VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[momojean]

I see a lot of people here are very excited about L & P's promises of a huge surprise by the next update. According to the many speculations here it looks like it's a matter of adding some animations into the game, which is really neither a surprise, nor an improvement which would require so much infatuation and waste of time.
Enthusiasts and believers here should understand that no improvement and no waste of time that does not go in the direction of increasing the pace of the game and bringing the updates closer is no more, no less than an attempt to do make the game last even longer.

And whatever changes L&P would bring to the game, people should mostly focus on how long the playable day would take Because it is the only benchmark for speeding up the game. And not fooling people by delivering small quick updates with no content and pretending that it is going faster. playable day is the key word in this game. And people shouldn't be fooled by anything else. Otherwise, you'll never see the end of it.

 

[armion82]

In order for an LP to remain as a great producer, an update should be performed once a month, which is now, and it should reach PD 15 days by the end of this year.

Even if he menage to deliver 1 update each month,there is no way to reach PD 15 this year.
After all PD 13 will be 10 updates-at least 10 months.No way to finish PD 14 in only 2 months.
Not to mention I am not sure he can even menage to finish PD 13 this year and start PD 14.

 

[darji]

Even if he menage to deliver 1 update each month,there is no way to reach PD 15 this year.
After all PD 13 will be 10 updates-at least 10 months.No way to finish PD 14 in only 2 months.
Not to mention I am not sure he can even menage to finish PD 13 this year and start PD 14.

where did you get the 10 updates from? we get a whole morning in the new update.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

If he has hired good animators, I think the animations will be high quality. He's a perfectionist and an artist, he isn't going to settle for those janky animations like some games have.

Games like AWAM? Have you seen its 5 image gif animations?

 

[armion82]

where did you get the 10 updates from? we get a whole morning in the new update.

PD 13 is split on 10 parts-10 updates.What you don't understand?

 

[momojean]

To be fair AWAM is a far superior game. That game has a fun IDEA but its also extremely unrealistic and forced. AWAM is far from perfect but its much more composed and natural

Don't try to move to another topic. We're talking here about devs attitude and not game quality. Even if I find the art in MMC of top quality.

 

[Why are you gae?]

He need to run for presidential election we need more honest man like him

Yes, let us overreact and idolize.

 

[hzjujk]

I would like to add to my argument about the Morello / Sophia event one more consideration that is new to me. So far I have always argued that Sophia needs something in return to meet Larry again or to work for Morello. Maybe there is some form of quid pro quo from Morello but it will not be the incentive for Sophia.
When Sophia meets Morello again, he doesn't have to offer her anything at all for her to visit Larry in prison again. I think we are confronted here with another sexual fantasy / dream / fetish. Beautiful, socially well-connected and financially secure but bored woman meets the bad guys and she sees adventure, strong men and unbridled sex. I'd almost bet that L&P does the same thing here as they did with Sam. With Sam, it was the dream from the past about life with a rock star. A dream from the past that Sophia now wants to fulfill. With Larry, Sophia will have the opportunity to fulfill another fantasy, and that will be incentive enough to risk her whole life.
When it comes, it will be interesting if the dream with Sam collides with this new dream.
It has been suggested here many times, but the possibility of Morello asking for photos of Sophia for his brother is now again plausible to me.

 

[nexer]

I would like to add to my argument about the Morello / Sophia event one more consideration that is new to me. So far I have always argued that Sophia needs something in return to meet Larry again or to work for Morello. Maybe there is some form of quid pro quo from Morello but it will not be the incentive for Sophia.
When Sophia meets Morello again, he doesn't have to offer her anything at all for her to visit Larry in prison again. I think we are confronted here with another sexual fantasy / dream / fetish. Beautiful, socially well-connected and financially secure but bored woman meets the bad guys and she sees adventure, strong men and unbridled sex. I'd almost bet that L&P does the same thing here as they did with Sam. With Sam, it was the dream from the past about life with a rock star. A dream from the past that Sophia now wants to fulfill. With Larry, Sophia will have the opportunity to fulfill another fantasy, and that will be incentive enough to risk her whole life.
When it comes, it will be interesting if the dream with Sam collides with this new dream.
It has been suggested here many times, but the possibility of Morello asking for photos of Sophia for his brother is now again plausible to me.

That leaves the two photos Dylan kept. These could be the first two that Larry could get.
Something for and about Larry will be. "Cumare" has to stand for something.

 

[hzjujk]

That leaves the two photos Dylan kept. These could be the first two that Larry could get.
Something for and about Larry will be. "Cumare" has to stand for something.

It could also result in the next photo session with Dylan. Sophia doesn't even have to explain to Dylan for when she takes the pictures, Dylan will jump on the bandwagon voluntarily. And possibly get a cuckold point again.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Well based on this it is supposed to be playable day 15. And Day 15 is basically entirely Patricia. So to me the assumption is Patricia.

And the ranch is on playable Day 15.

I too am all for Patricia opening the lesbian sex count.

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Also something that attracts my attention is that playable Day 16 has quite a number of sex scenes. Also both Hetero scenes are labelled as "Big", none of the Lesbian scenes are.

Playable Day 17 says a sexual lesbian scene which is most likely Alyssa. Since lesbian sex with Alyssa will feel rushed. So the "sexual" is going to be good enough as progress with Alyssa.

So Playable Days 13 & 14 to go - and then over the following 5 days (PD15 - PD19) Sophia will have two hetero sex scenes and 4 lesbian sex / sexual scenes!! And of those, 5 sex/sexual scenes in just 3 days (PD15-PD17)!!!

