VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

You mean tried to look younger in front of the men so that it was more believable the story of 3 women partying together with a significant age gap? Mostly trying to help Ellie to get closer to Logan btw. That was a more-than-obvious lie.

That is one way to look at it

 

[Alley_Cat]

You mean tried to look younger in front of the men so that it was more believable the story of 3 women partying together with a significant age gap? Mostly trying to help Ellie to get closer to Logan btw. That was a more-than-obvious lie.

In the introduction it is mentioned that Sophia and Liam got married a few years before graduation, and around the time Sophia was pregnant with Ellie, so Sophia having Ellie and Dylan at an early age is entirely probable. Also explains why Sophia is much more accepting of Ellie's relationship with Jules, since it's impossible for Ellie to get accidentally pregnant this way

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

I think Aiden's third mission will end in the next update. He will ask Sofia to take action and send a report over the phone. It can be a photo in underwear, an erotic session in a mask so that the face is not visible. Accidental reproduction in a public place, which he will indicate, etc.

What the heck is "accidental reproduction" in a public place? "Oh excuse me sir I didn't see you standing there. It seems my vagina accidentally allowed your penis to fuck me."

 

[nexer]

Three moments where you can find out more about Sophia. When the game starts, night club and Ava Meyers.

 

[Old Dog]

Three moments where you can find out more about Sophia. When the game starts, night club and Ava Meyers.

The intro explains a lot about Sophia's early life with Liam

 

[Alley_Cat]

What the heck is "accidental reproduction" in a public place? "Oh excuse me sir I didn't see you standing there. It seems my vagina accidentally allowed your penis to fuck me."

There's a difference between having sex and getting pregnant. With IVF you don't even need to have sex. Hell, if the journal articles I've been reading are any indication, you don't even need sperm to get pregnant

 

[lockerxx]

Sophia mentioned her age when they went to the club with Ellie/Patricia as Patricia said that Sophia was 40 but Sophia corrected her and said that she is 38

i wonder if sophie lied about her age

 

[Old Dog]

i wonder if sophie lied about her age

Yea she could of lied but she is closing in on her 40th birthday be it by 1 or 2 years makes little difference.
Sophia got pregnant in college 3 years before graduation and has been married 18 years(I think) what difference it could make to the story I don't know.

 

[Mamonetti]

Yea she could of lied but she is closing in on her 40th birthday be it by 1 or 2 years makes little difference.
Sophia got pregnant in college 3 years before graduation and has been married 18 years(I think) what difference it could make to the story I don't know.

And whether she's already in her forties or is just about to get there isn't that important considering my initial comment about the midlife crisis.

But yes, Sophia could be still in her late thirties.

 

[Old Dog]

And whether she's already in her forties or is just about to get there isn't that important considering my initial comment about the midlife crisis.

But yes, Sophia could be still in her late thirties.

If I remember right the mid life crisis started after Sophia gave birth to Dylan(no comment from me here) so he could of been of a youngish age to notice this,if it ever happened.

 

[Kodek]

Yes, it seems like Ellie put Sophia on very high pedestal but what triggered physical attraction? Was it the kiss between Sophia and Patricia? or it was something before that? She probably understand that what they are doing is wrong but still pushes Sophia in that direction.

It seems like Ellie also didn't think too highly about Liam and probably sees him as unworthy of Sophia.

Well, Ellie suddenly found herself questioning her own sexuality too. She barely discovered that she likes women as much (or even more) than men.

Adding this fact to how much Ellie looked up to her mother, plus hormones, plus Sophia and Patricia's kiss we got to our currently point in their relationship. Ellie 'tasted' her mom and liked it, now wants more.

 

[madbloke]

I think that Logan could persuade Ellie into having sex with him, after Ellie confesses to him that she is still a virgin and, then brags to everybody that he took Ellies virginity and upsetting Sophia in the process

She would have to set Patricia on to him

 

[Kodek]

If I remember right the mid life crisis started after Sophia gave birth to Dylan(no comment from me here) so he could of been of a youngish age to notice this,if it ever happened.

Sophia also mentioned she got pregnant with Ellie after college and got married just after graduation. I don't remember in which point in the game she mentioned this.
So, it makes perfect sense that Sophia is 38. Ellie is 19 (probably), Sophia and Liam has been married for 18 years. She is right at the start of her middle life crises.

Also, for the fact that Sophia is a lot more lusty after just few weeks without sex. Man normally loses their libido when they age while woman's libido normally rises with age. She is in the phase of her life when she is most... 'needy' let us say.

EDIT. I could probably get a link of some research explaining this, but i'm a lazy fuck. Sorry.

