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Soooo guess what guys i was just banned from the AWAM discord page yesterday and my only fault was that i asked L&P some hard questions about whether the ranch event which is going to be the next major event would have a lesbian exclusive option like it was always planned or would Dylan be forcibly shoved into the update as L&P decided to add Dylan to that event in order to satisfy the Dylan fanbois lol..all i wanted to know was whether there would be a lesbian route as well without Dylan or would he be there regardless of our choices but since a lot of his followers on discord are the typical Dylan fanbois who think he is God and the almighty creator they got triggered and reported me to the mods and got me banned..and i am not even surprised coz i dont think i have seen a more insecure bunch of people here than the Dylan fanbois and dont get me wrong i dont hate Dylan i do like him but i am NOT his fanboi and hence i am bored and tired of seeing him in literally every update coz this game is first and foremost about Sophia and her desires not Dylan's but any way all i can say is that i hope L&P sticks to his original plan and at least gives a lesbian exclusive route for those of us who are tired of seeing Dylan in every damn update..:HideThePain::HideThePain::HideThePain:
 

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Guys any body help I download the chapter 6 but It cannot open it says (as expection as occured) and I can't run the game some body help

How to fix that problem please I need to play

Guys any body help I download the chapter 6 but It cannot open it says (as expection as occured) and I can't run the game some body help
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What the fuck is with all of the incest kinkshamers here ? We are all in the same boat of reciving subpar updates so stop whining.
I know right? People is shaming the Dylan and Sophia thing as if that wasn't a thing at the very fucking start of the game lol. Suddenly it's so shocking "What!? Incest? In my incest-tagged game!? No way!"

Keeping Dylan close would be in fact very normal for a game like this as it is one of the main things about it. Putting the son in weird situations in front of the mom or vice-versa, it's the kind of thing that is expected. The ranch may very well offer these situations, which would help develop things.

At this point I'll take ANYTHING that pushes Sophia into sexual stuff. I just hope, really do, that at the moment of actually fucking someone, we get an option to decide about who Sophia fucks.

Man, I think your understanding of maternal love is a bit distorted. I don't dislike Dylan, it's just that we're not interested in mother-son incest. Don't use this hobby to convince those who aren't interested. No matter how reasonable your argument, a woman is far less likely to have sex with her own son than with another man. That's a fact, no matter how much she loves her son. This is all your fantasy, and this game is just presenting it. But remember, don't use your incestuous thoughts as an excuse. I won't deny your interest, but I disagree with your point of view, so there's no need to discuss it.
Bro just enjoys the incest aspect of the game, which was there from the very start, I don't think we need to go so deep into it...

Also you may mean to say "some of us" are not interested, not "we" as many here are waiting for that very incest. I mean come on, no need to be so rough, we're all waiting here. The thing is that we know it will take forever so it makes others mad because they will have to wait even more for whatever they want. I do get that...

However, this game was very clearly into the incest thing at first, and it may very well lead to the very first sex scene and that's why they are pushing Dylan more now.
 
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I know right? People is shaming the Dylan and Sophia thing as if that wasn't a thing at the very fucking start of the game lol. Suddenly it's so shocking "What!? Incest? In my incest-tagged game!? No way!"

Keeping Dylan close would be in fact very normal for a game like this as it is one of the main things about it. Putting the son in weird situations in front of the mom or vice-versa, it's the kind of thing that is expected. The ranch may very well offer these situations, which would help develop things.

At this point I'll take ANYTHING that pushes Sophia into sexual stuff. I just hope, really do, that at the moment of actually fucking someone, we get an option to decide about who Sophia fucks.



Bro just enjoys the incest aspect of the game, which was there from the very start, I don't think we need to go so deep into it...

Also you may mean to say "some of us" are not interested, not "we" as many here are waiting for that very incest. I mean come on, no need to be so rough, we're all waiting here. The thing is that we know it will take forever so it makes others mad because they will have to way even more for whatever they want. I do get that...

