VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

I really like how L&P can write so much and tell us so little.
Furthermore the focus areas are:

• There will be some indications of possible events coming soon or during the course of the story (depending on the decisions, of course - with "wrong" decisions you won't see those indications).
• A very beautiful and artistical scene you haven't seen yet
• You'll learn who'll be a party to the little "bonus storyline"
• You'll learn what the 2nd side job will be about

 

[Alley_Cat]

Hmmm That's quite the thought, maybe in case of a good wife ending for those who played that path.

Fortunately, I guess, in my game I care very little about the other characters that I don't know how they would end.

I guess Dylan could end up with Christine which is not so bad if not ending up with Sophia or just going to college. I doubt that as an ending he would have something with Amber but I would've also been fine with that ending only if not with Sophia.

As for Ellie, well, she is definitely not a lesbian in my game but also she doesn't get to meet Logan because in my game Sophia never got to hang out with Vicky, to begin with so whatever her ending could be, it won't be with either of them and in any "worst-case scenario" then I guess she could end up with Amber's son if the story goes there on its own since I haven't done a thing with Ellie. I do hope that even without having done anything with Ellie that she would have a good ending or going to college just like Dylan.

As for Amber's son, I don't know nor care about him and he could only be useful if he ends up with Ellie or maybe just gone along with Neil if Amber divorces him.

As for Zac? I can't imagine an ending for him, he only becomes interesting IF he has something with Alyssa but if not then...meh. As for Alyssa? the same, I don't have any real interactions with her other than the introduction and the talk regarding Aiden so, if she gets involved with Zac then great! that would be interesting to watch.

As for Emma?...hehehe, she is long gone in my game and still as a shy nerdy girl so I hope she ends up well and achieving something on her own.

Vicky and Nathalie seem to be a bit of a second-string characters to care too much about them and just being there as a source to gather up filthy or lesbian points, of course, that's just my point of view since they rarely have any presence in the game or in my game compared to Dylan & Ellie or even compared to Patricia. I don't know much or anything about Vicky other than meeting her at the gym. I hope Nathalie gets what she is looking for or working for her college and with her boyfriend and go on with their lives.

I guess those would be my endings if it doesn't get work out as I want to or if that's for the Good Wife Path.

By the way, I remember a post regarding Sophia's opinion about Bennet and Aiden and I found this, this is what she thinks of Aiden and I've already posted previously what she thinks of Bennet.

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And that's why I like that some things are open to interpretation. I like that we don't actually know if Ellie is a virgin or not. I like that she might be putting up the popularity mask. Personally I see Ellie as more like Santana from Glee. Yeah, she can be a bitch, but she only does it when she's calling BS on something. For someone like Brittany that doesn't have a filter, she can be all lovey dovey. But for other players, the interpretation will be entirely different. It make the other routes plausible. I don't want to play them, but at least I can see why other people do.

Oh, BTW, artistical isn't a word. It's just "artistic". Someone that's a patron may want to let L&P know.

 

[Existence X]

The Sam event its only if you sent dylan away?
What are the events that proceed the bikini show on this next update?
All of them less the Sam one?

 

[Old Dog]

And that's why I like that some things are open to interpretation. I like that we don't actually know if Ellie is a virgin or not. I like that she might be putting up the popularity mask. Personally I see Ellie as more like Santana from Glee. Yeah, she can be a bitch, but she only does it when she's calling BS on something. For someone like Brittany that doesn't have a filter, she can be all lovey dovey. But for other players, the interpretation will be entirely different. It make the other routes plausible. I don't want to play them, but at least I can see why other people do.

Oh, BTW, artistical isn't a word. It's just "artistic". Someone that's a patron may want to let L&P know.

When Ellie and Sophia shared a shower I am sure Ellie talked to Sophia about sex and told her not to worry as she uses a condom,it came up because Ellie wants boobs as big as Sophia's.I would need to check

 

[ewoffgnewfiwojm]

Umm, so each update takes about 3 months and covers half the playable day. At this pace, we are looking at 15 years for the rest of the 20 playable days. Does this conversation never come up in the patreon comments?

 

[Old Dog]

Umm, so each update takes about 3 months and covers half the playable day. At this pace, we are looking at 15 years for the rest of the 20 playable days. Does this conversation never come up in the patreon comments?

