RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.5] [Chyos]

[Apartment817]

I think you need to trigger pregnancy talk with kath, after that talk with tia about that, next nyra talk about wanita ceremony for kath and then threesome in the hut

I got to the red "this isn't implemented yet" part of "Katherin's pregnancy" and had the ceremony out by the fire.

Guess I will spend some more nights in the hut.

Thanks for telling me it was there for sure. I only needed to try one more time.



Same scene can be initiated by choosing "Go To Bed" then letting Katherin put it in when she wakes you up. Tia woke up after mom came twice.

 

[volkshapo]

I got to the red "this isn't implemented yet" part of "Katherin's pregnancy" and had the ceremony out by the fire.

Guess I will spend some more nights in the hut.

Thanks for telling me it was there for sure. I only needed to try one more time.

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Same scene can be initiated by choosing "Go To Bed" then letting Katherin put it in when she wakes you up. Tia woke up after mom came twice.

Kathxlyvia and tiaxmc is triggered the second time you see kathxlyvia or what? on the first time tia was "no way, lets leave"

 

[Apartment817]

Kathxlyvia and tiaxmc is triggered the second time you see kathxlyvia or what? on the first time tia was "no way, lets leave"

Yeah she always freaks out the first time. I think it only takes twice for her to be dtf.

 

[PeteCB]

guys since this don't have on Walkthrough, i have forgot how to trigger blonde guy appear on base camp(merc camp) dead merc 1st or what?

or maybe give some advice or Walkthrough finish full scen thx

 

[volkshapo]

My only choices with that quest are either ignore it and never do it or tell him to stop going for Claire and fail the quest

Convince him by winning against him in gambling 2 times (you have to win all his money in the afternoon) - the first time you take everything he will offer you to spy on him and his wife having sex (only on ntr on mode). After the 2nd time the MC will explain why he wants to go to Kirlic and Bjorn will agree to help.

 

[Apartment817]

I'm replaying the game because a LOT of time passed since the last time I played, and this time I wanted to make sure to do things right because the first time I played, I bewitched Gurtak, making the revenge quest either fail or impossible to clear, and failed other quests too by those types of logics. My objective was to have ntr on, but only as a punishment; I never went out of my way to trigger even a single ntr scene except to watch Emily and Marcus fuck in the prologue because I didn't care. Pretending it doesn't happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen after all. I am like 120 hours into the game with 70 quests completed, and then I got to the Kirlick trip, only to discover that for some reason Bjorn is the first character in the entire game that has a sharing/NTR quest that you cannot avoid getting, which is Bjorn's obsession. My only choices with that quest are either ignore it and never do it or tell him to stop going for Claire and fail the quest (because I don't plan to hook them up even if I fail the quest)... there goes my all-quest-cleared playthrough.

Just for that, if I ever replay the game a third time, I'm turning NTR off. Instead of a punishment for failing, it just punished me for having it turned on.

You can pass the Old Boar quests without Bjorn fucking Claire.

 

[Apartment817]

My problem is that the NTR quest stays in the quest log regardless of how you finished that, because they count as separated methods and only that one has a quest to it.

What is your fear of failing the quest?

Besides, she can only take both of you at the same time if you train her to do so.

And even if you do MMF afterwards you can tell her never to do it again.

You can also tell her to fuck Bjorn whenever.

I tell her she can only fuck him when the MC is present.

It's not punishment NTR, even when you tell her to fuck him whenever. She only fucks him if you get her horny on the balcony, and then leave her alone.

It's just a MMF, it's cool if that is not your thing. You don't have to do it even with the NTR switch on.

 

[volkshapo]

What are characters that can get pregnant? I don't mean full pregnancy like kate but at least triggers? Kath, kate, ayita? I think i saw variable for verena being pregnant but i doubt

have to either do it to clear the quest or have it fail (or remain in the quest log forever).

Just treat them as quests are not implemented and they still appear in quest log. Or revenge quest you complained about i think was possible to finish by just talking to withcrafted gortak in the calans after saving kath

 

[Apartment817]

Nah, my complaint is that so far the game did a very good job of separating the content for those who wanted or didn't want to see certain content, but now a certain fetish has bled into a playthrough that didn't want that content, and I have to either do it to clear the quest or have it fail (or remain in the quest log forever).

You left the switch on though.

It takes literally ten seconds to skip the scene.

The MC fucking Claire is as much you fucking Claire, as it is Bjorn fucking Claire.

Is that really worth this level of upset?

I don't remember for sure, but I think you can pass the quest just by letting him beat off in the corner watching you. If I got that wrong, remember it takes ten seconds to skip and you can tell her never again after.

