VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

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This is at the start of the Sophia visiting Liam at work

 

[Maviarab]

I do not know much about law so this is only my opinion you can use the same character models as L&P did not actually create them he brought them as for the names and the title of the VN that could be a different matter, and also each country has different laws too.

Spot on. 'D'...Sophia...their rights are owned ultimately by the creator and seller. Unless a VN maker actually sculpts his own characters in Zbrush and then uses those in say Daz...then nothing they can do if a hundred more VN's use the same character model.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

It's a pretty sound bet that L&P will read this thread at some point. This update has garnered a lot of negative comments & the review page has sprouted a barrage of 1 & 2 star ratings. Whilst it's true that many of the critics seem to appear just to distribute facepalms & hurl insults, there is a grain of truth in some of what they say. [Even though it's obvious some of them just want fap fodder]. I guessed months ago that the "third of a day" update idea would end up just where it has, (I just didn't say anything) & I've already commented several times on the number of characters & storylines. There are two fixes to try & get this tale back on track, namely faster updates & writing out some characters. Last update I said I thought the game was a bit out of balance but now it's wobbling badly. I really want this project to succeed. There's the potential for this to be something exceptional, a world beater & it's not too late for this to happen but something needs to change.

Now that the initial onslaught of shit posters has died down, I think everyone who is left wants this game to be exceptional. We all understand that AWAM is not trying to be a typical porn game, but some of us worry that it's losing its way. If L&P does read this thread, I hope he's able to sift through all the bad-faith arguments and absorb the good-faith critiques because I honestly think that would help the game.

With 48+ hours since release, how is his Patreon page holding up? I know that I asked earlier and was told that he wasn't getting much feedback, but has that changed? I know that his patrons could be very defensive, but I remember there being discussions about the game that weren't purely positive.

 

[Ape Drape]

Does Sophia manage to score any sausage this update?

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

You seen quite reasonable yourself. So, in your opinion, do you think it's worth to support this dev?
I'm really want to know since i've been planning to support him, but still don't know if it's worth it.

I really like the writing in some scenes (like the Ellie shower ones, those are golden), but i feel that we are getting more and more plots that are either meaningless for now or that only serves to slow down the plot. I really like the game thought, so that's why i still don't know if pledging is worth or not.

I personally would NOT support this Dev on Patreon. Not for the amount of content he is currently producing.

 

[Old Dog]

Now that the initial onslaught of shit posters has died down, I think everyone who is left wants this game to be exceptional. We all understand that AWAM is not trying to be a typical porn game, but some of us worry that it's losing its way. If L&P does read this thread, I hope he's able to sift through all the bad-faith arguments and absorb the good-faith critiques because I honestly think that would help the game.

With 48+ hours since release, how is his Patreon page holding up? I know that I asked earlier and was told that he wasn't getting much feedback, but has that changed? I know that his patrons could be very defensive, but I remember there being discussions about the game that weren't purely positive.

I have just checked the patrons number and he has lost maybe 4 patrons since the update came out but this is the norm after an update

 

[gilgamesh9]

the hypocrites wont put an ntr tag on this game like they should but they will delete your post claiming trolling...(not the first time) when it was an honest response but i forget the new era we are in where people cant handle the truth

 

[Alley_Cat]

I thank you for your opinion nonetheless. I rarely spend too much money on developers since i usually go for the most basics supports, but i like to do it for the sake of helping out with something i like.

I thought the same as you after playing the last few updates (i like to hold my gameplay until i got a lot of content to playthrough), and i'm split. The game is still good overall and the renders quality got quite the upgrade (i can appreciate the effort in that area), but in terms of content and writing, i feel like the game hit a wall with so many new plots and characters being added. It felt a bit rushed, especially Vicky's event.

I will follow your advice and hold for now, maybe the next update will be more consistent plotwise. But i will probably support someday, mostly because of the lesbian route, it's everything i ever wanted in that regard. This site really need good, hot lesbian plots like this~

The lesbian route is unlikely to have another event for another 5-6 months. The next event I'm looking forward to is the Nathalie event in the v0.15 update, so may be the consequences of Sophia spying on her masturbating.

Wouldn't at all be surprised though if we see people complaining about the possibility of v0.130 being "another lesbian update"

 

[jas13]

When Sophia will get laid estimation based on the dev progression until now , characters number and story .

1 year : Story and characters intro

2 years :Sophia is more comfortable with her body starting with lesbian temptation .

