Ren'Py A Town Uncovered [v0.53a Alpha] [GeeSeki]

[Grimtown]

here try this

Will try that later, thanks!

Okay, now is later, rayminator . Found the time to have a look at the game today. I tried your rpy file, unfortunately still no dev mode. I can get the console, but it seems GeeSeki did something to disable dev mode.
When I enter config.developer = True in the console I get an exeption "Screen _developer is not known". Doesn't really matter, still a bit annoying by the dev. This is the 2nd Ren'Py game I've ever played with that nonsense.

 

[HillDweller]

Checked out the new stuff. I’m actually content with the update. Well, conditionally content. It is a decent amount of new content for an update, but the fact that it took 4 months is a bit bad. Or technically, there were a bit under 3 months of little to no progress and then one month of actually working on the update… In any case: It’s a decent chunk of content for a single update, if you ignore how long it took to get it out.

There is absolutely no new sex scenes (though there is some lewd language). However, the plot actually thickens, pieces are prepared for the endgame and the story progression makes much more sense than I’ve seen in most other games on this site.

If you don’t care about the story too much (or don’t want endless scenes with incomplete art), I still recommend waiting some time. While there is a lot of new text and the beginning of a new route (introducing Lashley’s sister), not much is actually happening. Also, the current version introduced some new and exciting bugs for me, so you might want to hold back anyway…

Speaking of:
They finally figured out how to actually trigger the "next chapter" event for the living room scene of the MomxSis route. Finally, you can actually go to bed and the chapter advances! Now I just need to figure out why Geeseki decided to introduce a (presumably new) chapter "2.5" which tells you to go into the hallways but no place in the house triggers anything… Also, the map is locked… Also also, this cannot be fixed by the timetravel.exe function because that one only advances routes in 1-chapter increments. Which means that if you try it, you are just stuck on chapter 3.5 instead of 2.5 with no way out. (Without cheats you also cannot manually set the chapter to undo your attempted fix.)

The MomxSis route was impossible for me anyway, because I’m stuck on the sister route. I decided to set the Sister route to being half-way done for this replay. Turns out the game starts you off with a relationship of 0 if you do that… and since there are no repeatable scenes to grind points with her, you cannot make up that deficit! Edit: Just remember the gift system. After some trial and error I figured out that you can gift her all three pairs of socks and the lollipop to increase your relationship. I can already see the new section of the FAQ I’ll eventually make for those insane enough to play without cheats…

Anyway, I wonder if they will ever figure out how to fix the MomxSis route. It’s been 4 months now and they managed to have the route fail in 4 distinctive way so far. (Random teleport was the first, I think. Then the softlock version, then being stuck without the softlock potential and now you are stuck with a slight delay…)

thanks for taking the time to parse the changes and test stuff.
I like this game in general, am anxiously awaiting real new content (which this update ain't) and appreciate not having to do all this digging myself.
Now to hurry up and wait some more months

 

[ki777]

¿Algún enlace de mega descarga para mac que funcione? por favor, realmente lo agradecería

 

[RoughlySpecific]

Wouldn't seeing your sister in sexual situations with others be beyond the border and firmly in ntr (ntr: Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.) territory? She's a love interest involved with someone other than MC.

I’d say it’s about the difference between NTR and swinging/polyamourous/open relationships. If everyone has sex with everyone, is it a world of NTR?

In the quote you are also ignoring the "designed to cause jealousy" part of the definition.

The sister isn’t sucking stranger’s dicks to cause jealously, she is doing it because she likes it. Likewise, the MC is not jealous of it. Same with the MomxSis scenes or the implied JanexEffi content. It’s the opposite, rather. I’m fairly sure Effi mentioning that Jane and John both taste the same is meant to be sexy.

It gets further into NTR territory with Hitomi’s scene, but even there, I’m not sure the scene is supposed to evoke jealousy. Hitomi is not a girlfriend. She’s just a random sexual encounter. At most she is a sexfriend. As far as I recall it is also less of a jealous "That’s my girl!" reaction and more of a extreme reaction to the unexpected situation. ("She deserves better!" is how the MC phrases if I recall correctly.)

