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wpsdynix

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Most of them don't run a "business", it's a hobby. And being insulted etc. for the things you make in your freetime as a hobby is not compensated by money some people giv'em. And why you feel attacked, are you one of the specifically named target audience? "non-supporting (paying), pirating, "skip unread-text" fap scene lurker". All listed points are connected with and, not or, so it's a quite specific group of people I address. And overall, devs are not paid, you support them that they can create what they have in mind. Either you share their vision or not. That does not mean you have to support all devs which is monetary impossible. Nothing justifies asshole behaviour for the devs. Ignore them if they don't do what you want (maybe do it yourself better) in the time you think is acceptable (maybe do it yourself better). But rants, hate, disrespect is not justified because they get some bucks for their hobby.
If they make any kind of money through their own work (some even hire others), it's a business. That's not debatable. And when did I say I felt attacked? I am pointing out facts. That the devs are not being compensated at all is simply untrue. Look at yourself, you openly ask for feedback on your VN. You sure that's not helping you at all? You sure like to put words in people's mouths to fit your agenda. Why don't you try sticking to facts? You sure you aren't the one feeling attacked?
I would agree that asshole behavior is never acceptable but some of your so-called "non-supporting (paying), pirating, "skip unread-text" fap scene lurker" which you sure seem to like to repeat do provide constructive feedback. Maybe your short-sighted and self-righteous nature is blinding you to this fact.
 
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If they make any kind of money, it's a business. That's not debatable. And when did I say I felt attacked? I am pointing out facts. That the devs are not being compensated at all is simply untrue. Look at yourself, you openly asked for feedback on your VN. You sure like to put words in people's mouths to fit your agenda. Why don't you try sticking to facts? You sure you aren't the one feeling attacked?
I would agree that asshole behavior is never acceptable but some of your so-called "non-supporting (paying), pirating, "skip unread-text" fap scene lurker" which you sure seem to like to repeat do provide constructive feedback. Maybe your short-sighted and self-righteous nature is blinding you to this fact.
Jesus, I asked you if you feel attacked I didn't say you are, question and statement?

Where did I say they are not compensated?

I asked questions in my signature, maybe not perfectly phrased in english, but understandable. So your mentality is quite shocking, because the get some dollars people are allowed to insult them etc.?

So what's the point asking for feedback on the models I create? And now? Am I an egliable target for insults, rants now because I run a "business" creating daz3d models in my freetime as a hobby and being compensated with 2$ a month (before fees and taxes)?
 

wpsdynix

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Jesus, I asked you if you feel attacked I didn't say you are, question and statement?

Where did I say they are not compensated?

I asked questions in my signature, maybe not perfectly phrased in english, but understandable. So your mentality is quite shocking, because the get some dollars people are allowed to insult them etc.?

So what's the point for asking for feedback on the models I create? And now? Am I an egliable target for insults, rants now because I run a "business" creating daz3d models in my freetime as a hobby and being compensated with 2$ a month (before fees and taxes)?
First of all, I wasn't even responding to you in my first post, it was to Dr. Fapalot. You responding makes it sound as though you yourself feel insecure and attacked. Do you?
Also, your last statement doesn't make sense but if you are complaining about the lack of income, why not get rid. There must be a reason that must be of benefit to you, however little.
Finally, when did I ever condone insults? In my first post I said some people need to be taught a lesson and in my second and last one I said asshole behavior is NEVER acceptable. You putting words in my mouth again to fit your agenda.
 

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I wonder about second solution to Aiden.
But day 18 is so far away.Sophia will be cheating already around that time:)
We only know part of the second
2 GB downloading again for the shit, please ban this game, its kidding the whole board
Obviously you dont like this game so why are you wasting your time here?
 

BoYoYo

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Literally 2 years of teasing lol. 6k per month from "just a side hobby not a business" lmfao. Sorry to the fanboys and the people who know nothing about development, but this has no animations and it's just a ren'py. This is NOT that difficult. If this teasing pace was really necessary for the story, fine. But the updates could and should be happening 3 times faster.
 

