RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[ilsc69]

So Imawyn dance is only for NTR only? I can't get Tia to play drums she is just dancing naked at the party.

I thought about Lyvia new armour, I got lyvia new armour after revealing her ass to mercs but her running around almost naked. Sticking to normal armour route.Don't like showing off my women like that. Verena is already near the limits for that.

Edit: No mercs at the camp during party.

 

[Apartment817]

You are still missing my point. You still can get 4 people apart from those two if I kick those two out because of Gwen route as well. Sabrina is out and so is Athia. I can go after now Heather and Natasha, or any other 2 people who don't require anyone else.

House renovations can't be done without Emily or Penny route? I remember Chyos himself saying he removed that limit from the game after forced Emily route the first time it was introduced for house renovations and that's why it's not even completed yet to it's full extent.

Hmmm maybe we get to meet Sabrina after Kirlic without going back to Gwen, since she is from the university etc. One way or the other Athia is going to be in the game even if you don't go back to Gwen. She will find someone else perhaps for the ritual.

MC's choices are in your hands. Make it whatever you want. MC is a blank drunk canvas for you to paint the story with.

Oh and about no help from Tia killing the plague fiends is no issue. I over leveled to kill them before by completing other simple quests before as well. I once did a run without Tia in my party at all. Especially after getting those weapon talent you can use more weapons yourself directly as well as indicated in the game to counter enemies with their weakness.

You cut the available content down to about three hours of game play. No one is playing ASWS that way, not even you the one that is arguing that it is possible to be a pure paladin in ASWS.

 

[Alan1603]

I love this game, but the MC is a slut. Pretending otherwise is just wrong. It is impossible to play this game and not be dishonest to multiple woman.

based

 

[ilsc69]

You cut the available content down to about three hours of game play. No one is playing ASWS that way, not even you the one that is arguing that it is possible to be a pure paladin in ASWS.

What are you talking about? I have been playing this game since 2019. I have played it in parts like that when I am in the mood for it as well. I have played it that way few times that's why I am even saying that here.

 

[Apartment817]

I think Tinkerer just want to be sure to finish all the questlines without running into technical limitations, as he said there were a few years left of engine limits. It also could be related to different approaches in development which results in one game being more optimized than the other for specific stuff.

I honestly enjoy the more structured side of PQ, contrary to ASWS which starts new quest-lines left and right without finishing the old ones that are there from the start of the game. I just don't see separating dev time through so many pieces of content as practical unless the goal is to make an never ending game that will eventually get abandoned through sheer attrition which has happened many times before. It is also why I wait a longer time to replay ASWS than to replay PQ.

In terms of content quantity do we count quality as well, because PQ is surprisingly 2GB bigger than ASWS even if it is undeniable that ASWS has more content.

Except that Tinkerer can already see that he is reaching the limit, where Chyos doesn't have that concern. There are places that PQ wants to expand but can not, because there is not room for it.

I am simply wondering if it is because of the extra 200 NPC's. I don't see the CG's in PQ as a higher quality then the ones in ASWS, I don't understand where that extra 2 GB went.

I don't think there is any concern that Chyos is going to abandon ASWS.

IMO, the fact that Alice, Caleah, Ziva and Oksana have identical CG's is a negative, not a plus. A pattern that repeats throughout the game. Luthien and Liandra. Hilde, Frida and Birgette.

I love how u guys are talking about this game and PQ that are whole 2 different games, and this one u can play it how u want, u can go 1 by 1 char and finish story before u go to next, yeah they open more and more char but u dont have to focuse everything on all. u can do 1 by 1: in PQ sometimes u cant finish 1 char story because u didnt do another one. The Girl in Woods that needs dog, u cant finish her story before u finish Frya or what ever her name is. The girl from Bar u cant intrupt her dates if u havent done priestes shit and found the poisen. So plz dont compare this game to PQ, because PQ dosent have the same Game play, the same story or the same Visions. PQ has new update every 4 months give or take, this game has allmost ever month a small update and every 6 month a huge update. If u dont like been a Giggalo dont play the game

We wouldn't be able to compare them, if we didn't know both games so well. We know them well because we like them. Like Frostpaw said, we are not hurting the games feelings.

