RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Trapezio]

Ok, leaving aside overheated arguing over this kind of semantics...

does anybody know when 0.3.6.0 comes out? Did the Dev write something about it on his last Patreon post?

 

[Pervy Sensei]

The game is growing well, I really believe that Chyos has his own style, I don't understand why wanting to change something that has so many people interested in this game

I agree that the game is growing well and Chyos has a unique style that is great. What I don't understand is the hate for constructive criticism. If one observes the discord discussion for awhile, it is clear that Chyos is constantly taking feedback and suggestions, and making changes accordingly. There is even a suggestions channel in the discord for just that purpose. The introduction of the cheat menu is the most recent case-in-point of an adopted suggestion. But when he doesn't think the suggestion is a good one, he is clear about that. Chyos is a big boy, he can handle constructive feedback.

Seeing as how Chyos is such a great dev, how about anyone reading this, who isn't a patron, become a patron today to support everyone's favorite dev? We have a good group in the discord too, you should join the party. It's not hard, and just $1 a month goes a long way. You know you want to

 

[Pervy Sensei]

Ok, leaving aside overheated arguing over this kind of semantics...

does anybody know when 0.3.6.0 comes out? Did the Dev write something about it on his last Patreon post?

It was supposed to come out yesterday, but in the discord yesterday he confirmed he was unable to finish. He detailed what he accomplished, but what is left, iirc, is the dialogue for the new scenes. So any day now it is expected.

Edit: It's out now.

 

[Erectosaurus]

He said he was hoping to release it today, but that depends on how much work he has left.

 

[Superrando195]

You either have not looked close enough or it was confirmation bias. I've seen plenty of requests for cucking content in games that have nothing to do with it. It's true about the incest requests, but that's valid for pretty much every woman that appears in a game, people will ask for action with her, be it related or not (yes, even more so if they are related). And pregnancy, for many that's the natural goal for many people for relationships in general, but I didn't see anything excessive.

What you said is right on.
I've noticed a ton more cuck/ntr requests lately, literally every few threads I go into someone is asking for it.
I honestly wonder why that is though, no offense to anyone who has that sort of fetish but it does make me curious.
Btw also like the Kaname avatar, ai somnium was a good game.

 

[kinginsafnadniasidniq]

" 25.After unlocking both scenes by playing hide and seek leave Arianna and wait for 3 days, then talk to her again. She will tell you that she is under house arrest. (starts a new quest) "

I cant get this to activate tried everything...every time I talk to her only option is hide n seek or fuck. anyone help thanks

 

[frewer1123]

I think he is talking about the Kings visit and the appointment of Mayor Giron to Baron Giron.
Qtrix
You can listen in on them between 8 a.m. (if I am not mistaken... otherwise 10 a.m. should suffice) to 5:59 p.m.

How do i see the event when king is talking with Mayor.

 

[Pervy Sensei]

How do i see the event when king is talking with Mayor.

During Frisha's questline, you have to get to the point where Dave tries to kiss Frisha while you spy on them, and you have the option to stop it from happening. Once that is done, then the cutscene will happen when you visit Arenfield during the day. Page 18 of walkthrough in the OP.

 

[zARRR]

How do i see the event when king is talking with Mayor.

You have to progress with Frisha storyline

 

[Pervy Sensei]

" 25.After unlocking both scenes by playing hide and seek leave Arianna and wait for 3 days, then talk to her again. She will tell you that she is under house arrest. (starts a new quest) "

I cant get this to activate tried everything...every time I talk to her only option is hide n seek or fuck. anyone help thanks

So you completed Lucius's quest and got the strong anesthetic, and gave it to Arianna already? Then had sex with her, and then played hide and seek with her again?

 

[kinginsafnadniasidniq]

So you completed Lucius's quest and got the strong anesthetic, and gave it to Arianna already? Then had sex with her, and then played hide and seek with her again?

i bought the anestethic but chose to kiss her instead.. played hide n seek numerous times where she gets stuck n u help her out/fuck her/leave her(ntr).

 

[zARRR]

I love how this game is finally getting more and more recognition, Chyos definitely deserve this.