 

[Apartment817]

What are characters that can get pregnant? I don't mean full pregnancy like kate but at least triggers? Kath, kate, ayita? I think i saw variable for verena being pregnant but i doubt



Just treat them as quests are not implemented and they still appear in quest log. Or revenge quest you complained about i think was possible to finish by just talking to withcrafted gortak in the calans after saving kath

Arianna, Bridget. You didn't say Emily, but I think you know. Feel like I missing someone else, but not coming to mind.

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"Revenge" can get bugged, sometimes I have the choice to squash the beef in Madrag Kaz, sometimes I don't. I have taken to just killing him to clear the quest. I do get the desire for having a quest log that is clean as possible.

 

[Apartment817]

I actually tried the variations; you cannot avoid the quest because you receive both the quest to look for Carmen's son and the quest of Bjorn's obsession when talking to her in the day; you cannot get either at any other moment. If you start Bjorn's obsession by losing money in blackjack but then tell him no to watch you fuck Claire, the quest fails. If you let him watch, then the quest continues, and he asks to fuck her. If you tell him no and that he should move on, the quest fails again. So what I said is, I either do it or have that little thorn on my side that is a failed/incomplete quest.

My rant is because, my friend, it is forced content regardless of if it is a big deal or not. There is so much content fetish in this game that it is separated from the quest system and that you have to actively look for it or use the walkthrough to even know about it, but Chyos decided to put a quest in this one…

Edit: this obviously is only and issue if you like me want to clear all quests succesfully.

If you feel "Bjorn's Obsession" is forced on you, turn the NTR switch to off. Then no quest. Nothing is forced.

If you feel this strongly, why do you have it on????

 

[Apartment817]

Well, this actually works, so thanks. Let's just see if it doesn't break my game later. I still find it baffling that the solution is to disable the NTR option before going to the old board for the first time just so you don't get the quest.

If I were Chios, I would have simply made it a global quest, something like:

[Convincing bjorn]

"I have to find a way to convince Bjorn to help us enter Kirlic"

Objectives:

• Maybe I can ask his wife to convince him to help us. I may need to gain her trust first.
• He likes to gamble in the afternoons; maybe if I win enough times, I can convince him to help us as a payment.
• Carmen told me that bjorn had feelings for claire, maybe I can use her to convince him to help us.

Then you do one of the three, and the quest clears. I don't know why chyos made it like this, first the gambling and winning option doesn't have a quest, and even if you go for the route when carmen helps convincing him the quest about him fucking claire remains. It just kind of disappoints me that your best choice is to either go with it or turn the option off in the settings before you get there so you don't even get the quest, and it is clearly an NTR quest since toggling off NTR prevents you from getting it. This one, however, can only be avoided by changing settings, no way to avoid it in-game with the option on like the rest of the quests.

NTR exists in ASWS for people that like NTR.

Bjorn exists solely for the folks that enjoy wife swapping, and wife stealing.

The NTR switch exists for those that don't want NTR.

Going to the Old Boar with the switch on triggers quests for folks that want the NTR. That is why the quest is written the way it is. IT WASN'T A GOOF ON CHYOS'S PART, IT'S DESIGNED TO BE WIFE SWAPPING.

I don't enjoy Netorare, but I do like Netori and Netorase, so I leave the switch on.

The switch doesn't turn off Netori (Frisha, Penny, Liandra, Yasmin, etc.)

The switch does turn off Netorase (when the third is a male) and Netorare.

If MMF bothers one, there is absolutely no reason to have the switch on is ASWS. NONE.

 

[storm1105]

1. It is the way the game was intended to be played, with it as a punishment for losing and such, said by the game itself when you start a new game.

2. If I ever see an NTR scene, I would know I screwed up somewhere, so it is a clear-cut indication of "You messed up."

Ntr can only really be considered a punishment at the beginning of the game. For most stuff ntr is based on the you intentionally playing the mc as an asshole or giving other men permission to cuck the mc. The dev expects the players who arent into ntr to just turn it off so that's why you get the ntr quest automatically if you have it turned on there. Ntr on isn't "the way it's intended" except for the beginning of the game

 

[BakiSandro]

I do not know what part of Penny is "defend the castle". Rumah has a protect the fort aspect. Penny has a defeat bandits in the mill, but neither of those quite match up. Penny isn't connected to Rumah, except for Tia's lube makes the anal sex easier.

Liandra isn't connected to the Old Boar (Kirlic), Liandra will be connected to future Kirlic quests, but right now you only can get half way to Kirlic, and that's related to Kate, unconnected to Liandra.

Kate's anal gets unlocked through her dancing in the red dress for you in her room. Not connected to threesomes with Claire.