3 years : Sophia started to show her body a little bit (upper body) with more lesbian temptation with some touching.

4 years :Sophia started to show her body more (lower part, vagiana) with more lesbian temptation and more touching .

5 years : Sophia is more liberated , she allow strangers/son/friend to touch her breasts , with higher lesbian temptation and more touching with more girls .

6 years : Sophia allowed strangers/son/friend touching her private parts with more sexuality involved , lesbian temptation at the highest level , she also experienced orgasm with sister/daughter ..

7 years : Sophia tried her first handjob and she's getting used to it with strangers/son/friend ...
I'm going to shorten from here , lesbian scenes will only get sexier with more girls (threesome ) and tools.

8 years : Probably first blow job , breast ...
9 years : She's now accepting strangers/son/friend to orgasm her
10-11 years : First sex scene .


You can take this seriously or as a joke , you can also expect that the story will never end , frizzing , or story get backward like with dylan (got the opportunity to touch her then one year later nothing more ) , or some characters may get the opportunity to fuck her in 15 -20 years, I think this dev need to make it clear with his supporters making a long term schedule otherwise he's just milking them infinitely .

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

the hypocrites wont put an ntr tag on this game like they should but they will delete your post claiming trolling...(not the first time) when it was an honest response but i forget the new era we are in where people cant handle the truth

I wouldn't say this game is NTR. That acronym gets thrown around too loosely.

 

[Kodek]

the hypocrites wont put an ntr tag on this game like they should but they will delete your post claiming trolling...(not the first time) when it was an honest response but i forget the new era we are in where people cant handle the truth

But this isn't your usual NTR grade game. I don't think this is NTR at all.

Maybe cheating should be added, but even so the things that the MC did until now are very mild and you have the good wife route. So i don't think the cheating or NTR tag is needed until we have actual sexual involviment.

 

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[GingerSweetGirl]

I have just checked the patrons number and he has lost maybe 4 patrons since the update came out but this is the norm after an update

Yeah I don't expect his numbers to drop, I'm just curious if he's getting any critical feedback in the comments.

 

[WildBillKatt]

Does Sophia manage to score any sausage this update?

Dude, we're only 38 months in! What's the damn rush?

 

[gilgamesh9]

i know by actual standards it does not but by this forum definition of it it is. So many other games that arent have been labeled with it.

 

[Old Dog]

Yeah I don't expect his numbers to drop, I'm just curious if he's getting any critical feedback in the comments.

The patrons love the update as far as I know going by posts on his page.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

The lesbian route is unlikely to have another event for another 5-6 months. The next event I'm looking forward to is the Nathalie event in the v0.15 update, so may be the consequences of Sophia spying on her masturbating.

Wouldn't at all be surprised though if we see people complaining about the possibility of v0.130 being "another lesbian update"

I have now finished the Vicky scene and the prison scene. I enjoyed both as both scenes took Sophia down the route of corruption. Sophia fantasising whilst speaking to Larry feels to me like a big step.

Re Vicky scene in coffee shop/sauna, I am surprised that there was no option as to whether DeShithead (to use your preferred name) comes along or no. The earlier scenes with Vicky seemed to focus more on the Lesbian Temptation route. But this update seemed more for just the Filthy route.

 

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[Kodek]

I have now finished the Vicky scene and the prison scene. I enjoyed both as both scenes took Sophia down the route of corruption. Sophia fantasising whilst speaking to Larry feels to me like a big step.

Re Vicky scene in coffee shop/sauna, I am surprised that there was no option as to whether DeShithead (to use your preferred name) comes along or no. The earlier scenes with Vicky seemed to focus more on the Lesbian Temptation route. But this update seemed more for just the Filthy route.

The same happened with Emma's route and Alyssa's route (althought, not as much in Alyssa). For some reason, Emma's route became opposite to Dylan's and Alyssa's to Ellie/Julie's. Well, i couldn't ditch any of the incest pair in my filthy playthrought since Dylan is maybe my favorite from the filthy route and Ellie is... well, Ellie.

Not only that, but even if you choose Emma and Alyssa instead of incest, their routes didn't focus so much in the lesbian side, but more on corruption or another character's development. I'm a bit sad with this, especially with Alyssa since she was the ONE. That girl who ignated the lesbian flame in Sophie's heart.

 

[gilgamesh9]

like scrooge Mcduck swimming in the gold laughing at everyone that pays for this