VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[armion82]

Except for a type of exhibitionism (I'm sticking with that) it remains a variant that could use it.
As a biology teacher , Sophia could be made to watch some of Aiden's gang masturbate .Without having to touch them, just watch.

Probably this have to wait for later.No way for task 3.

 

[Old Dog]

On photos that she had to take beforehand?

I really don't see it being a photograph, but this is just a personal opinion,I am sticking with some sort of clothing change.
A sex act will probably happen sometime later as there is only so much that you can with clothes

 

[Bane71]

You blame me for envy?

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

So, is it the logic that politicians and celebrities who have achieved a lot of things should not be criticized for any wrong behavior after success?

Please don't say anything worse than elementary school students.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5367936
)))) It's so funny! Please tell me, my friend, how long ago did the accusation of lying and fraud become known as criticism? When did I sleep through this moment?

 

[zzzz1222]

)))) It's so funny! Please tell me, my friend, how long ago did the accusation of lying and fraud become known as criticism? When did I sleep through this moment?

It doesn't mean you're talking to someone who can't argue logically and sarcastically. That's how you live in your world.

 

[Bane71]

It doesn't mean you're talking to someone who can't argue logically and sarcastically. That's how you live in your world.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5367936
This is extremely far from logic and sarcasm.

I have nothing more to say to you. Have a nice day.

 

[nexer]

On photos that she had to take beforehand?

Like KillJoys said, I think Aiden wants to see her reactions, her face, and a photo doesn't help.

Probably this have to wait for later.No way for task 3.

Maybe. Then a glory hole, a few minutes inside surrounded by 2-3 dicks

 

[Scarlet56]

Okay...

I risk taking facepalms and angering the patrons, but there is a solution to prevent L&P from lingering (and therefore wasting time), and that is to stop paying it.

Let me explain :

The more money L&P has, the more resources he will have to focus on quality and update its equipment.

Better material = more possibilities.
And knowing L&P's concern for perfection, he's bound to waste time trying new things.
Which is legitimate in itself ... BUT not in the middle of an already long production.

L&P should do this before starting a new project.
It's an endless loop.

I think L & P's current material is more than enough to produce something of exceptional quality. We can see it right now. You don't need to waste time experimenting with possibilities now. He has the necessary equipment now we have to concentrate on the current project.

I'm not talking about going faster in terms of production speed here, but only in terms of wasting time.

 

[Alley_Cat]

And how to go full stage at Day 19 with Ellie in the shower? It is in the game files, but it is not shown in the game

Either follow my or Mamoneti's walkthrough, depending on whether or not you want lesbian or full Filthy walkthrough. Mamonetti's walkthrough will get you all the major scenes, depending on whether or not you choose Ellie/Julia or Alyssa.

 

[Catherine1972]

The defaults and qualities of L&P ... Long debate.

But I refuse to speak with a value judgment. Neither in terms of paying L&P nor of non-payment in retaliation.
Everyone agrees at least that the renderings are superb, the plots offered and the scenario incomparable.
Yes, the updates are slow. Speculations have time to be imagined, exposed and debated. They annoy, amuse, pass the time.
Those who don't like it can (and should) be a game-changer.

What is the meaning of this debate? I admit that I don't understand. Apart from heating the spirits. Sometimes entertaining, sometimes informative, sometimes relevant, sometimes unnecessary.

 

[abczzz]

what are the relationshipes in next updata?

 

[Leldorin]

I've been saying that for a while. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. What's the point of having a degree of power over a beautiful, sophisticated woman, if all you can do is ask for a soulless selfie, of a type that almost everyone has had enough of? Any picture sent would need to have the head missing, or the id otherwise obscured, otherwise it would be a way to provide substance for more prolonged blackmail. Pictures of this type are about as sexy as a fried tomato that's been fried too long. Where the head is included there are cases of women schoolteachers being jailed for this type of activity. Let's hope L&P's writing skills are on top form.

We know that the tasks won’t be that extremes until playable day 13 (don’t know if included or not).
Until then, I’m pretty sure she won’t have to do anything that goes beyond what she has done with other characters.(regardless if it makes sense or not).
But that doesn’t mean that we can’t have something different.
I hope that L&p won’t follow the most “cliche” route : Picture of boobs, then ass , then pussy, then handjob, blowjob, etc...
I would prefer something like :
Aiden call Sophia, then they meet. They go to a random shop. Then he chose a random seller and he tell Sophia : I want you to seduce that guy so hard that he will be forced to leave his post to jerk off somewhere. You can use whatever method you want.
Aiden and his gang would have a good laugh seeing the guy running to the restroom.