Short answer yes

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

And that's why I like that some things are open to interpretation. I like that we don't actually know if Ellie is a virgin or not. I like that she might be putting up the popularity mask. Personally I see Ellie as more like Santana from Glee. Yeah, she can be a bitch, but she only does it when she's calling BS on something. For someone like Brittany that doesn't have a filter, she can be all lovey dovey. But for other players, the interpretation will be entirely different. It make the other routes plausible. I don't want to play them, but at least I can see why other people do.

Oh, BTW, artistical isn't a word. It's just "artistic". Someone that's a patron may want to let L&P know.

Hahaha, when I read Santana I thought of Santana, the guitarist. I don't know who's Santana from glee and the only thing I know from glee is that someone died from that show.

Well, I'll leave the analysis of Ellie to your expertise because I don't know much about her. I know that she has a dildo so I also guess that it's a matter of perspective or interpretation if she's still a virgin, though I would've thought that she is not a virgin anymore but as I said, it's a matter of perspective and interpretation for each one to consider what's still virginity.

Well, about Ellie being a bitch, I guess that's part of the story, personally I wish I could see something between Dylan & Ellie because the rivalry it's tiring and, personally, boring. I hate sibling rivalry in stories and instead of being jerks and bitches to each other they should find ways to compromise and work things out between them instead of being at each other's necks, that's how siblings should be from my point of view and experience.

Hahaha, I don't know who's Brittany either. Yeah, I agree, making every route plausible in order for everyone to have a nice path to play and enjoy the game.

I think the "artistic" part is from Amber's son event, another lesson most likely which I will skip hehe.

 

[Old Dog]

Hahaha, when I read Santana I thought of Santana, the guitarist. I don't know who's Santana from glee and the only thing I know from glee is that someone died from that show.

Well, I'll leave the analysis of Ellie to your expertise because I don't know much about her. I know that she has a dildo so I also guess that it's a matter of perspective or interpretation if she's still a virgin, though I would've thought that she is not a virgin anymore but as I said, it's a matter of perspective and interpretation for each one to consider what's still virginity.

Well, about Ellie being a bitch, I guess that's part of the story, personally I wish I could see something between Dylan & Ellie because the rivalry it's tiring and, personally, boring. I hate sibling rivalry in stories and instead of being jerks and bitches to each other they should find ways to compromise and work things out between them instead of being at each other's necks, that's how siblings should be from my point of view and experience.

Hahaha, I don't know who's Brittany either. Yeah, I agree, making every route plausible in order for everyone to have a nice path to play and enjoy the game.

I think the "artistic" part is from Amber's son event, another lesson most likely which I will skip hehe.

I feel sad for Alley_Cat now being a fan of Glee and whoever Brittney is
Santana, the guitarist that guy can play.I am a big fan of his

 

[ewoffgnewfiwojm]

Short answer yes

And is there a long answer I could get from you or maybe an earlier post here. Thank you.

 

[Old Dog]

And is there a long answer I could get from you or maybe an earlier post here. Thank you.

The patreons,the majority, are ok with half day updates and the speed of updates..The progress with this update is faster than the other updates.Mind you thiis update is not as big as the last one and he has a lot of stuff already set up.clothes,house people.This update could be out by the end of this month but most of us think it will be April.

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

I feel sad for Alley_Cat now being a fan of Glee and whoever Brittney is
Santana, the guitarist that guy can play.I am a big fan of his

Hehehe, me too.
I agree, the guy can play and I like his songs a lot, "Oye Como Va" and "Corazon Espinado" are some that I like to listen to a lot besides "Black Magic Woman".

 

[Alley_Cat]

Hahaha, when I read Santana I thought of Santana, the guitarist. I don't know who's Santana from glee and the only thing I know from glee is that someone died from that show.

Well, I'll leave the analysis of Ellie to your expertise because I don't know much about her. I know that she has a dildo so I also guess that it's a matter of perspective or interpretation if she's still a virgin, though I would've thought that she is not a virgin anymore but as I said, it's a matter of perspective and interpretation for each one to consider what's still virginity.

Well, about Ellie being a bitch, I guess that's part of the story, personally I wish I could see something between Dylan & Ellie because the rivalry it's tiring and, personally, boring. I hate sibling rivalry in stories and instead of being jerks and bitches to each other they should find ways to compromise and work things out between them instead of being at each other's necks, that's how siblings should be from my point of view and experience.