 

[Apartment817]

What are you talking about? I have been playing this game since 2019. I have played it in parts like that when I am in the mood for it as well. I have played it that way few times that's why I am even saying that here.

Paladin's don't lie to woman. If they are involved with another woman they tell each other about the other woman in his life. If Mira finds about Heather or Emily, she is hurt by that. That means if you have sex with anyone woman other than Mira, you are not being a paladin to Mira.

Same with Penny. Hell even Gwen is annoyed when she finds out about Sabrina. You can offer this Islam rule that four are okay, but the woman themselves are not okay with that. Very few of them are okay with the MC screwing around, which means if you sleep with anyone other than them, you are not a paladin.

And even if you play ASWS were you only have sex with four woman, and are not ever dishonest to any of them, you are cutting the content down to about three hours of game play.

No matter how much you have played this game, you can not deny that.

Like I said last night, I love this game, but the MC is not a paladin.

 

[Alan1603]

i can't understand if religion higher for you what you doing here and playing porn games

 

[ilsc69]

Paladin's don't lie to woman. If they are involved with another woman they tell each other about the other woman in his life. If Mira finds about Heather or Emily, she is hurt by that. That means if you have sex with anyone woman other than Mira, you are not being a paladin to Mira.

Same with Penny. Hell even Gwen is annoyed when she finds out about Sabrina. You can offer this Islam rule that four are okay, but the woman themselves are not okay with that. Very few of them are okay with the MC screwing around, which means if you sleep with anyone other than them, you are not a paladin.

And even if you play ASWS were you only have sex with four woman, and are not ever dishonest to any of them, you are cutting the content down to about three hours of game play.

No matter how much you have played this game, you can not deny that.

Like I said last night, I love this game, but the MC is not a paladin.

In Islam, you are allowed 4 marriages at same time. No one said I can't divorce anyone. They can divorce so can I because of their horrible behaviour or anything else. Of course the women must be told before hand the rule and they must be married to first to have any sexual relationship at all. And I have seen few women in real life who are okay with it and they were even christians for that matter. Heck Mormons have multiple wives more than 4 that they marry that I know of. All before hand well informed of the rule and such.

Anyway

Hmm let's see who fits that criteria in the game at the moment.


I can play Gwen's content up to till I get Athia bounded in mortal form. The moment you sided with Athia Gwen no longer acknowledges you anymore. Sort of Divorced already from her at that point.

Athia have no issue for MC to have more women, she acknowledges that part before saying she and MC is bonded together forever. Frisha have no issues. Julia have no issues. There are few others who have no issues at all for it.


And I shall repeat, you can mold the MC as much as you want. It's your choice. You can drink from Chalice to make himeven go on dark path as Chyos said in the guide even. What ever you want MC to be it is. You can steal money from every chest or not at all. It's all your choice. Doesn't mean MC is a theif for all playthroughs. Only thing that he steals directly for quests completing rest is purely choice.

Relax and enjoy the game. I am playing that playthrough less content don't worry about it. Game can be played with harem with all the women of the game too. No one is stopping you at all. You might have missed my post about Athia vsGwen route temple maybe. It's a game, not real life. But real life portion of 4 wives rule can be applied to play a run through easily too as a paladin.

Game is not even completed, so less content doesn't mean it can't be played like that. It can be just limited things that is all. It's a personal choice for run through. Relax

 

[ilsc69]

i can't understand if religion higher for you what you doing here and playing porn games

Because it's not real buddy. Just a figment of imagination. Not real people forced or anything else for that matter for you to do anything in mere art of personal space.

 

[Alan1603]

Because it's not real buddy. Just a figment of imagination. Not real people forced or anything else for that matter for you to do anything in mere art of personal space.

then why you always saying about religion

 

[Apartment817]

In Islam, you are allowed 4 marriages at same time. No one said I can't divorce anyone. They can divorce so can I because of their horrible behaviour or anything else. Of course the women must be told before hand the rule and they must be married to first to have any sexual relationship at all. And I have seen few women in real life who are okay with it and they were even christians for that matter. Heck Mormons have multiple wives more than 4 that they marry that I know of. All before hand well informed of the rule and such.

Anyway

Hmm let's see who fits that criteria in the game at the moment.


