I have a 2070 super and I'm not even trying 8 character scenes. (that's G8, I haven't tried with G3s or combination of the two).Didn't optimise the scene, as I wanted to preserve the textures. It's also why I didn't use DOF. I have a 3060, so still pretty happy it managed the scene at all. Back when I first started doing fan art I did an 8 character scene and it wouldn't work at all without optimisation