PD15: 1st lesbian sex scene makes total sense to be Patricia at ranch, away from prying eyes.
PD16: 1*lesbian +2*hetero sex scenes - what are the odds that it will Ellie, Sam and Aiden??
PD17: 3rd lesbian sexual scene make sense to be Alyssa as that's when we are due to see her again.

Do we yet know the breakdown for scenes on PD16??

 

[palmtrees89]

where did you get the 10 updates from? we get a whole morning in the new update.

Aren't you a patron? L&P split playable day 13 into 10 updates. He's currently working on update 1 out of 10 for a single playable day. So if each update takes him 2+ months to complete, L&P will need 20+ months for just this playable day 13. You do the math on how much development time that'll likely result in for the remaining 17 playable days to come.

How could you possibly miss that?

 

[Hornyman2]

When new update ??

 

[xxxorro]

So Playable Days 13 & 14 to go - and then over the following 5 days (PD15 - PD19) Sophia will have two hetero sex scenes and 4 lesbian sex / sexual scenes!! And of those, 5 sex/sexual scenes in just 3 days (PD15-PD17)!!!

PD15: 1st lesbian sex scene makes total sense to be Patricia at ranch, away from prying eyes.
PD16: 1*lesbian +2*hetero sex scenes - what are the odds that it will Ellie, Sam and Aiden??
PD17: 3rd lesbian sexual scene make sense to be Alyssa as that's when we are due to see her again.

Do we yet know the breakdown for scenes on PD16??

No we are still waiting for the breakdown of PD 14 he promised some weeks ago.
At the moment, just to complete your breakdown, we know either from various sources or because they are "routine" events (e.g. classes):

PD 14 - Day 21 - Saturday

• 1 Ellie event, probably another shower in the morning but that's just speculation
• 3rd day of the 1st side job, we were left with Sophia promising to were the skimpy nurse dress
• the museum guys in the evening

PD 15 - Day 22 - Sunday
[1st lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 3 playable days]

• ranch event with Patricia at her friend Zoey place, probably all day long. Sophia will get the invitation from Patricia on Saturday if she spent the day with Alyssa instead of going to Yoga on PD 11.

PD 16 - Day 23 - Monday
[1st big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]

• there are "several Ellie's events spread out over the day" (aka Ellie's day) and the return of the sauna guys Tyler and Logan(thanks adolfo)
  • Dylan/Ellie storyline is supposed to end here
• She usually does not teach on Mondays so if there's an Aiden event it's likely to be out-of-school (in the afternoon), but after what happened in v0.161 she will meet Aiden and they are going to have a "have a 'private chat' on Monday at school" .
• "Something definitely really "wild" what is not with the husband [...] and it will be something no one will definitely expect at the moment!" as per L&P old quote

PD 17 - Day 24 - Tuesday
[3rd big lesbian sex(ual) scene with an important character: Within the next 5 playable days]

• 2 Ellie's events
• She is teaching on Tuesdays and probably there will be the first sport lesson if the school gym is ready (after the "usual" Literature class)
• 2nd optional solution for Aiden (less comfortable than Morello)
• Alyssa will be back and they are likely to meet at soccer practice ("I think Tuesday next week when our boys have soccer practice will be the earliest we can see each other again.")

PD 18 - Day 25 - Wednesday

• Biology class, likely another Aiden's task
• The 1st chance to get rid of Bennett (source)
• [unconfirmed/unreliable] Around this time or the next days the side jobs might end but there could be an option to continue them later on. More recent intel says the 1st job could be there till the end of the game.

PD 19 - Day 26 - Thursday
[4th lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 7 playable days]

• 2 Ellie's events

PD 20 - Day 27 - Thursday

• Literature class, likely another Aiden's task

PS
Guys just FYI you can now get all this and other info from "Information & Guide" in the OP

which links to Apollodore 's awesome post --> https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-150-lust-passion.5944/post-5196619

 

[Bane71]

Don't try to move to another topic. We're talking here about devs attitude and not game quality. Even if I find the art in MMC of top quality.

You and many others discuss L&P every day, but for some reason you forget that many, namely most, play AWAM, that is, they received the product completely free of charge. Don't you care about this question?
It's not that L&P doesn't deserve criticism, the fact is that many assessments here are extremely one-sided and biased.

 

[Ntwaidumella]

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there is an interesting patch from here boysss

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

You and many others discuss L&P every day, but for some reason you forget that many, namely most, play AWAM, that is, they received the product completely free of charge. Don't you care about this question?
It's not that L&P doesn't deserve criticism, the fact is that many assessments here are extremely one-sided and biased.

From both points of view. Oh that would actually make sense since they are Points of view.

 

[Sabertooth__]

You and many others discuss L&P every day, but for some reason you forget that many, namely most, play AWAM, that is, they received the product completely free of charge. Don't you care about this question?
It's not that L&P doesn't deserve criticism, the fact is that many assessments here are extremely one-sided and biased.

I am still waiting for these "everyday critiques" to answer what is their purpose with saying the same thing everyday.
Maybe the question finally is giving them an opportunity to self reflect on what they are actually doing and why is it necessary to spend time of their days complaining here regularly.

 

[Deleted member 3853862]

How many of you would love to see, Pixil's continuition of Aiden & Sophia's story at Art class from Xavier's? That would be a great idea!

 

[Gandhifire]

I think Awam's storyline detoriated a bit due to the insistance of many members for a comfortable solution to Aiden.

If peeps remember L&P was very reluctant to change his story, that is why he had to incorporate such lousy Sophia & Dylan storyline at the park with hobos and making the Art class so big and bland to accommodate the minimum corruption he needed.

We should blame ourselves for the poor storyline being created.