Alley_Cat

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I'm only waiting for steamy lesbian sex with Ellie and Patricia, the rest is just icing. That shower scene was just too much of a tease, it's almost criminal.
Do you mean Ellie and Sophia?
Those museum boys really tied the game together.
And yet, Jason and Haru were not considered important enough to be given as an option in the favourite character poll, like Neil, Ryan, Tyler and Bennett
 

ashitanojoe

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1440p != 2k. 2k screens are very uncommon, FullHD is much closer to 2k than WQHD.



If you can't see a difference between 4k and FullHD source on a 4k screen, then: a) you are blind as a bat b) you're sitting way too far from the screen, no matter what size the screen is (to some extent). Btw. your "2k" sample is not even close to "2k" (3383 × 1440 pixels @ 100% quality and 4,3 MB file size, while the 4k sample is @ 90% and 1,1 MB file size)



D'oh!


:FacePalm:



Once again, it's an upscale. Why are you mixing and comparing two different things, details and resolution?
the fact you noticed plastic effect is interesting : it can depend on my noise-remover settings during the upscale process because I raised this settings a lot because of the original quality of the first renders. I used the same setting for this one too.
Maybe it wasn't optimal.

another zoom-in example :

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In the original picture attached, the face looks focused.


You did a zoom in with my picture and compared with your beautiful picture , that's not fair dude :p . Plus like someone else said, that's just an upscale not an original picture rendered in 4k. I'm not pretending doing miracles, just enhance renders a little bit as best as I can.

I'm confused, i thought you've got a 4k screen because of replying to my poll. If not , it's normal that your feedback are biased
(Me too with my 1440p screen)
That's why I said in my first post that the most people don't know that some TVs labeled as 4K don't give you a 4k image in full size, because of the TV size, it's a marketing strategy. 4K means 2160p, that is the double than 1080p. So, if I have a 1080p TV of 37", which gives me full 1080p definition, a 4K TV should be the double at least, 74".

Look, I have a 47" 4K curve Samsung TV. I observed there both sample images that I shared, the 4k one and the 1440p one, and I tell you both images look perfectly defined. There's no significant diferences, because none of the images lacks definition, both are completely nitid. I can watch 1440p with almos full definition in my 4k TV because the TV isn't that big. But, in a 75" 4K TV the 1440p will lose significant definition, and the 4K image will not lose anything, then you can perceive significant differences.

Something else, besides the resolution and definition, there's HDR, which is relative to colours. Something that my 4K TV has. I put it in this way, I perceive more differences between a 4k HDR image and a 4K image, than a 4k image and a 1440p image. The thing is that not all 4K movies or videos have HDR. But when you watch something in HDR the experience is marvellous, the image is richer in colour tones, the three dimensionality increases, the image has more depth. That's the principal quality of my 4K TV, but HDR (high dynamic range) has nothing to do with resolution or definition, it's about colours, lights and shadows.

I understand that you F4iunyl3x are trying to upscale 720p to 4k, and you certainly increased the definition. But I'm being honest here, you didn't reach the definition of a 4K nor a 1440p in the first images you showed us, so you shouldn't call them 4K nor 1440p images, I think that you don't even reach the definition of a 1080p in none of those first images, despite of the resolutions they have. If you give us an image that hasn't the 1080p definition and sell us as a 4k image, it's like you were cheating. I understand that it could be very difficult, but you shoud go step by step, based in the first images that you shared, you are far away of achieving a 4k image. That's why I compared your upscaled images to those standard 4k images I found in the web. I used my 1080p TV and not the 4K one for that, because is the TV that I have connected to the PC, but it doesn't matter really.

Edit: In my previous post I didn't notice that the forum didn't allow me to upload the sample image in 4K, the original resolution is 5000x2160, and was converted automatically to a lower resolution. It seems that you can't surpass 3840 here. But still I did the test with the original images and there are not significant differences between the 1440p image and the 4K image in a 47" 4K TV.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Just finished the current version, pretty interesting game. Love all the slow build up to.. something! Character designs are also pretty good! I'm looking forward to playing the next part. Keep up the good work!
What's your favourite character so far? And is there a particular event you're looking forward to in the next part?
 

Trash+Sombra

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I don't understand... now four months development for half playable day? :unsure: That means ten years to the end. :eek:
the renders might be what takes a bit of time to do not sure his gpu and pc specs are but it has to be something thats good since i think he renders at 1080p but yea half a day for 5 mounts seems very bad when other vn on this site would have way more content
 

Alley_Cat

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I mean Sophia with both Ellie and her sister, once I can get that I'm happy.
Well Ellie will need to act on her curiosity on who is a better kisser between her mother and aunt first. And Sophia actually becoming comfortable with enjoying kissing Ellie in the shower, so there's still a while to go yet.

But we'll see after this update. While some have been speculating Morello to be the catalyst for Sophia finally cheating on Liam, I'm beginning to think it'll be Patricia first.
 

GPsarakis

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Well Ellie will need to act on her curiosity on who is a better kisser between her mother and aunt first. And Sophia actually becoming comfortable with enjoying kissing Ellie in the shower, so there's still a while to go yet.

