VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[xןʞ]

The only thing I took from this whole multipage debacle is that someone here has a hugely inflated sense of their abilities when it comes to rendering.

People like Philly and Dr. Pink can drop 1000+ renders of higher quality(and animation!) in a timeframe of about a month and a half without $6k+ rigs, while working 50 hour a week real jobs, not lolstudent, and doing it while making a few thousand less a month from Patreon.

I have no opinion on your game's quality, but please stop overestimating your ability with Daz and claiming it is unmatched from other games, there is a certain German bear who is a god at rendering, but you are not him.

 

[Facha]

Going on dirty-rout I cant remember if I ever seen her titts.

It's one of my favorite games, but like you I think it's going too slow

 

[Bsheep922]

If you stay at good wife path you will get liam for oral sex in day 11 but you will lose your chance to flirt with dylan, sam, museum boys on the future. fortunately i'll managed to have enough point with them by editing save game.

Here's my save file Liam-Sophie first sex scene

This was a great help...
Can you please send a save file with very low Good Wife as well? So that i can enjoy all the slutty scenes.
Or please guide me how to change the relationship numbers.
Thank you in advance!

 

[armion82]

I wasn't planning to even visit this thread anymore (i have said my opinion in the "rating" and i was planning to move on from this game) but my alert indicator was lighting like crazy..
Ok first of all you have to be one of the worst devs there is not on your work but in terms of character..
When you choose a job like yours u must learn to accept the bad critisism and become better from it and not only the friendly pat on the back..
Even the best devs with games like "Milfy City" and "Timestamps" have being on occasions victims of bad criticism and that help them to make their game better..Do they give in on every crazy demand members ask them to do..? NO..Do they consider it and if they did anything wrong change it..? YES..But to call the people that have different opinion than yours that they envy..What they envy exactly..? Are they dev competitors and they trying to damage your work..?When on the 100 members 40 of them have "problem" with the content then there is a problem (a little check on the fan art thread will convince you) ..When members complain that the MC haven't show her niples yet or she doesn't have sex with her husband yet they don't ask from you to turn the game into a fuckfest nor they asking from you to change the story..They only ask for things that will spice the game without changing the scenario..An example if you give a logical explanation why we haven't see the MC full nude yet whn she is taking a bath or when she is changing clothes when nobody is around i will take all this back and i will say that i was wrong..If you can't accept it then you are not for this job..As for the "free" that you mention before this is only logical..Member tend to download a game for free play a few updates and if the game is what they like then they donate..For example i download for free your game around Feb-March 2018 and it was in my top 5 then i delete it and in the next update i download it again for free and i check it and again and again and again until the last update when i decide that this game is not for me gave it a rate and move on..What did you expect that members will come flooding to buy your content..And remember before you say again "free" that those are your future customers..Maybe now is everything is fine for you but in the future you may turn into something like "Lily of the valley" and if you are often in this forum you will know what i mean..Consider all this as a friendly advise since i don't envy and i would not like you to fail..

Now you make me go to Lily's thread to see what happen.Didn't play the game from more than an year.

 

[Hugo Mungo Bass]

Now you make me go to Lily's thread to see what happen.Didn't play the game from more than an year.

Go for it and you will notice when the game was at his peak and when the devs start to think high for themself and all that just from playing it..

 

[Akamari]

An example if you give a logical explanation why we haven't see the MC full nude yet whn she is taking a bath or when she is changing clothes when nobody is around i will take all this back and i will say that i was wrong..

I disagree with almost everything you've said, but I'll comment on this bit because this is something I really like about this game.

Every revelation needs a good timing. In adult games, the biggest revelations are usually (because there are very few good writers) when the players see the characters naked for the first time. It should be done in a fashion that is exciting and special and not just waste it on boring mundane scenes like showers and changing clothes. Players often come back to games for these revelations and to do it like that is anti-climatic. Wasted opportunity. The same goes for the sex scenes, context is important.

You can bash it whatever you like but this is one of the key elements why the game is successful where many others fail.

