Xydal

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i checked lust & passions patreon and saw that he has completed 50% of the game RN and asked myself if this game is a scam or smth? i mean 50% in 3 months, that means we get a new update around june ? xD this woud be 2 updates per year.... i stoped paying him since september last year and i asked myself why people keep paying him for this bullshit.
it is obvious that this game is only there to pull money out of people's pockets
"and i asked myself why people keep paying him for this bullshit" - it's very simple: AWAM's business model is based on constant flow of newcomers, instead of keeping and extending permanent audience. In such model couple updates per year (which are currently less than 1 game day) works fine.
 

Angmir

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Sadly, this is already a done deal & the Dylanisation process has been ongoing for quite some time. It seems that enough fans, or at least a significant minority, are young enough to identify with Dylan to some extent, so the game's popularity hasn't been harmed. Numbers of patrons are still moving upwards. (That excludes people like me. I don't want a second MC. I don't want Dylan as a second MC, etc. .......& the answer came back.... Well actually there was no answer because I'm a pirate on a pirate site, without any say in the matter but it sucks lemons).

As for NTR, I like your use of the term, "screeching" because that's what they do, on every thread where even a hint of NTR is to be found. Why this badly understood, (by western audiences), Japanese phenomena is so unacceptable to many vocal opponents, when incest is taken for granted & even relished, is beyond me. As far as I can think, it possibly also relates to the young age of many fans, as teenage jealousy looms large when relationships become a feature of life. We've all known it but some fans are actually living it, so to speak. [If anybody has a better theory, I would be really interested to hear it. Maybe there's a qualified psychoanalyst out there?]

I am probably close to double Dylans age - and content with him is my favourite part of the game, as shown by polls he did it is also the most popular one. The game has sizeable lesbian fans following and I am happy their are acomodated, but it is not the mayority by any means.

I dont think L&P Ever truely wanted to turn that game into Male MC one, but it might be starting to turning more of a coop with Dylan and Sophia which I advocate for. So far as it doesn't turn the everything the game promised upside down. I would love to see relations of Dylan with other women - especialy Ellie, and only showing that when Sophia is arround would be very limiting.

I wouldn't worry about NTR aspect of the game not beeing there. Liam is getting cucked all the times, It would not suprise me if in certain paths Sam and Dylan too could be a victim of that too, if the author decides to write a stronger darker story.
In the end I am all for L&Ps artistic vision of the game, and I hope he will simply do what he himself had in plans, rather than pandering to this group or that group to please them.

So to sum it up.

1. Sophia will always be in the center of the game, and main MC.
2. Dylan is probably 2nd most important character - and thats great IMHO.
3. Lesbian fans have the least to be affraid off, they are the once that have best chance of actualy seeing hot scenes in the near future.
4. NTR aspect will not be a problem, as it was never a game said from any male perspective. Even if there ever will be scenes that will be putting some poeple uncomfortable - that is their problem not the authors.

So lets all get along and hope for swift development - couse seriously - that is the only problem this game has at this point, everything else is so far top tier.

It seems the update pace is at best 10% per week, and then there probably will be 2 more weeks to wrap it up. So end of April IMHO is the best we can expect.
Which is fucking terrible, after him changing release schedule for faster updates etc...
I am his huge fan, but that whole thing with graphic cards was riddiculous, basicaly someone complaining he has too much money and not knowing what to do with it. Hope the speed really picks up ...
 
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Angmir

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"and i asked myself why people keep paying him for this bullshit" - it's very simple: AWAM's business model is based on constant flow of newcomers, instead of keeping and extending permanent audience. In such model couple updates per year (which are currently less than 1 game day) works fine.
Or maybe not everyone is like you ?
There are tons of people who are supporting this game from the very start, and with every 10 new people some leave at some point, but some stay also. Frankly it is the same with every game out there.

Pace of development is very slow, but acording to MANY people it is best game at the marked currently. (well in my opinion it definetly is best in 3D department, but I havent seen every game out there).

So yeah - attitude - I dont like it, so everyone else should do too - is silly.
 

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Houston, we have a problem! My in-game super cool cellphone gives me different info, that's the start of PD12.


There'a a chance that computational power of CPU's and GPU's 3-5 years from now increases so significantly, that it may be possible to stick to the 60 day plan or shorten it. On the other hand, he'll try to crank up the visuals further with newer versions of DAZ, so it's an enclosed circle.
1. He just gonna do what did now with RTX 3090: increase resolution + details in game = same release time
2. L&P always have some kind issues slowing down the progress: surgery, moving to another location, Graphics card problems, increase of number of renders for each event.
3. The game is getting more complex.

The result is that the game will be getting at the same slow release time but the story will be slower, and this is the reason why people think that L&P is milking the game. Maybe it's true, may be not.
 

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When L&P defended his turn with Dylan, he wrote that at some point it would no longer matterwhether Dylan was the cause of Aiden's quests. I would understand that Sophia finds out aboutthis major mistake from Dylan before completing the task and continues anyway.
So the question is why does it no longer matter?
1st possibility: Sophia is already such a stupidly horny bitch at this point that she cannot wait to get the next task.
2nd possibility: Sophia is now totally submissive and Aiden is recognized as her master.
3rd possibility: Sophia is now in love with Aiden.
4th possibility: Dylan is already involved in the fulfillment of the tasks.
...

