VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

IMHO, there are only three reasons why she could let herself be walked on like this: either she's had a trauma or she's been overprotected in the past. The last one concerns one of his two children, who almost died.
So she is ready to sacrifice everything to protect Dylan.

You know the most educated people can sometimes show a dark side.

When did the children almost die?

 

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

Elly is at least 5 years ahead of Dylan,maybe even 10.

I don't disagree with you one bit. Rapid-Fire, Warp Speed, Mach Speed..... take your pick.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Yes it is difficult without the general framework.

However, I think he has an eye for details so as not to hurl* events without context or explanations. (* not sure it's the right word )

In any case, what I like about this story is how a woman who has everything, a job, a family, a beautiful house, a reputation, is going to lose everything (or not).

I might be a sadist actually

Interesting that Sophia losing everything only really comes up when discussing the endgame of the Sophia/Dylan route. But the Patricia route, to show that Sophia can have even more.

 

[Old Dog]

During their childhood... don't look in scripts, that's a guess.

It may not be death (metaphoric), but something that happened during childhood to either Ellie or Dylan, but that Sophia dreads to see happen again.

This is why she loses all common sense in some situations.

Sophia has a lot of weakness despite his very good education.

If I put too much psychology, tell me, and I will talk about pigeons again

Thanks

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

The problem to have a mother of 38 with children around 18 is that she had them around 20, while in the middle of her studying with no job/income. Sure she can be helped by the parents, but having kids this young is generally for uneducated people, not for people like Sophia and Liam. And 1 error can happen (Ellie) but not a 2nd so quick after (Dylan). And even 20 years ago wasn't so different (unlike in the 50s for ex). In short that's the first point of unrealism


So AWAM is great for a slow fap ?

Clearly the timing of when Sophia would have become pregnant was poorly conceived. It all goes back to the long-running discussion about age, L&P wants everyone as young as possible while still being on the fringe of believability. Because god knows. if Sophia was over the age of 40 she would be completely unfuckable. Once we reach the age of 40, we aren't allowed to be in most porn games.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

During their childhood... don't look in scripts, that's a guess.

It may not be death (metaphoric), but something that happened during childhood to either Ellie or Dylan, but that Sophia dreads to see happen again.

This is why she loses all common sense in some situations.

Sophia has a lot of weakness despite his very good education.

If I put too much psychology, tell me, and I will talk about pigeons again

AWAM "The Sequel" should be all about the Pigeons or at least a spin-off.

 

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

Clearly the timing of when Sophia would have become pregnant was poorly conceived. It all goes back to the long-running discussion about age, L&P wants everyone as young as possible while still being on the fringe of believably. Because god knows. if Sophia was over the age of 40 she would be completely unfuckable. Once we reach the age of 40, we aren't allowed to be in most porn games.

I know Timestamp: Lost Love doesn't follow that age 40 rule.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I think in this route, Patricia and Carl want to live with Sophia, Ellie and Dylan. They will go around the world with Carl's private yacht.

Maybe Nathalie could join them

And if Dylan wasn't there, I have no doubt Ellie would be nude sunbathing on the deck. Knowing Patricia she'd probably join in too.

 

[Old Dog]

And if Dylan wasn't there, I have no doubt Ellie would be nude sunbathing on the deck. Knowing Patricia she'd probably join in too.

Mean while in a galaxy far far away, my precious waits

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

I think the reason for this is the rapid-fire progression that he put Ellie in right now. L&P did a good job telling Sophia/Ellie's story in a chronological sequence for their story, which flows very well, but I thought the rapid-fire progression was to keep in the pace of the 30-day time frame. I thought he would do the same with Sophia/Dylan because I wasn't sure if he would time-lapse the events at specific points in the novel. But now that L&P will no longer use time lapses, I fear he may already start down the path of the storyline being completely unbalanced.

unbalanced. the apple not falling far from the tree

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Elly is at least 5 years ahead of Dylan,maybe even 10.

Are you speaking of the RW production rate or are you trying to get back into the age discussion. Please leave that last horse dead as it is.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Sophia "Maybe I should stop the birth control pills before the next time?"
Liam "Are you really sure that you want another child?"
Sophia "Absolutely!!!"

Beyond 40 it's risky.

No one is saying she should have waited until she was 40 to have kids.

 

[AchedCroissant]

ellie got Sophie/Julia/Logan( )and maybe the basketball guy.

I don't want anything straight with Ellie and Sophia I change Logan for Emma

 

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[Deleted member 3325933]

Not necessarily, I think a lot of abandoned erotic games are given up because the developer runs out of ideas when he has told the main route or has shown important events prematurely under pressure from the fans. At L&P I have the feeling that he actually planned a rough narrative thread. In some parts not detailed in others. And he has a lot of events / ideas that he may have discarded because they didn't really fit into the narrative he was planning. In addition, I can only stress this again and again, the original plan provided for an alternating narration from the point of view of Sophia and Liam. If he now leaves Liam's way out, he should have a lot more material to tell a story than is necessary. For example, parts of the Dylan / Elli route may previously have been an Elli / Liam route.

Since no one has seen any original draft (even if there was an outline to start) this is all conjecture. We have no way of knowing when he puts anything together. IMO we should not. It is just another form of spoiler. He would do better without any teasers, better without engaging the audience (not a strong suit of his anyway), and way better focusing his product (which is his strong suit). Speed is life. Right now his project is heading toward life support as his production rate slows to a crawl. The audience must now wait half a year for 1/3rd of a day with 18 days remaining. Even if he gets to 3 updates a year. If all they cover is 1/3rd of a day we are still looking at 18 years. Do the math. The potential of this lasting 27 years from now is not good. If I understand correctly that would make him 60 years of age. Back to my retirement question for Germany.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

IMHO, there are only three reasons why she could let herself be walked on like this: either she's had a trauma or she's been overprotected in the past. The last one concerns one of his two children, who almost died.
So she is ready to sacrifice everything to protect Dylan.

You know the most educated people can sometimes show a dark side.

Because the author decides it will be so. Case closed, no psychology needed. It the reasons that L&P chooses for whatever reason he chooses. He BS'd the rational of the job 2 scene that earned him a SHOTA tag. So he will make what he wants to happen happen no matter the reason. Which, as the author, he can do. Whether the audience accepts it is up to.... the audience.