However, this game was very clearly into the incest thing at first, and it may very well lead to the very first sex scene and that's why they are pushing Dylan more now.
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We're all waiting here. The thing is that we know it will take forever so it makes others mad because they will have to way even more for whatever they want. I do get that...
This is such a good point. It really can't be stated enough. We all know the biggest problem with this game is the amount of characters/routes and that combined with the development time makes everyone impatient and since LP isn't here to slap around we take it out on each other. We're all in the same boat, that is moving at a steady crawl. lol
 

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This is such a good point. It really can't be stated enough. We all know the biggest problem with this game is the amount of characters/routes and that combined with the development time makes everyone impatient and since LP isn't here to slap around we take it out on each other. We're all in the same boat, that is moving at a steady crawl. lol
Nope) The biggest problem is that he doesn't have a team. If 15 people had worked on the development of the scenes, and not just him, then progress would have been noticeable. It's always a double-edged sword. On the one hand, he needs a budget to hire employees and make rapid progress in development, on the other hand, he needs fast development so that the budget is bigger. People don't want to wait for years, it's not a "game" that thousands of fans are waiting for.
 
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Yes.. but no... the consensus seems to be here that Daz3d is dead.. AI is now king because of speed... I don't agree, AI is cookie cutter rubbish.. Everyone, be careful what you wish for.. When the LLM is being back fed from more and more AI stuff, then originality is, and will be completely dead... But I'm a outlier on this, and at the end of the day, pretty old school... I will cite the reemergence of Vinyl as an example.. what is old is new, but what is old is better. my 2 cents..
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With so much Dylan content coming up over the next couple of years this could actually hurt L&P numbers in the long run.
Dylan/Sophia updates always makes the most amount of money for L&P and it's not going to hurt L&P numbers. Yet L&P doesn't include Dylan/Sophia update every event of the playday. Introducing penetrative sex with Sophia will also make L&P more money and yet he hasn't went for it. He has a vision for the game and he is developing it accordingly.
 

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Dylan/Sophia updates always makes the most amount of money for L&P and it's not going to hurt L&P numbers. Yet L&P doesn't include Dylan/Sophia update every event of the playday. Introducing penetrative sex with Sophia will also make L&P more money and yet he hasn't went for it. He has a vision for the game and he is developing it accordingly.
Of course he has not gone through with penetrative sex with Sophia because the longer he dangles that carrot in front of his patrons the more eager they become.
"Dylan/Sophia updates always makes the most amount of money for L&P" and this is for me is the problem and we have even had updates without the main MC.
L&P has fast tracked events,cut story lines short but still holds back on the main event where Sophia gets fucked by somebody other than her hubby.
 
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A consideration on Dylan's role in this game. I'm truly perplexed by all these reservations about corruption and incest, especially between Sophia and Dylan, but also between Sophia and Ellie, and perhaps, from what I understand, between Dylan and Ellie themselves. It seems porn games are meant to have this strange pedagogical and ethical role, making the prospect of incest so unacceptable and horrifying. It seems obvious to me that the primary and ultimate purpose of these games is to escape reality and the ethical and social norms associated with it. So welcome to the most depraved incest if it's a means of embracing a fantasy world where one can unload the anxiety and worries of everyday life through immersion in a parallel reality. It simply makes me laugh when Sam's fans, yet Dylan's detractors, fail to grasp this fundamental aspect of the visual novel. Sam is nothing more than a banal and perfectly normal neighbor friend of Sophia's son. Where's the perversion, the evasion of moral norms, the collapse of every taboo, and the rejection of the foundations of human civilization when a forty-year-old woman has sex with her son's friend who lives next door? (At least nowadays, of course). A ridiculous story of ordinary cuckoldry, perhaps a little spicy given the age difference. But so what? After all, this game offers so many options and paths (perhaps too many) that this prurient taboo is avoidable, unless you really want it. Is it the Protestant mentality, given the American audience here on this forum? Couldn't you leave it at church and have fun without so much mental wanking?
 
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