I’d personally categorize the scene with the mother as NTR, because the following dialogue has some strong themes of humiliation. It’s a sex scene intentionally made to make the players feel bad and the MC feels betrayed. But even then, it is a bit ridiculous to call a wife having sex with her husband NTR. If anything, you, the MC, are cuckolding the father.

At least for me, the formula goes like this:
1) The Cuck has to feel entitled to the Stolen Lover. (Cannot just be a random person.)
2) The scenario has to feel like a betrayal of their relationship. (Cannot just find it hot and approve or be indifferent.)

It’s all about expectations. If you are the 20th person who fucks the town slut, it’s not NTR if there is a number 21. If you go to a prostitute, that’s also not NTR. If you go wife-swapping, that’s also not NTR. If you randomly fuck someone at the nude beach, it’s not NTR if that person then also fucks someone else. If you and your sister both have fun at the glory hole and then also (later) have sex with each other and each get another sex buddy, that’s not NTR. It’s just people having sex.

Of course that’s just my interpretation. It’s controversial enough that I decided to include examples in the FAQ instead of saying it definitely is or isn’t NTR.

 

[rayminator]

Okay, now is later, rayminator . Found the time to have a look at the game today. I tried your rpy file, unfortunately still no dev mode. I can get the console, but it seems GeeSeki did something to disable dev mode.
When I enter config.developer = True in the console I get an exeption "Screen _developer is not known". Doesn't really matter, still a bit annoying by the dev. This is the 2nd Ren'Py game I've ever played with that nonsense.

my cheat enabler doesn't enable the console or the developer at all

all it does is enable the cheat menu only

 

[Grimtown]

my cheat enabler doesn't enable the console or the developer at all

all it does is enable the cheat menu only

I know, I was referring to our quoted conversation in October when you posted an unren-dev.rpy trying to fix my problem.

In the quote you are also ignoring the "designed to cause jealousy" part of the definition.

The sister isn’t sucking stranger’s dicks to cause jealously, she is doing it because she likes it. Likewise, the MC is not jealous of it.

Well, following the f95 definition of "designed to cause jealousy" it is clear the jealousy is to be evoked in the player, not the MC. The dev controls what the MC feels, he doesn't have to design it, he just writes and renders it. Whether the LI in question wants to create jealousy doesn't even matter. You wrote yourself:

I’d personally categorize the scene with the mother as NTR (...) It’s a sex scene intentionally made to make the players feel bad and the MC feels betrayed.

"The MC feels betrayed" is probably a (paraphrased) writen line. The "to make the players feel bad" is akin the "designed to cause jealousy" part of the ntr definition.

 

[lokiq]

Full save pls ?

 

[ScottyLQ]

How do you raise your stats in this game? I study and I do the fight club thing but all that raises is your maximum points... How do I raise the actual stats?

 

[RoughlySpecific]

Well, following the f95 definition of "designed to cause jealousy" it is clear the jealousy is to be evoked in the player, not the MC. The dev controls what the MC feels, he doesn't have to design it, he just writes and renders it. Whether the LI in question wants to create jealousy doesn't even matter. You wrote yourself:

"The MC feels betrayed" is probably a (paraphrased) written line. The "to make the players feel bad" is akin the "designed to cause jealousy" part of the ntr definition.

Well, I have no idea what an "LI" is but whether a scene is intended to cause jealousy in the player as opposed to the character is extremely subjective. If anything, I’d think that the players are intended to feel less jealousy than the character both in general (because they are just watching a scene) and in these particular scenes. After all, the players a playing the game which was advertised to have a sex world. They didn’t expect the character to be celibate, did they?

Full save pls ?