 

[DimitarM12]

a year and 3 or 4 months and we cant even get a fking handjob or bj in the game (not with Liam) .... so fking boring, just stop giving them money.

 

[36 Ninjas]

All I got from the dev's lengthy and rather tiresome diatribe was:-
Arrogance.
More Arrogance.
A huge, hefty dollop of arrogance.
Everyone on here is far too stupid to understand what he's trying to do.
All the other 3d artists on here are just nowhere near his level and all the game devs' and their games are crap.
More arrogance.
Etc.
Etc.

This is what I gathered and let's me know how much of a joke this is. Not when you have games like Depraved Awakening whos Renders blow these out of the water and managed to release far more content to every update and had a moderately slow build to one of it's relationships or Acting Lessons who again had a "Realistic" build up to a relationship and released more per update. Both of those are already done by the way and are regarded as some of the best on this site.

Hell even two games that have probably the slowest build ups of all Melody and Dating my Daughter have accomplished more. All you have here is excuses and disappointment. Most slow build games have at least some other distraction to keep players on the hook and playing something WORTH it every update. You don't get that here, what you get here is a frigid ass MC and your only option is nothing at all, interrupted masturbation or victim of some form of sexual assault. Ya'll can keep chasing this carrot on this stick as for me, I'll pledge support elsewhere.

 

[Hominusnocturnal]

Be positive guys,,
If you ask to your self why do Sophia did not have sex with Liam (good wife path) even in day 15? might be she's in her period or she's to busy to do the house stuff,,, The dev only made the game as close as a realistic desperate loyal wife on real life,,
Idk, i just thought,, just ignore me if u disagree,,,
I just want to make my self calm down of these blue balls shit, coz i've been through those circumstances so many times when my GF being a jerk,,

 

[Philly_Games]

I was going to stay away from this, but after i read that post. Wow, okay, I made a pretty decent game. But at the end of the day, do you know what I am? I am a project manager at an IT firm that just happened to make a decent smut game on the side, nothing more.

To belittle everyone here and mark yourself as this great artist was honestly one of the lowest things I have seen any dev do here. Yes your renders are good, but the way you came off was some of the most arrogant stuff I have heard. You are in the upper tier for 3d artists but not even close to the best. Hopes, icstor, stoper, joralle all put you to shame and only one of them makes more than you. The rest you make more than all combined, so don't play that money shit here. I did 0.1 to 0.8 of my game on a 1060. It took me 6 months to break $500 bucks. I haven't earned jack shit off my game everything went into hardware and assets and everything else, so trust me. If i can pull that off, you have no excuse.

 

[Hugo Mungo Bass]

I disagree with almost everything you've said, but I'll comment on this bit because this is something I really like about this game.

Every revelation needs a good timing. In adult games, the biggest revelations are usually (because there are very few good writers) when the players see the characters naked for the first time. It should be done in a fashion that is exciting and special and not just waste it on boring mundane scenes like showers and changing clothes. Players often come back to games for these revelations and to do it like that is anti-climatic. Wasted opportunity. The same goes for the sex scenes, context is important.

You can bash it whatever you like but this is one of the key elements why the game is successful where many others fail.

The games that was successful building up the story and i mean really building up that comes in mind is DMD,Melody and Dana and two of them is far better than this game in terms of rendering this mean another plus to try them more and the members be a little more patient with them..But the main reason was the contact with the MC..They don't engage full on in orgies after 2 updates but in the meantime you have the usual spy on the girls when they changing clothes you have a nip slip a little touch atleast something that will keep you coming back but in this game is a big NO NO NO..In another game which name is Lewd island (i highly recommend it to you if you haven't played it) the dev give the opportunity to the MC to engage in a sexual act with the only female he could have (in this certain situation atleast) and in a very early stage of the story but after that the female returns to her usual character and the tension build up again and the guys that have played it can't wait for more..My point is that magical moment doesn't have to be after 15 updates..Does it have to be right from he start..?Of course not but the teasing part after lets say 5 updates will be ok since 90% of the players have played the filthy route..I mean for what special moment are you talking about..?In one update the MC is flirting with the whole crew of movers and in the other she is wearing one piece swimsuit in one update she is grinding on the lap of Sam while playing the Viola and when she plays basketball and on the other hand she hide behind the curtains when sam was spying on her we never see a nude scene and it takes like 7 updates for her to wear a two piece swimsuit..Tell me if Sophia instead of choosing not wear a lingerie for Sam decide to do the exact opposite of that and maybe a little posing will be the magic lost..?I don't want to burst your bubble but by the way you thinking the magic had lost the time Sophia sucked her husband (which is not the case for me)..If you can't see that the dev is playing games i can't help you with that and i really don't want to..Its your money (if you are a paying) and your time (if you are playing for free) and both of them you can spend them as you like..And please do not continue this conversation because i have take the time to check your other post and you are obviously biased..Have fun with the game..