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Literally 2 years of teasing lol. 6k per month from "just a side hobby not a business" lmfao. Sorry to the fanboys and the people who know nothing about development, but this has no animations and it's just a ren'py. This is NOT that difficult. If this teasing pace was really necessary for the story, fine. But the updates could and should be happening 3 times faster.
Well if you are a patron go tell him so.Could we see some of you stuff you have made
 

BoYoYo

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Last update 548 renders. 548/75 days (2 1/2 months)=7.3 renders/day. Create scenes +renders. Need hours for this. A lot.
Oh hey there looks like you're EXACTLY the type of kid I was talking to. You take your models, which 99% of the time were purchased from a site instead of drawn up yourself, slap them onto one of your 10 backgrounds, choose one of your 4 facial expressions, maybe bend an arm or a leg, and vualá. And 250 of those 548 "renders" were probably identical lol. It's basically padded numbers and buzzwords for devs to look like they accomplished a lot more than they did. And it works because people don't know anything. Well, I hope you all learned something today, at least the less stubbornly ignorant among you. I'm outta here. Miss me with this long running pseudo patreon scam.
 
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Oh hey there looks like you're EXACTLY the type of kid I was talking to. You take your models, which 99% of the time were purchased from a site instead of drawn up yourself, slap them onto one of your 10 backgrounds, choose one of your 4 facial expressions, maybe bend an arm or a leg, and vualá. And 250 of those 548 "renders" were probably identical lol. It's basically padded numbers and buzzwords for devs to look like they accomplished a lot more than they did. And it works because people don't know anything. Well, I hope you all learned something today, at least the less stubbornly ignorant among you. I'm outta here. Miss me with this long running pseudo patreon scam.
If you are talking with me, I am the one who agree with you :) not against you
 
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Oh hey there looks like you're EXACTLY the type of kid I was talking to. You take your models, which 99% of the time were purchased from a site instead of drawn up yourself, slap them onto one of your 10 backgrounds, choose one of your 4 facial expressions, maybe bend an arm or a leg, and vualá. And 250 of those 548 "renders" were probably identical lol. It's basically padded numbers and buzzwords for devs to look like they accomplished a lot more than they did. And it works because people don't know anything. Well, I hope you all learned something today, at least the less stubbornly ignorant among you. I'm outta here. Miss me with this long running pseudo patreon scam.
Why don't you show us kids how it could be done?
Show us how you take a 3d model, tweek it a little, slap it into a background of your choosing, tweek it a little also, choose a facial expression, bend an arm or a leg and show us how it looks? I bet you never tried it yourself...
There are lot's of daz3d games around, and I'm sure you've noticed the difference in their renders quality. Why does this difference exist if it's so simple as you put it? The fact is, and I know 'cause I tried myself, it's not so simple to do it fast and make it beautiful. And in this game, imho, it is as beautiful as it gets.
 

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Oh hey there looks like you're EXACTLY the type of kid I was talking to. You take your models, which 99% of the time were purchased from a site instead of drawn up yourself, slap them onto one of your 10 backgrounds, choose one of your 4 facial expressions, maybe bend an arm or a leg, and vualá. And 250 of those 548 "renders" were probably identical lol. It's basically padded numbers and buzzwords for devs to look like they accomplished a lot more than they did. And it works because people don't know anything. Well, I hope you all learned something today, at least the less stubbornly ignorant among you. I'm outta here. Miss me with this long running pseudo patreon scam.
I do same renders. Create a scene eats a lot of time, it's about 3-4 characters, lights. Stoper (JOHN) says 1 render=1 hour, talking about his game. So 3-4 hour rendering and the rest ...
 

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anybody know what program is used to generate the 3d characters?
Daz3D - a free program, downloadable from

The specific asset list can be found here, along with other fan art for AWAM/DoL. Doing a search for Daz3D on the forum should yield more information if necessary.
 

roro

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I do same renders. Create a scene eats a lot of time, it's about 3-4 characters, lights. Stoper (JOHN) says 1 render=1 hour, talking about his game. So 3-4 hour rendering and the rest ...
And that's just the rendering time. But before you can render anything, there is a scene to build, and on average it takes even more time (according Stoper, 0.5 hour to 0.5 day).
 
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