Hahaha, I don't know who's Brittany either. Yeah, I agree, making every route plausible in order for everyone to have a nice path to play and enjoy the game.

I think the "artistic" part is from Amber's son event, another lesson most likely which I will skip hehe.

It's only worth watching Glee to the end of Season 4, but again, as a fan of Brittany, I am pretty biased. TLDR version, Brittany is batshit crazy but kinda Lovecaftian, which I'm really disappointed they didn't explore further.

 

[Jude6]

The Sam event its only if you sent dylan away?...

We don't know that for certain.
What we do know is that sending Dylan away gives you the setup for the Sam scene for the coming day - we'll see how it shakes loose when the update comes but I'm inclined to think it will just change the context/lead-up to the upcoming Sam scene.

Reasoning -
Sending Dylan away means saying NO to Aiden = a Good Wife decision
Dylan stays if Sophia Capitulates with Aiden's tasks = a Filthy Wife decision
Pursuing a relationship with Sam = a series of Filthy Wife decisions

My main playthrough has Sophia agreeing with/saying Yes to every man or woman who takes a run at her and so far I don't think I've seen any Filthy Wife paths that require you to have made Good Wife choices on another, overlapping path.

Also, I've been loving all the speculation about end-game pairings folks, good reads and good theories all.

I haven't given much thought to endings but I'm reasonably confident that L&P is going to kill off at least one important character before the game's end.
Between Neil using a date-rape drug on his friend's wife, Aiden's supposed connections to violent gangs, that time Sophia nearly got sexually assaulted in the Subway and that time Patricia maimed a guy with a deadly weapon... L&P just dances too close to serious shit to not be planning some big Third Act downer.

Also, as a Sam fan I don't think him ending up with Sophia is a good ending at all, there's a reason the last shot of The Graduate is of the two lovebirds on the back of the bus with those 'Oh god, what have we done?' looks on their faces.
Anyway we've still got Sam's flourishing music career to explore yet, there's sure to be some ditzy groupie that could catch his eye in Sophia's absence. But really, this isn't Noah's Ark, none of these characters need to be paired off with anyone - They're Strong, Independent Women (and men) who DON'T need no Man (or woman)

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

There will be some indications of possible events coming soon or during the course of the story (depending on the decisions, of course - with "wrong" decisions you won't see those indications).

that's why I asked for a more precise walktrough, just to avoid losing something

 

[Mathew joe]

I saw this in youtube but i didnt come across such a scene..can anyone tell me when is this scene.. I followed filthy route.. Is it in good wife route?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I saw this in youtube but i didnt come across such a scene..can anyone tell me when is this scene.. I followed filthy route.. Is it in good wife route?

there is no game

is fan art, i think

 

[wynlard]

I saw this in youtube but i didnt come across such a scene..can anyone tell me when is this scene.. I followed filthy route.. Is it in good wife route?

This photo is a fanart, video is probably a clickbait, not probably absolutely.

 

[roro]

Umm, so each update takes about 3 months and covers half the playable day. At this pace, we are looking at 15 years for the rest of the 20 playable days. Does this conversation never come up in the patreon comments?

Simple math:
12 months in a year, that's 4*3 months, so if each update is 0.5 playable day and takes 3 months to produce, we'll get 2 playable days in a year. That means 10 years for the game's completion, not 15.
But, it doesn't take 3 months for a 0.5 playable day, more like 2 months...

 

[AlienEDM]

I saw this in youtube but i didnt come across such a scene..can anyone tell me when is this scene.. I followed filthy route.. Is it in good wife route?

Sorry! This is not a image from the next update, this is a fan art image maded by lockhear.
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-fan-art.15218/page-36

 

[Jude6]

Umm, so each update takes about 3 months and covers half the playable day. At this pace, we are looking at 15 years for the rest of the 20 playable days. Does this conversation never come up in the patreon comments?

To give you more of an idea about the mood of Patrons, there are a few paying patrons who get a bit snarky with L&P about how long the updates take, sometimes other patrons jump in and defend his process but generally they are ignored until they run out of steam.

Speaking personally, I've accepted the reality of how long it's likely to take L&P to finish the game, I don't lose anything by waiting and I've come to enjoy the pace of the story.
However, I do have hope for the day he officially crosses his final Patreon goal and can afford to reorganize his work/school situation and overhaul his development process to put out faster and/or larger updates.