By the way, I think that the 3rd task, should it be photos of Sophia in, for example, underwear, would not be so difficult for Sophia to perform. She may have shown herself without a bra threetimes that day. Perhaps that shows the way for future tasks. Aiden wants to corrupt Sophia further, but she is always two steps ahead of him.
It's the 1st possibility which appears to me to be the most likely. This has already been telegraphed by which time it won't be blackmail but a sex-game between consenting parties. Yawn. There also exists IMO, a hideous possibility that Sophia will take the initiative.

We'll have to wait until at least the end of April & possibly later to see if the 3rd task needs photos. I'm guessing it will & could involve Sophia having to be exposed in a public place. It sounds quite erotic in a way but as I've said a few times, it would be an unimaginative waste of a task to ask for selfies when there are so many better things that could be done.
 
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I am probably close to double Dylans age - and content with him is my favourite part of the game, as shown by polls he did it is also the most popular one. The game has sizeable lesbian fans following and I am happy their are acomodated, but it is not the mayority by any means.

I dont think L&P Ever truely wanted to turn that game into Male MC one, but it might be starting to turning more of a coop with Dylan and Sophia which I advocate for. So far as it doesn't turn the everything the game promised upside down. I would love to see relations of Dylan with other women - especialy Ellie, and only showing that when Sophia is arround would be very limiting.

I wouldn't worry about NTR aspect of the game not beeing there. Liam is getting cucked all the times, It would not suprise me if in certain paths Sam and Dylan too could be a victim of that too, if the author decides to write a stronger darker story.
In the end I am all for L&Ps artistic vision of the game, and I hope he will simply do what he himself had in plans, rather than pandering to this group or that group to please them.

So to sum it up.

1. Sophia will always be in the center of the game, and main MC.
2. Dylan is probably 2nd most important character - and thats great IMHO.
3. Lesbian fans have the least to be affraid off, they are the once that have best chance of actualy seeing hot scenes in the near future.
4. NTR aspect will not be a problem, as it was never a game said from any male perspective. Even if there ever will be scenes that will be putting some poeple uncomfortable - that is their problem not the authors.

So lets all get along and hope for swift development - couse seriously - that is the only problem this game has at this point, everything else is so far top tier.

It seems the update pace is at best 10% per week, and then there probably will be 2 more weeks to wrap it up. So end of April IMHO is the best we can expect.
Which is fucking terrible, after him changing release schedule for faster updates etc...
I am his huge fan, but that whole thing with graphic cards was riddiculous, basicaly someone complaining he has too much money and not knowing what to do with it. Hope the speed really picks up ...
I'm all for getting along & I've never suggested Dylan is not important in the AWAM scheme of things but I'll never want him as a second MC. Our Dev has already pandered to the significant minority group of Dylan fans, maybe because the poll confirmed what he already knew. They're the big winners.....if it was a competition. Still, I'm sticking around for now because, like most fans, I'm curious to see what happens next, even if a surfeit of Dylan will have to be the price for this.

NTR is something that may well occur later in the story. I've never felt strongly about it, either way, because, it's a story. What I do feel strongly about is the intemperate way the NTR detractors go bananas whenever it appears. They are everywhere, reacting as though their own boy or girlfriends, wives, husbands or partners were betraying them in front of their very eyes.

As for development times, I suggested a few posts back that late April was a reasonable estimate but I was trying to be positive! If I was a complete cynic I might begin to think that L&P is conducting a bit of an experiment to see if it's possible for the game to go to even fewer updates per annum, while retaining enough supporters to make a good living. No, no, surely not......?
 
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i checked lust & passions patreon and saw that he has completed 50% of the game RN and asked myself if this game is a scam or smth? i mean 50% in 3 months, that means we get a new update around june ? xD this woud be 2 updates per year.... i stoped paying him since september last year and i asked myself why people keep paying him for this bullshit.
it is obvious that this game is only there to pull money out of people's pockets
I absolutely do not understand you and those like you, those who do not approve and "know" why this game is being made!

Please, if it does not bother you, explain the reasons, what is your statement based on?

Just to understand the reasons for my curiosity, no one forces me to pay and no one takes money out of my pocket. Therefore, I am curious how L&P manages to get into your pocket?
 

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I think that the speed is going fine, as L&P is constantly increasing the complexity of development. Of course, he can simplify everything and do it faster, but L&P has set this bar for complexity and does not want simplifications.
Hoped to see other numbers. Apparently L & P does not want me to join the number of those who support him financially. :(
 

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i checked lust & passions patreon and saw that he has completed 50% of the game RN and asked myself if this game is a scam or smth? i mean 50% in 3 months, that means we get a new update around june ? xD this woud be 2 updates per year.... i stoped paying him since september last year and i asked myself why people keep paying him for this bullshit.
it is obvious that this game is only there to pull money out of people's pockets
Really? It's obvious that's what the reason is? I think it's more obvious you're jealous.
 
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just someone believes that there is a principle - "you have to pay for pleasure" - and pays... But I personally unsubscribed from L&P, for the reason that I do not like lezbo incest.
...Just to understand the reasons for my curiosity, no one forces me to pay and no one takes money out of my pocket. Therefore, I am curious how L&P manages to get into your pocket?
 
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