna as well. And Verena watching Arianna having sex with me as well when those updates came but was not yet in walkthrough. Chyos leaves many hints in such things without walkthrough. But his walkthrough have always been enough for me except once or twice game glitching and things went missing due to bugs.

I have always played NTR off but my saved games got glitched between version and katie went to inn owner forgot the fuckers name. I hated it. That happened around 5.9 release. I usually played all the content when new releases came in last 3 years but when that save stuff happened I stopped.

Now wanting to start again.

I am not starting a fight but I hate NTR as much as I hate Satan because it's satan's work. I am a muslim after all. I can have upto 4 wives so I want harem even in real life. But what can I do, I want women who are as kinky as me and then 4 of them to agree etc to have it like that. But I won't leave them ever, won't ever look at other women apart from those 4. I have only eyes for my wives if I am to ever marry them but that's just part of the fate of your life I guess.


I don't understand logic of getting cucked ever. It's like grapes are sour because you can't have them. Control the women or leave them. Being cucked is not a relationship, you are just too weak to have them and someone else have her in front of you. OR maybe you are those masochistics who want to get hurt for no reasons. Either way you are weak in the mind to be like that.

 

[ShamusShame]

I seem to be having trouble triggering Araiannas anal scene in her house, I've already done it several times in her other form but she still cuts me off while in her bedroom. I've got her corruption pretty high and I have her mother watching but I can't seem to get it to go further then that, any advice?

 

[Apartment817]

I seem to be having trouble triggering Araiannas anal scene in her house, I've already done it several times in her other form but she still cuts me off while in her bedroom. I've got her corruption pretty high and I have her mother watching but I can't seem to get it to go further then that, any advice?

Reverse cowgirl, finger her butt on several different nights. Eventually she will allow Anal. First time anal she sees her mom, then second night of anal she will follow the MC to Verena's room.

 

[sparrow0812]

uhh.. i don't understand why she's dressed like that ?? I just went to rescue her from Darkholt and haven't done her Rumah quest, so why is she wearing the Rumah dress?

 

[Apartment817]

uhh.. i don't understand why she's dressed like that ?? I just went to rescue her from Darkholt and haven't done her Rumah quest, so why is she wearing the Rumah dress?
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That is her cultist stole her clothes and gave her rags to wear outfit.

She doesn't wear a top in Rumah, and wears body paint.



(I think the reasoning behind what I named her is obvious, ;-) )

 

[sparrow0812]

During Arianna's transformation, she get's pregnant if the MC have sex with her in the forest, so is there any story progression regarding that? In my case, it says that she is pregnant or will there be consequences?

 

[a_bored_guy]

During Arianna's transformation, she get's pregnant if the MC have sex with her in the forest, so is there any story progression regarding that? In my case, it says that she is pregnant or will there be consequences?
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For the time being: no, nothing will come from it, until her story arc is completed, she wont be able to give birth (and that is tied with the cult storyline, so it'll be a while until then)

 

[Themage9999]

Hello! I'm stuck at trouble with goblisnn quest, snikka doesn't show up. What can i do?

 

[BakiSandro]

So far, the developer has clearly put a lot of heart and soul into the game. The stories are quite good, there are many LIs who are very different in nature, there's something for everyone, and also many options, even if you're into NTR and sharing. All in all, it's well thought out and executed. It doesn't look to me like he's losing interest.

Kirlic should be particularly interesting, as it may well be the capital of King Eric's kingdom, as far as I can interpret from the ingame dialogues. The city not only has a university, but Eric's throne is also nearby, which means there might even be a castle there. This suggests that the city is quite large, certainly larger than sleepy Arenfields. Furthermore, there are many LIs who have some sort of business there. This means that not only will many existing storylines continue, but we will also get to know many new faces, including guaranteed to be several new love interests.

For my part, I'm especially looking forward to the continuation of Liandra's storyline, where I still haven't been able to decide on my personal canon. I'm curious to find out who this Mirko, her boyfriend, is. And I'm excited about the many possibilities of what I can do now. Can I get Liandra and Mirko back together? Will I break Mirko's heart and allow Dave to bang, impregnate, and marry her (I look forward to these opportunities, which have political implications), or will I do it myself? And into whose other hands can I place Mirko? Could I perhaps make Mira appealing to him?

Theoretically, the possibilities are endless. And Liandra is just one Li of many. I'm really curious to see what the developer has come up with. But from what I've seen of him so far, we certainly won't be disappointed.

However, we also need to be prepared for many updates until the Kirlic content is finished. I don't think one update will be enough to fully utilize all the possibilities.

Well, the game is quite good and I definitely will wait and anticipate it's finish line. I just hope that this developer doesn't burned out and abandoned it before its finished, like other great potential games in this forum.

Well OOT, is there any games that similar to this game, except other classic rpgm (Treasure of Nadia etc)?