VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

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[Talcum Powder]

A lot of folks are speculating that the evening with Cathy/Andy starts a sharing route. Does this invite from Cathy really suggest the start of a swinging/swapping path? I think this is simply an invite to be best man and maid of honor at the wedding.

Seems unlikely that old friends would decide, apparently on a whim (this was a vacation first, now they're renting an apartment?!), to make a permanent move to San Alejo on the brink of getting married. Would hooking up with Liam+Sophia really be very high on the list of priorities - would it really be anywhere near the top of their minds?

While Sophia is certainly becoming more open (depending on choices) is there any evidence that Liam is anywhere close to accepting sharing Sophia?

 

[Old Dog]

A lot of folks are speculating that the evening with Cathy/Andy starts a sharing route. Does this invite from Cathy really suggest the start of a swinging/swapping path? I think this is simply an invite to be best man and maid of honor at the wedding.

Seems unlikely that old friends would decide, apparently on a whim (this was a vacation first, now they're renting an apartment?!), to make a permanent move to San Alejo on the brink of getting married. Would hooking up with Liam+Sophia really be very high on the list of priorities - would it really be anywhere near the top of their minds?

While Sophia is certainly becoming more open (depending on choices) is there any evidence that Liam is anywhere close to accepting sharing Sophia?

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Cathy asks then to be best man and Sophia to be a brides maid?

 

[Talcum Powder]

Yes, there might be some truth to that. But Liam doesn't seem to know anything about the concert where his wife is going. He just changed the date from 8 pm to 9 pm. He assumes that Sophia can come along. Even though she rejects Aiden's 3rd task, she says nothing about a concert. She simply agrees to the meeting.

Interestingly, Liam said after nine, possibly as late as 10PM:


So, if the concert is earlier in the evening and sunset is around 8:15, there's still at least an hour of post-sunset time before Sophia might be expected at Cathy's apartment.

 

[Dan5k74]

Dear users, I have to make amends and admit that in the last two months some secondary commitments (girlfriend, work, family) have distracted me from the really important things in life (Sophia, aWaM and its thread on f95zone). I returned to this forum only a few days before the release of version 0.130 and so, missing a few hundred pages of comments, opinions and updates on the progress of the game, I fell a little behind on some of the plot developments of the game. I'm referring specifically to this post:

As far as I know the jump has been removed.

Is it me, or the developer had set up that after Day 19 (PD12) there would be a time jump in the plot that would coincide with the conclusion of the first part of the story? Did I misunderstand or something changed so that the next playable day will correspond to Day 20? Please help me understand without forcing me to look back through the pages of the thread. Thanks in advance.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Dear users, I have to make amends and admit that in the last two months some secondary commitments (girlfriend, work, family) have distracted me from the really important things in life (Sophia, aWaM and its thread on f95zone). I returned to this forum only a few days before the release of version 0.130 and so, missing a few hundred pages of comments, opinions and updates on the progress of the game, I got a little behind on some of the plot developments of the game. I'm referring specifically to this post:

Is it me, or the developer had set up that after Day 19 (PD12) there would be a time jump in the plot that would coincide with the conclusion of the first part of the story? Did I misunderstand or something changed so that the next playable day will correspond to Day 20? Please help me understand without forcing me to look back through the pages of the thread. Thanks in advance.

The time jump was removed when the decision was made to postpone the Coach Sophia storyline and make it DLC. So yes, playable day 13 will be day 20, not 27

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

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I didn't trust the 1st poll and I don't this one either, is the dev trying to tailor his game to his patrons whims and abandon his own vision?

Are you saying that out of concern or because Alyssa is that far behind in the poll?

 

[Talcum Powder]

Cathy asks then to be best man and Sophia to be a brides maid?

When you meet old friends you haven't seen for a while, who are well into planning a wedding, and they invite you over because "there's something" they want to "talk with you guys about", it does seem more likely a conversation about the wedding then it does about rekindling old desires (whether acted upon or not).

L&P has proven to be unpredictable (if not always believable) so the conversation could end up being a confrontation about Liam and Andy's gay sex affair which erupts into a jealousy-inspired violent rage which ends in a double homicide (9" chef's knife, perhaps, broken wine bottle?) and Sophia and Cathy making love on the blood soaked kitchen floor.

I dunno... maybe?

 

[Talcum Powder]

That would have been me. Liam being another protagonist was mentioned in this thread a while back, when people were using catching Liam at the clothing store on day 2 as proof that he was cheating on Sophia. Apparently with Liam's POV would have explained what he was doing.

I shouldn't be so lazy, search out the posts and give credit where it's due...

 

[Old Dog]

Are you saying that out of concern or because Alyssa is that far behind in the poll?

My precious have never been that high in the polls but at least she is in the top ten.
Also Alyssa is tied to the Aiden route so she should be safe

 

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[bigballenergy]

Does anyone know when the new Update for Mac will be on here?

 

[Alley_Cat]

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-130-lust-passion.5944/post-5082450

Dropping the time jump and Coach Sophia being handled as DLC can be found here.

 

[xxxorro]

In the future, to repay the debts, Sophia will become a thief. She'll steal Sam's car.

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Well, she has the perfect suit for the job now, she just need a balaclava.


Speaking of the suit, I wonder if it will back in action at some point, for another task or something else...
And I'd be curious about the second suit he gave her. Is it really too small? Or too big? Or too revealing?
Nothing is said about that.
And as I already said in another post, I chuckled when I saw this scene as it really felt like L&P put it on purpose to answer some of our questions about how he can guess Sophia's size

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

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I didn't trust the 1st poll and I don't this one either, is the dev trying to tailor his game to his patrons whims and abandon his own vision?

Damn even Mr. Murray beats out Liam

 

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[armion82]

Damn even Mr. Murray beats out Liam

He brings a shame to the name Liam-the teacher of Batman and Obi Wan Kenobi.

 

[Lukasz1]

Damn even Mr. Murray beats out Liam

 

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

I don't think so, but maybe he can add a little more content for a character without 'betraying' his initial vision. It can result in a longer scene, or a secondary event / DLC

Everything is not set in stone either.

On several occasions, he indicated that he still had to work on certain important characters.

He withdrew Dylan's confession, but if he did, it shouldn't have changed much in the end, otherwise you know very well that he would have got a little angry by saying that it's important to keep it and only his opinion matters. whatever... the artist's choices are up to the artist. It's obvious but it must be remembered

In my humble point of view, he can do a few variations if he thinks it can be nice without moving the lines too much. The only thing I wish is that you had enough content with Alyssa, and farrah had enough content with Ellie

The question now would be, what is his "Vision?" L&P's original plan was only three to four years for the novel, about three years ago. Now that his VN has grown in size, Did he stray from his original design? If you look at it now, Dylan is playing the role of a second main. Was that his original intent? No one knows for sure what his initial goal or plan was for the novel's first draft. So could we say he is abandoning his vision by rewritten and adding more content to the novel than initially planned based on public member feedback and his rewrites? Unless someone here saw his original outline or drafts, no one can know for sure.

The one thing I would say is this. Suppose L&P is basing any of his thoughts on this poll and the previous one. In that case, Dylan and Ellie's content should be of similar size, and the pace should be somewhat identical, with Ellie a little bit ahead of Dylan in terms of progression and not where it is at now. Of course, I understand that Sophia and Ellie would be more comfortable about topics that she could have with Ellie versus having them with Dylan. But at the end of the day, Ellie is still Sophia's Daughter, which should fall into the same category as Sophia and Dylan. Which from a "Fictional Realism" standpoint, that would have made sense.