Claire doesn't get anal until the Old Boar. If I remember right anal becomes part of the standard Kate & Claire threesome in Kate's bed, but only after it is unlocked for both.

I'm sorry my english is bad, so I didn't explained it clearly.

What I mean about PENNY "defend of castle" parts is that chicken coop quest, when you can get assisted by Lyvia to defend it from bandit, so I think I gonna proceed with Lyvia quest first before that happen. Why am I corelate with Rumah quest is that I can use Lyvia as additional party member to defend Rumah village (I know that will be overpower, but fuck GURTAK). So, in order of quest: Merc > Rumah > Penny. But, is that necessary?

I want some plot progression to be interconnect with each other if possible, so that question about LIANDRA.

For Kate anal scene, I think I can't trigger it no matter what after that threesome scene with her mother. But that red dress scene is the one huh? That scene moved so cleanly (without need of anal lube) that I didn't realized that an anal sex. My bad LOL.

So, thanks for that...

 

[Apartment817]

1. It is the way the game was intended to be played, with it as a punishment for losing and such, said by the game itself when you start a new game.

2. If I ever see an NTR scene, I would know I screwed up somewhere, so it is a clear-cut indication of "You messed up."

3. Puts pressure on you to not screw up.

Nope, I am not sure why folks got that idea, but that is not how NTR works in ASWS.

The player has to try really hard, like really really intentionally bad to ever get any "punishment" NTR.

Chyos talked about NTR being a punishment, but he meant it in a narrative sense, not being good enough to win a battle.

There is a reason why it's right next "Virgin Blood" and "auto-save" it's a preference thing.

Not a difficulty level.

Want proof? Show me a NTR punishment scene in ASWS that isn't extremely easily avoidable even for first time players that don't have RPG experience.

 

[Apartment817]

I'm sorry my english is bad, so I didn't explained it clearly.

What I mean about PENNY "defend of castle" parts is that chicken coop quest, when you can get assisted by Lyvia to defend it from bandit, so I think I gonna proceed with Lyvia quest first before that happen. Why am I corelate with Rumah quest is that I can use Lyvia as additional party member to defend Rumah village (I know that will be overpower, but fuck GURTAK). So, in order of quest: Merc > Rumah > Penny. But, is that necessary?

I want some plot progression to be interconnect with each other if possible, so that question about LIANDRA.

For Kate anal scene, I think I can't trigger it no matter what after that threesome scene with her mother. But that red dress scene is the one huh? That scene moved so cleanly (without need of anal lube) that I didn't realized that an anal sex. My bad LOL.

So, thanks for that...

Lyvia can't go to Rumah, she temporary leaves the party whenever you get close.

I usually do Penny up to kicking Henry out, interchanged with Rumah stuff, Merc camp last.

Having Lyvia in the party when clearing out Bandits helps, but not necessary at all.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

If you feel "Bjorn's Obsession" is forced on you, turn the NTR switch to off. Then no quest. Nothing is forced.

If you feel this strongly, why do you have it on????

He already clarified in his very 1st comment what the issue was.

My only choices with that quest are either ignore it and never do it or tell him to stop going for Claire and fail the quest (because I don't plan to hook them up even if I fail the quest)... there goes my all-quest-cleared playthrough.

He doesn't want to fail it for the reason above. He doesn't want to do it because he's not into that type of content. And he doesn't want it to stay in the quest log, also for the reason above. If I'm reading correctly. Seems his issue is that instead of the Bjorn bit being part of the main quest as an option. It's its own separate quest that he feels he can't do and now he's stuck.

It's a completionist thing.

 

[Ntrsugar]

If Tia is in Rumah, or if Katherin starts masturbating before Tia wakes you up, you can "confront" Katherine at fuck her in her bed while Tia sleeps in hers.

You can get a threesome with Katherin and Lyvia at dinner or after unlocking that at noon (with Tia in Rumah).

If Tia is used to you fucking Katherin, at noon walking in on Katherin and Lyvia in one bed will have the MC and Tia fuck in the other.

I don't think there is a Katherin and Tia threesome in Rumah yet, but there clearly will be eventually. (The make Katherin cum option is there to trigger it.)

But the only Tia and Katherin threesome is the one on the floor.

I hope we can get Katherine pregnant before Tia.

 

[volkshapo]

Maybe

I hope we can get Katherine pregnant before Tia.

It's already possible and Tia is insecure about that and panicking that she can't get pregnant. If you mean proper pregnance like Kate - then idk

 

[Ntrsugar]

Maybe

It's already possible and Tia is insecure about that and panicking that she can't get pregnant. If you mean proper pregnance like Kate - then idk

OoO, haven't played in a while.
As for real pregnancies I hope that too , would be hot if there is pregnant sex in future.