 

[Pervy Sensei]

i bought the anestethic but chose to kiss her instead.. played hide n seek numerous times where she gets stuck n u help her out/fuck her/leave her(ntr).

So after hide and seek, obviously you waited three days without doing anything (maybe four to be on the safe side), correct? So then are you sure the quest didn't already advance? Have you tried sneaking into her room?

 

[Evangelion-01]

i bought the anestethic but chose to kiss her instead.. played hide n seek numerous times where she gets stuck n u help her out/fuck her/leave her(ntr).

There should be an option to ask about her family before the new Quest can even start (Have Sex, Play Hide and seek, Ask about her family)

 

[Satyr90]

What I try to say

Mainly because there is a growing group that aggressivly advocate for that fetish being included into games and sometimes even demand to change the focus onto that fetish and on the otherhand a group of people that would instantly drop their most favorite game if it actually came to happen.
So consider it a war of opinions and fetishes while both sides try to apply to the rules as not kink shameing each other... so far this thread was able to keep relatively free from that as Chyos manages to deliver an equal ammount of content for both camps without favoring any

What I try to say is that most people have proven by their vote to be more interested in either furthering the main story, include new abilities (magic and crafting noteably) or just to see more content for their favorite Character.

I think you completely missed my point.

My original point was that this one specific area that this game has NTR is not being used properly. Chyos says that he uses it for punishment. That's not me saying this it is him. According to your three definitions of NTR two out of the three would require the MC to choose and the third can't require choice for it to make sense.

As an example Kate being shared with others when dating the MC. While NTR it'd make sense for that to be a choice. I guess that that'd fall under Netorase, it would depend on context but in the story the MC usually pushes her to do this. While I can't think of an example in the game if the MC would choose to steal another mans wife it be Netori. Again it'd make sense to choose that and nobody would argue.

My sole complaint is with the use of the Netorare. With Kate and Thomas, Kate and Rick, Firsha and Dave to name a few examples where the MC has to actively work in order to enact the Netorare when it should be a punishment.

Netorare: The Love interest sleeps with other men/women without the Partners consense or knowledge and either neglects him/her or is unsatisfied if with them.... eventually has the tendency of breaking the couple up... in a story you follow the view of the person that is being cheated on.

If that definition is true then the Kate and Thomas storyline doesn't make sense. The Kate and Rick gameplay doesn't make sense. The bullshit Firsha and Dave "interfere" or "Don't Interfere" completely fails any Netorare test. I'm not arguing with the outcome of the Firsha and Dave NTR storyline I just don't like that you choose it.



Here's my olive branch... You may argue that NTR isn't popular. Your correct. Truthfully I don't even like Netorare and wouldn't enjoy an entire game solely dedicated to Netorare. Personally I'd like it in to live with the consequences of my actions as the game plays out and I'm not alone in thinking this. A reviewer put it better than I could when they said "I'm no fan of NTR, but I kept my NTR switch on and I liked the tension it creates to ensure I do not mess up with the girls." I'm not alone in thinking this. You claiming that people want to see magic and abilities improved more than NTR isn't winning any arguments even though while I may not only agree with your statement because if I had to take a poll which to improve character stories/abilities/magic on one side and NTR on the other I'd choose the character stories easy. But you haven't addressed my main complaint. You just keep dismissing it because its an unpopular issue so it doesn't need to be heard. Also, our goals aren't mutually exclusive. If it's not an issue of can we get the changes but WHEN then I'm fine with waiting. After the game has been finished and then Chyos has the time to go back and do some touch ups then great I'm all for it. Going forward though he can take an effort not to do what he did with Firsha and Dave though. It looks like Penny is going to win the next poll last time I checked and if she does he may include possible NTR content for her story since he hinted at it last time with Lucius in the walkthrough. If it's some bullshit "hey do you want to get cucked and watch penny get taken advantage of by Lucius?" question I'm going to be pissed. Following sneaking around that mansion for the Firsha missions was kinda fun only to lead to that bullshit depressing "interfere" or "don't interfere".