 

[dirtyrat]

I was going to stay away from this, but after i read that post. Wow, okay, I made a pretty decent game. But at the end of the day, do you know what I am? I am a project manager at an IT firm that just happened to make a decent smut game on the side, nothing more.

To belittle everyone here and mark yourself as this great artist was honestly one of the lowest things I have seen any dev do here. Yes your renders are good, but the way you came off was some of the most arrogant stuff I have heard. You are in the upper tier for 3d artists but not even close to the best. Hopes, icstor, stoper, joralle all put you to shame and only one of them makes more than you. The rest you make more than all combined, so don't play that money shit here. I did 0.1 to 0.8 of my game on a 1060. It took me 6 months to break $500 bucks. I haven't earned jack shit off my game everything went into hardware and assets and everything else, so trust me. If i can pull that off, you have no excuse.

Philly, you didn't make a decent game. You made an awesome game. I respect what you and others like Dr. PinkCake and CheekyGimp do for us.

 

[AlienEDM]

This game is a brazilian soap and belongs in the children's corner. Ridiculous!

Watch out for this kind of comment! There is a lot of brazilian people in here who can undertand it like a insult racism!

 

[Lorenz1]

Watch out for this kind of comment! There is a lot of brazilian people in here who can undertand it like a insult racism!

It is their problem, isn't it?

 

[AlienEDM]

It is their problem, isn't it?

Perhaps. That means its is my problem, because I am one of them.

 

[Lorenz1]

Perhaps. That means its is my problem, because I am one of them.

Yep. It is your and only your problem. No need to shout about it. No one cares.

 

[Akamari]

And please do not continue this conversation because i have take the time to check your other post and you are obviously biased..Have fun with the game..

I'm not biased, I have criticized this game in the past as well for not having spicy enough updates but that is not the point.

I'm saying that doing the first explicit nude scenes in the form of showers, changing clothes, sleeping, dreams, imagination and whatever other boring activities the girls might be doing is not a good way to reward the player in exciting fashion. It's just a lazy way to give the patrons their monthly lewd quota without making any effort as a writer or artist. For me the quality developer knows how to use covered nudity or not clear angles of view to do a proper buildup.

 

[NeroZee]

This is what it looks like when someone starts sniffing too much of their own farts.

 

[tg]

So, for anyone that would like a quick summary, the dev doesn't think the game is worth playing until it's about 0.10. And since it comes out every .05, we have: 0.75, .080, 0.85, 0.90, 0.95, 0.10.

That's six releases to get to a good stage. If we say that each release takes two months, we have 6 x 2 = 12.

So, maybe we all come back this time next year and see how things are? What think?

 

[atlas114]

this thread doesn't disappoint to deliver on the lols.

@Philly_Games great response bro. i'd like to add that even the great Dr. Pinkcake (Acting Lessons which is now COMPLETED and is developing his next game BADIK) also produced updates/renders at a dizzying pace, consistently overdelivering and releasing updates early (despite having a full time job). This could be said for the same as Belle of Long Live The Princess who also has a full time job and releases that game on a monthly basis.

or guys like Luxee who charge only per update. I hate that Parental Love gets updated so sparsely but he gets a pass due to the charge patreons only when I got something for them thing going.