I can play Gwen's content up to till I get Athia bounded in mortal form. The moment you sided with Athia Gwen no longer acknowledges you anymore. Sort of Divorced already from her at that point.

Athia have no issue for MC to have more women, she acknowledges that part before saying she and MC is bonded together forever. Frisha have no issues. Julia have no issues. There are few others who have no issues at all for it.


And I shall repeat, you can mold the MC as much as you want. It's your choice. You can drink from Chalice to make himeven go on dark path as Chyos said in the guide even. What ever you want MC to be it is. You can steal money from every chest or not at all. It's all your choice. Doesn't mean MC is a theif for all playthroughs. Only thing that he steals directly for quests completing rest is purely choice.

Relax and enjoy the game. I am playing that playthrough less content don't worry about it. Game can be played with harem with all the women of the game too. No one is stopping you at all. You might have missed my post about Athia vsGwen route temple maybe. It's a game, not real life. But real life portion of 4 wives rule can be applied to play a run through easily too as a paladin.

Game is not even completed, so less content doesn't mean it can't be played like that. It can be just limited things that is all. It's a personal choice for run through. Relax

Hilarious that you started to make a paladin path towards four woman but then gave up half way, because even you couldn't get to your four without being dishonest in some way.

 

[ilsc69]

then why you always saying about religion

Always? Just talked about it several times in 2-3 days and it become always. Suck touchy people you are.

Hilarious that you started to make a paladin path towards four woman but then gave up half way, because even you couldn't get to your four without being dishonest in some way.

Paladin path towards 4 women and giving up halfway? When did I give up, you just pointed out that in storywise not who I want wise it's a lie to women to get those 4 specific ones due to dishonesty.

You are clearly not understanding the point. Where was the dishonest part about me?? I wrote again to account for story wise choices. The first time I wrote was personal choice which to get from game. Second time I wrote was story wise women being okay with it or not wise.

And you are calling me dishonest for no reasons what so ever.

 

[Ntrsugar]

Desert cult Reelee gan is c@ncer to humanity

 

[ilsc69]

Desert cult Reelee gan is c@ncer to humanity

Ah yes DNA viruses giving you cancer and blame it on others. Any other false blame towards me. Write it up and get in line. It's a long line when you start blaming others for no reason at all like that. Try not to bite your nails standing and waiting in it.

 

[frostpaw]

Can we keep the discussion on-topic and not bring in real-life religion, please?
Yes, it is a medieval setting with it's own lore on religion, but it is still just fantasy.
If one dude is trying to play the game as "paladin" and has fun with it, ok. Paladin is a fantasy character.
If he reports on it and others like to discuss it, that's fine, too.

BUT: please keep real-life political and religious matters or comparisons out of it.

 

[HooverHigh]

Can we keep the discussion on-topic and not bring in real-life religion, please?
Yes, it is a medieval setting with it's own lore on religion, but it is still just fantasy.
If one dude is trying to play the game as "paladin" and has fun with it, ok. Paladin is a fantasy character.
If he reports on it and others like to discuss it, that's fine, too.

BUT: please keep real-life political and religious matters or comparisons out of it.

Agree! i mean... fr tho, why is that guy still trying relate ASWS (this kind of game ESPECIALLY in this kind of site tb precise) with real life... interesting it is lmao

 

[ilsc69]

Can we keep the discussion on-topic and not bring in real-life religion, please?
Yes, it is a medieval setting with it's own lore on religion, but it is still just fantasy.
If one dude is trying to play the game as "paladin" and has fun with it, ok. Paladin is a fantasy character.
If he reports on it and others like to discuss it, that's fine, too.

BUT: please keep real-life political and religious matters or comparisons out of it.

Yup, just trying to play few runs with certain restrictions nothing wrong with that. I have played full harem runs as well.

Agree! i mean... fr tho, why is that guy still trying relate ASWS (this kind of game ESPECIALLY in this kind of site tb precise) with real life... interesting it is lmao

Relate the game with real life? It's just a fantasy story, what you do with it in your mind is anything. Relate it or not relate it, there is going to be nothing at all like real life in it.

I never said game is real. I said things in completely different way. Why people assuming so many things here. Am I not speaking simple English here!.