I'm not here to cater to one specific fetish. I'm not asking for Incest, Cucking, Pregnancy, or whatever. While I may have my own preferences and fantasies, hopes for future updates like seeing more MMF content, Pregnancy content, appropriate Netorare punishment content. I'm not banging the table demanding it be done. All I did was voice my frustrations. That's it...

My sole original complaint is why in the hell is Netorare in this game a choice? Chyos put it in as a punishment. HE DID NOT ME. So why did he betray his original NTR statement?

 

[_pollux_]

ok, wtf is wrong with this game, i keep taking aim to kill the deer yet every time i fail e.e

I'm too!

 

[Deleted member 2744443]

There should be an option to ask about her family before the new Quest can even start (Have Sex, Play Hide and seek, Ask about her family)

I previously chose the sex, but the second run I chose the anesthetic, then after a few weeks went back to sex. I think I liked the second evolution better. At this point in game play, and trying to have some level of lust remain for all the dependents that need more development, like Rick's mom and Keeping the goddess happy (my opinion). Too many demanding women can wear a fellow down. You worry at what point will the dev turn her into a werewolf. Will Penny ever stop pining over her ex fiance. The drudgery of only buggery.

 

[Pervy Sensei]

I'm too!

It can get frustrating, but eventually you'll get the deer! Adding to the Hunting talent will also be a big help

 

[kinginsafnadniasidniq]

So after hide and seek, obviously you waited three days without doing anything (maybe four to be on the safe side), correct? So then are you sure the quest didn't already advance? Have you tried sneaking into her room?

There should be an option to ask about her family before the new Quest can even start (Have Sex, Play Hide and seek, Ask about her family)

I previously chose the sex, but the second run I chose the anesthetic, then after a few weeks went back to sex. I think I liked the second evolution better. At this point in game play, and trying to have some level of lust remain for all the dependents that need more development, like Rick's mom and Keeping the goddess happy (my opinion). Too many demanding women can wear a fellow down. You worry at what point will the dev turn her into a werewolf. Will Penny ever stop pining over her ex fiance. The drudgery of only buggery.

i figured it out lol lets just say im an idiot.. i was playing on version 0.3.3.1... thanks anyways ahaha

 

[Evangelion-01]

My original point was that this one specific area that this game has NTR is not being used properly. Chyos says that he uses it for punishment. That's not me saying this it is him. According to your three definitions of NTR two out of the three would require the MC to choose and the third can't require choice for it to make sense.

I think you missed the Quote from Pervy Sensei.
Chyos said that he wants to use NTR for that... but not exclusively for that

While I can't think of an example in the game if the MC would choose to steal another mans wife it be Netori. Again it'd make sense to choose that and nobody would argue.

You do that for Yasmine (Major/Baron's wife and Verena... though that's not completly included yet... you also steal Frisha from Dave and Penny from her fiance... again not completly included yet)

A reviewer put it better than I could when they said "I'm no fan of NTR, but I kept my NTR switch on and I liked the tension it creates to ensure I do not mess up with the girls." I'm not alone in thinking this.

True as I stated before I am doing exactly the same

You just keep dismissing it because its an unpopular issue so it doesn't need to be heard.

I am not dismissing it because it's unpopular but rather since it's would require an overhaul of a mayor part of the game without makeing it feel out of place. It would likely require an entire Update entirely dedicated to NTR which again would break the balance Chyos currently maintainse.

If it's not an issue of can we get the changes but WHEN then I'm fine with waiting. After the game has been finished and then Chyos has the time to go back and do some touch ups then great I'm all for it.

Ultimately Chyos will make this decision so I am fine to see what happens... includeing it to the Poll makes me worry though since it could be a direct indicator on how many NTR versus Vanilla fans are supporting him, and maybe encourages those to "request" more NTR focused Updates

It looks like Penny is going to win the next poll last time I checked and if she does he may include possible NTR content for her story since he hinted at it last time with Lucius in the walkthrough. If it's some bullshit "hey do you want to get cucked and watch penny get taken advantage of by Lucius?"

I think it would be more approperiate that you'll watch Penny fuck with her fiance unless you make her drunk dureing dinner or something like that

I'm too!

Are you referring to the hunt in the intro or in general?