 

[sheatfish]

What the heck is "accidental reproduction" in a public place? "Oh excuse me sir I didn't see you standing there. It seems my vagina accidentally allowed your penis to fuck me."

* random nudity *, this translator is playing pranks

 

[nexer]

Sophia is 38. Its the law .

 

[Old Dog]

Sophia also mentioned she got pregnant with Ellie during college and got married just after graduation. I don't remember in which point in the game she mentioned this.
So, it makes perfect sense that Sophia is 38. Ellie is 19 (probably), Sophia and Liam has been married for 18 years. She is right at the start of her middle life crises.

Also, for the fact that Sophia is a lot more lusty after just few weeks without sex. Man normally loses their libido when they age while woman's libido normally rises with age. She is in the phase of her life when she is most... 'needy' let us say.

EDIT. I could probably get a link of some research explaining this, but i'm a lazy fuck. Sorry.

It is mentioned in the intro when Sophia got pregnant

 

[Kodek]

I think that the self defense class will give Dylan some confidence in his ability to fight (likely misplaced if going up against someone who is a fighter but...) and I think that this could become part of the Dylan/Marie story arc which would be great.

I also think that this training could give Dylan the confidence to try to intervene if he saw Logan trying to force Ellie to do something she didn't want to do. We already know that Logan is a bruiser - he lost out on an opportunity when he beat up the son of one of the agency executives during a party. He also likes to drink and doesn't seem bothered about losing control.

So - if Dylan intervened to try to save Ellie (because brothers and sisters will fight but they will also stand together against others who attack any family members), even if he failed and got beaten up, this could continue to help heal the rift between them. Imagine Sophia overhearing this conversation:

Ellie: 'Dylan, why did you step in to save me. You took a major beating from Logan.'

Dylan: 'Ellie you're my Sister - of course I'm going to try to protect you.'

Ellie: 'You know that you could not beat him in a fight right?'

Dylan: 'I didn't think about that - I saw him hurting you and I had to do something to stop him'

Ellie: 'There is no way to hide the damage he did to you... What are you going to say to Mom (Please don't tell her about Logan she thinks)'

Dylan: 'I'll tell her I got into a fight with a couple of guys on the way home from school. Mom will get mad and I might get grounded but I don't care about that.'

Ellie: 'Stop moving your face around, I'm trying to put on the antiseptic.'

Dylan: 'Why are you trying to help me?'

Ellie: 'You got beaten up trying to help me so I figure I can do this to help pay you back... but don't get used to it (said with a bit of a smile on her lips and the first kind-hearted teasing tone Dylan thinks he's ever heard from Ellie towards him)'

Sophia smiles to herself and quietly goes back downstairs to her office.

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Yes - this is the kind of thing that can happen to help heal the rift between Dylan and Ellie.

If you don't like Dylan - I suspect that you Don't want to see this kind of rapprochement.

If you like Dylan - I believe that you will approve of this type of event.

In either case, we'll have to see if L&P advances the story relationships using the self defense classes as stepping stones/a catalyst for relationship changes.

Sorry for this late reply.
I don't 'dislike' Dylan and normally wouldn't have any problem with this development. If it ended in just friendship.

The problem is that the little fuck obviously wants his sister, not only his mother (whaaat a fucking surprise). In the little event they had, Dylan spent a lot of time undressing Ellie with his eyes and even took advantage of her hug to try and get a feel.
So yeaaah, it will probably end in Dylan trying to get some. The harem and whatever.

Ellie would not accept it for what we know about her character, she is not attracted to Dylan in ANY way. She is mostly disgusted and sometimes feels her privacy threated by the little pervert. To make such a development possible we would see Ellie's mentality getting changed to fit Dylan's desire better and i don't want to see my favorite character turning into a man-boy's harem member.
That's what makes me apprehensive about this plot line. If this don't happen, kudos to their friendship~

 

[Kodek]

It is mentioned in the intro when Sophia got pregnant
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Wow, so long ago. It's surprising i remember it being mentioned at all. But i got some of the facts wrong apparently, sorry for that.

Also, adding to the 'Sophia needy' thing. Women see a rise in their libido with age mostly because they are closer to the 'point of no return' and their maternal instinct kicks in, making them want more children. More children equals more sex. We see this in play during the game.

 

[Mamonetti]

It is mentioned in the intro when Sophia got pregnant
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Well, according to this, and based on the age people normally finish the 4-year version of College in US (it goes from 19 to 22), she could be 20 when she got pregnant, 21 when she gave birth and 39 if Ellie is 18. The could be minor differences of months in between, but yes, 38/39 is reasonable if she really needed only 4 years for College (giving birth twice..).

 

[Alley_Cat]

She would have to set Patricia on to him

Patricia and her Deagle?