Pointless for this game. There is only very limited replay functionality for the scenes, so using a full save just means you get nearly no content. If you want to skip the early game, just click the option that says you have already played a previous version then select from which part you want to continue.

How do you raise your stats in this game? I study and I do the fight club thing but all that raises is your maximum points... How do I raise the actual stats?

You automatically regenerate some points in each stat every day. 1 is the default. (Edit: you need to have at least the first totem. It’s free, just talk to Grundle Sam.) The totems from the mall increase this to a maximum of 5 per day.

 

[ScottyLQ]

You automatically regenerate some points in each stat every day. 1 is the default. The totems from the mall increase this to a maximum of 5 per day.

I still dont' get it though. My points were exactly 1 intelligence (red point) that I got from the teacher's private tutoring and training wouldn't gain me any points in anything. I bought a totem and it increased all my points but they still don't increase from training in anything.

 

[Grimtown]

After all, the players a playing the game which was advertised to have a sex world. They didn’t expect the character to be celibate, did they?

Are we talking about sexworld sis or real world sis here? I thought real world sis was seen in the glory hole.

Well, I have no idea what an "LI" is

Love Interest or Romantic Interest.

 

[unknown78]

How do you raise your stats in this game? I study and I do the fight club thing but all that raises is your maximum points... How do I raise the actual stats?

You need to buy one of the charms at the mall. They will "recharge" your stats when you sleep.

 

[RoughlySpecific]

Are we talking about sexworld sis or real world sis here? I thought real world sis was seen in the glory hole.

Does it matter? Would it suddenly not be NTR if the same scene happened in the sex world?

I still dont' get it though. My points were exactly 1 intelligence (red point) that I got from the teacher's private tutoring and training wouldn't gain me any points in anything. I bought a totem and it increased all my points but they still don't increase from training in anything.

Training is not supposed to recharge your points.
If you have a totem (the first one should be free) and have it in your inventory, going to sleep should regenerate at least 1 point in every stat.

 

[Saber1995]

i got tired of starting over but ti seems this game wont finish anytime soon xd... been waiting so i can replay it

 

[Grimtown]

Does it matter? Would it suddenly not be NTR if the same scene happened in the sex world?

Of course. And of course it wouldn't in sexworld. It's two different people.

 

[ScottyLQ]

Training is not supposed to recharge your points.
If you have a totem (the first one should be free) and have it in your inventory, going to sleep should regenerate at least 1 point in every stat.

Thanks, I still don't understand this weird system at all, but at least I was able to progress.

I'm surprised there's so little content in the game, considering it's been in development for years. The last time I played it it had this weird parallel universe plot or something.

 

[Lolipopz]

As far as the sister is concerned, she is in the beach when it happens. Considering the status of the beach in the game (gateway between the sex world and the normal world) it might be the sex world version of the girl that you see. That's my Canon anyway (unless proven otherwise).

no i think that too!! but i thought the dev removed that scene doe

 

[Hibikiki]

So does the story actually have more art in it or are they still more focused on adding more things instead of actually finishing what they already have unfinished

 

[Layfon]

Do the 'landlady' and 'roommate' still kinda semi-cuck the MC? Cuz I stopped playing around that update. Are there even new scenes cuz IIRC it's usually every 2nd update with new scenes.

Like I say semi-cuck cause as far as I can recall from the story the MC was still in the normal non-sex crazy world and the MC was the one initiating all the sex between him and his 'landlady' and 'roommate' and having meaningful/romantic relations with them to get to the boning. And when they want to make it a threesome every scene is them ignoring the MC using him as a living dildo while they just only focus on each other. I mean they can love each other the same way the MC and them respectively love(d?) each other but it seems like they're pushing him away ignoring that if it wasn't for him fucking either of them they wouldn't have had the new love they have for each other.

It seems like it might end up like how the MC in "Sisterly Lust" had his ex-girlfriend fall out of love with him due to their female threesome partner monopolizing/convincing her to love her more.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

whats the cheatcode because its saying pumpkinspice is wrong