Or they meet, he gives her a bag and he tells her to go to a sex shop on foot and buy as many porn movies ( or dildo or whatever sexual object)as she can carry and come back So when she’s out of the shop and try to come back as quickly and calmly as possible, the bag broke ( it could have been already damaged by Aiden before he gives it to her) and all it’s content is spread on the street in front of some random people.
Aiden and is gang would be looking from afar .
(Now, I don’t know about that last example, because Sophia has to find some sort of enjoyment in the tasks and it would be mostly humiliating. After all the game is more on the “vanilla” side than the realistic one (for better or worse)
Those are some examples on the top of my head of course and not necessarily I want to happen but I hope it won’t be as predictable as the 2nd task that almost everybody figured out before it happened.

 

[Bane71]

We know that the tasks won’t be that extremes until playable day 13 (don’t know if included or not).
Until then, I’m pretty sure she won’t have to do anything that goes beyond what she has done with other characters.(regardless if it makes sense or not).
But that doesn’t mean that we can’t have something different.
I hope that L&p won’t follow the most “cliche” route : Picture of boobs, then ass , then pussy, then handjob, blowjob, etc...
I would prefer something like :
Aiden call Sophia, then they meet. They go to a random shop. Then he chose a random seller and he tell Sophia : I want you to seduce that guy so hard that he will be forced to leave his post to jerk off somewhere. You can use whatever method you want.
Aiden and his gang would have a good laugh seeing the guy running to the restroom.

Or they meet, he gives her a bag and he tells her to go to a sex shop on foot and buy as many porn movies ( or dildo or whatever sexual object)as she can carry and come back So when she’s out of the shop and try to come back as quickly and calmly as possible, the bag broke ( it could have been already damaged by Aiden before he gives it to her) and all it’s content is spread on the street in front of some random people.
Aiden and is gang would be looking from afar .
(Now, I don’t know about that last example, because Sophia has to find some sort of enjoyment in the tasks and it would be mostly humiliating. After all the game is more on the “vanilla” side than the realistic one (for better or worse)
Those are some examples on the top of my head of course and not necessarily I want to happen but I hope it won’t be as predictable as the 2nd task that almost everybody figured out before it happened.

The idea of arousing some guy in front of Aiden's buddies is exciting.
Of course, other options are possible. I think some actions are necessary in which Sofia needs to prove herself and at the same time these actions will excite Sofia.
Showing tits at this stage, it's already too banal.
We need something creative and interesting, and of course erotic!

 

[abram1]

Okay...

I risk taking facepalms and angering the patrons, but there is a solution to prevent L&P from lingering (and therefore wasting time), and that is to stop paying it.

Let me explain :

The more money L&P has, the more resources he will have to focus on quality and update its equipment.

Better material = more possibilities.
And knowing L&P's concern for perfection, he's bound to waste time trying new things.
Which is legitimate in itself ... BUT not in the middle of an already long production.

L&P should do this before starting a new project.
It's an endless loop.

I think L & P's current material is more than enough to produce something of exceptional quality. We can see it right now. You don't need to waste time experimenting with possibilities now. He has the necessary equipment now we have to concentrate on the current project.

I'm not talking about going faster in terms of production speed here, but only in terms of wasting time.

If there's logic here, then it looks exactly like a shattered window pane. That's a territory of wishful thinking, nothing's wrong with that, but it has nothing to do with the reality.

It's a matter of trust between him and his donors. Some accepted this approach, others decided to part ways with him. What anyone here on this thread thinks about the development time is irrelevant, including myself.

You talk like someone who's life depends on AWAM, that's quite baffling. L&P is an artist in the first place, attempting to achieve his vision. It takes time ... a lot.

What may seem like a lost time for us, for him it's a training ground for mastering skills. You might say "But that's at the expense of the paying audience". Nobody said that life is easy and fair. Patrons and him have found a compromise, the steady growing base of supporters shows what's up.

But there's always an option: people say that dancing with a tambourine around the bonfire during a Moon eclipse, while fully naked and standing on the hands, helps in fulfilling dreams (the plausibility of this method is quite uncertain). Anyone, wanting to speed the process up, feel free to try it out and if AWAM indeed gets updated faster, don't be so shy and tell us about your unforgetable experience.

 

[Catherine1972]

If there's logic here, then it looks exactly like a shattered window pane. That's a territory of wishful thinking, nothing's wrong with that, but it has nothing to do with the reality.