But we'll see after this update. While some have been speculating Morello to be the catalyst for Sophia finally cheating on Liam, I'm beginning to think it'll be Patricia first.
Hooking up with Patricia first would be fine, that'd lead into Ellie better just like kissing her in the shower came after kissing Patricia at the club. Following that same order with a steady build up to the main show makes sense.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Hooking up with Patricia first would be fine, that'd lead into Ellie better just like kissing her in the shower came after kissing Patricia at the club. Following that same order with a steady build up to the main show makes sense.
Also Sophia has known Patricia the longest so is more likely to trust her than anyone else in the game. But Patricia has an open marriage and has been encouraging Sophia to be more open since day 2, and not just on the lesbian side of things (like the museum boys)
 

Jagadeesh

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the fact you noticed plastic effect is interesting : it can depend on my noise-remover settings during the upscale process because I raised this settings a lot because of the original quality of the first renders. I used the same setting for this one too.
Maybe it wasn't optimal.

another zoom-in example :

View attachment 723576

In the original picture attached, the face looks focused.


You did a zoom in with my picture and compared with your beautiful picture , that's not fair dude :p . Plus like someone else said, that's just an upscale not an original picture rendered in 4k. I'm not pretending doing miracles, just enhance renders a little bit as best as I can.

I'm confused, i thought you've got a 4k screen because of replying to my poll. If not , it's normal that your feedback are biased
(Me too with my 1440p screen)
GIGA PIXEL??
 

Xydal

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Just finished the current version, pretty interesting game. Love all the slow build up to.. something! Character designs are also pretty good! I'm looking forward to playing the next part. Keep up the good work!
Congratulations! You are hooked as most of us in this forum. Now keep calm (or meditate on eternity) and wait till next update, then next one and so on.
 
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F4iunyl3x

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That's why I said in my first post that the most people don't know that some TVs labeled as 4K don't give you a 4k image in full size, because of the TV size, it's a marketing strategy. 4K means 2160p, that is the double than 1080p. So, if I have a 1080p TV of 37", which gives me full 1080p definition, a 4K TV should be the double at least, 74".

Look, I have a 47" 4K curve Samsung TV. I observed there both sample images that I shared, the 4k one and the 1440p one, and I tell you both images look perfectly defined. There's no significant diferences, because none of the images lacks definition, both are completely nitid. I can watch 1440p with almos full definition in my 4k TV because the TV isn't that big. But, in a 75" 4K TV the 1440p will lose significant definition, and the 4K image will not lose anything, then you can perceive significant differences.

Something else, besides the resolution and definition, there's HDR, which is relative to colours. Something that my 4K TV has. I put it in this way, I perceive more differences between a 4k HDR image and a 4K image, than a 4k image and a 1440p image. The thing is that not all 4K movies or videos have HDR. But when you watch something in HDR the experience is marvellous, the image is richer in colour tones, the three dimensionality increases, the image has more depth. That's the principal quality of my 4K TV, but HDR (high dynamic range) has nothing to do with resolution or definition, it's about colours, lights and shadows.

I understand that you F4iunyl3x are trying to upscale 720p to 4k, and you certainly increased the definition. But I'm being honest here, you didn't reach the definition of a 4K nor a 1440p in the first images you showed us, so you shouldn't call them 4K nor 1440p images, I think that you don't even reach the definition of a 1080p in none of those first images, despite of the resolutions they have. If you give us an image that hasn't the 1080p definition and sell us as a 4k image, it's like you were cheating. I understand that it could be very difficult, but you shoud go step by step, based in the first images that you shared, you are far away of achieving a 4k image. That's why I compared your upscaled images to those standard 4k images I found in the web. I used my 1080p TV and not the 4K one for that, because is the TV that I have connected to the PC, but it doesn't matter really.

Edit: In my previous post I didn't notice that the forum didn't allow me to upload the sample image in 4K, the original resolution is 5000x2160, and was converted automatically to a lower resolution. It seems that you can't surpass 3840 here. But still I did the test with the original images and there are not significant differences between the 1440p image and the 4K image in a 47" 4K TV.
You say that my pictures are not in 4k: They don't have certainly the same quality I agree with this, but ... they are composed by 3840 pixels in width by 2160 pixels in height. So, this IS a 4k picture. You're quite confusing because you keep mixing up terms like definition, detail and overall quality.
i also wanted to show that AI upscale can do (a little) better than upscale previous methods.
The main advantage is that AI upscale is a soft and "non-invasive" process that does not alter much the overall appearance of the picture and keep original details that L&P created in his game.
This being said, it has its limits because at this point AI can't create new details from out of nowhere :unsure:
To create a "real 4k picture" like you said, we'd have to re-render each picture or wait for a miracle AI software :LOL:
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to make a detailed response. (y)
 

Hlextor

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I think when the Dylan "roadmap" came out someone used the term, which is why I use it now. What I find curious about the Dylan roadmap is that it is the only one we have that includes up to the final day, and that in the final 12 days, half of them have no Dylan events. Which implies that even if you don't send Dylan to boarding school, towards the end of the game we won't see much of Dylan. And this final 12 day point is right after you have another opportunity to end Aiden's tasks
Where did you get the information? It isn’t right. I’ve asked him. He mentioned he changed few things with him. And Dylan will have on almost all days an event. Similar to Ellie. Dylan is the main character before Ellie and (than) Sam.
 
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