That I made my mc mimic the rules of 4 wives and that was it. No one is relating it to real life but you all so far because I told how I have played few runs of the game and it's amusing at this point to be honest.

 

[Silverdragon]

Except that Tinkerer can already see that he is reaching the limit, where Chyos doesn't have that concern. There are places that PQ wants to expand but can not, because there is not room for it.

I am simply wondering if it is because of the extra 200 NPC's. I don't see the CG's in PQ as a higher quality then the ones in ASWS, I don't understand where that extra 2 GB went.

I don't think there is any concern that Chyos is going to abandon ASWS.

IMO, the fact that Alice, Caleah, Ziva and Oksana have identical CG's is a negative, not a plus. A pattern that repeats throughout the game. Luthien and Liandra. Hilde, Frida and Birgette.

Wdym identical CG's? Like for the morning ritual? Or you mean same positions. Because if it is the latter, ASWS has plenty of repeats as well.

A lot of PQ size, comes from the fact that Tinkerer integrates the background in every CG while Chyos separates the background and the foreground into multiple layers. For example:

In PQ this is one big png:

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While in ASWS it is 2 smaller png's(cum, animation)+1 bigger png(reused background):

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I do think PQ has better CG overall: more detailed, better textures, more fluid. But I gues that is subjective. I think both games are great, and both approaches are good. I just don't want the same thing that happened to A Goblin's Tale, to happen to either.

Has Chyos ever mentionned the engine limitations? Maybe he found a solution for it, which is why he is not bothered.

 

[frostpaw]

Agree! i mean... fr tho, why is that guy still trying relate ASWS (this kind of game ESPECIALLY in this kind of site tb precise) with real life... interesting it is lmao

The way I read it, ilsc69 only answered to someone else, who added a religious context and tried to explain a different view of that.
But now, some users seem to make him out to, well, whatever you wrote. Mixing gaming, religion and real life.
Others read more into it. And then the discussion goes off-topic into religion and rl.

His paladin way of playing seems to me just a way to have fun with the game. If it should be discussed, then with focus about the game, not about RL or religion.

 

[Apartment817]

Wdym identical CG's? Like for the morning ritual? Or you mean same positions. Because if it is the latter, ASWS has plenty of repeats as well.

A lot of PQ size, comes from the fact that Tinkerer integrates the background in every CG while Chyos separates the background and the foreground into multiple layers. For example:

In PQ this is one big png:

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While in ASWS it is 2 smaller png's(cum, animation)+1 bigger png(reused background):

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I do think PQ has better CG overall: more detailed, better textures, more fluid. But I gues that is subjective. I think both games are great, and both approaches are good. I just don't want the same thing that happened to A Goblin's Tale, to happen to either.

Has Chyos ever mentionned the engine limitations? Maybe he found a solution for it, which is why he is not bothered.

If you go to the temple alter, no matter which of the four you pick, you are going to get the same background and same scene with each of the four models.

Same thing with Lucien's / Liandra's basement.

Same thing with Freyja's Feast in the giant camp.

At least with the temple there is some variety in the models, but with Lucien and Liandra, no difference body wise, slight change in faces, giants are also nearly identical.

Exact same location of models body, exact same loop of position order. ASWS doesn't have that.

At 10 pm in Emily's house, you get a drastically different scene, and position changes with each of the three choices. Same with Claire / Kate / Ophelia.

Same with at the fire in Rumah, Ayita, Raaisha, Hiba, Tia, Nyra, and Katherin each have different scenes. None have similarities let alone having 100% identical choreography.

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No, Chyos hasn't ever mentioned engine limitations. It's never a concern as he enters a new item into the content poll like he did a month or so ago with entering Frisha's update. Currently there are 9 known updates planned for ASWS. PQ reportedly can only have two more before the engine is capped.

Background integration may be part of it, but all four in the temple alter share the exact same background. ED shares a background with the bat breeder, giants share background at the feast and hunting lodge, vampires share cemetery scenes, goblins share backgrounds, Liandra's basement, etc.

So I am not sure the background alone explains it all, because like at the temple alter, you have like three separate backgrounds shared between four LI's. Making 4 total backgrounds.

But you also have like three or more backgrounds in each of Emily's, Frisha's and Mira's bedrooms. 12 total backgrounds.