It's a matter of trust between him and his donors. Some accepted this approach, others decided to part ways with him. What anyone here on this thread thinks about the development time is irrelevant, including myself.

You talk like someone who's life depends on AWAM, that's quite baffling. L&P is an artist in the first place, attempting to achieve his vision. It takes time ... a lot.
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What may seem like a lost time for us, for him it's a training ground for mastering skills. You might say "But that's at the expense of the paying audience". Nobody said that life is easy and fair. Patrons and him have found a compromise, the steady growing base of supporters shows what's up.

But there's always an option: people say that dancing with a tambourine around the bonfire during a Moon eclipse, while fully naked and standing on the hands, helps in fulfilling dreams (the plausibility of this method is quite uncertain). Anyone, wanting to speed the process up, feel free to try it out and if AWAM indeed gets updated faster, don't be so shy and tell us about your unforgetable experience.

I know Scarlet56 and I don't think I'm going against his thought by intervening.

We are not talking here about taking sides for or against L&P.
Simply, it is not really opportune to train in the middle of a game. Before or after so that the next one is even better.
No one doubts the quality of what L&P does here. Renderings and history, as already said dozens of times.

Have a life that depends on AWAM ??
This is a bit of a stretch, for all of us here. There are passionate people, I prefer to say it like that.

 

[Bane71]

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The 4th paragraph down could be interpreted in many ways depending on how you look at it.
Aidens task will not be that extreme at all or Aidens task will not be that extreme till after day 17.
We do know that no rape/violence will happen in this game.

My friend, I didn't say anything about extreme things! I'm talking about creativity, an interesting, sexy event that will not leave Sofia and us indifferent.

 

[nexer]

Certain decisions before .
What could it be? Does it have something to do with Aiden? Or is it something else?

 

[Old Dog]

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Certain decisions before .
What could it be? Does it have something to do with Aiden? Or is it something else?

Depends my friend on certain choices and people

 

[Bane71]

If there's logic here, then it looks exactly like a shattered window pane. That's a territory of wishful thinking, nothing's wrong with that, but it has nothing to do with the reality.

It's a matter of trust between him and his donors. Some accepted this approach, others decided to part ways with him. What anyone here on this thread thinks about the development time is irrelevant, including myself.

You talk like someone who's life depends on AWAM, that's quite baffling. L&P is an artist in the first place, attempting to achieve his vision. It takes time ... a lot.
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What may seem like a lost time for us, for him it's a training ground for mastering skills. You might say "But that's at the expense of the paying audience". Nobody said that life is easy and fair. Patrons and him have found a compromise, the steady growing base of supporters shows what's up.

But there's always an option: people say that dancing with a tambourine around the bonfire during a Moon eclipse, while fully naked and standing on the hands, helps in fulfilling dreams (the plausibility of this method is quite uncertain). Anyone, wanting to speed the process up, feel free to try it out and if AWAM indeed gets updated faster, don't be so shy and tell us about your unforgetable experience.

I personally agree with you and Scarlet56 as well, I believe you both have similar views! Scarlet56 does not make a claim, as far as I understand, he makes a recommendation and it is in my opinion constructive. There is no limit to perfection, at some level a reasonable solution for L&P is needed. Of course, first of all, the consent and support of his patrons is important for him, but this does not prevent us from reasoning and expressing our opinion.

 

[roro]

He promised short content and an update three times faster.

But criticizing it because it was an obvious lie.

You're calling him a liar, but are you 100% sure he's lying?
I on the other hand know 100% you're lying, because he never promised "an update three times faster".

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

))) that's what's strange to me! How exactly do you determine that 2500 renderers are worthless?
Why, my friend, don't you understand that this is your subjective assessment?!

For example, I am 100% satisfied with this approach, otherwise it would be similar to everything that is on the network. I'm not interested in everything else, I like what L&P does.

You have a completely different creative approach with him, you are different! This does not mean that one of you is right, it only means a difference in approaches!

You can probably be a great porn director. L&P creates a visual novel, and this is something else. We will definitely come to porn, but after a long journey.
I think so.

if you see my comments you'll see Im neither in favour or against story telling going straight to porn. It doesn't matter to me.
My interest in this is purely business, as I believe this will be a big niche in 5-10 years.

What I'm saying is that he could use his superb rendering abbilities to do something better and an actual better game while probably making 2x or 3x more.

Gladly, people have caught up to his ways so until he steps up his earnings wont step up.