sept0342

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You are right. But we should also consider that Sam's release (v0.175) then slowed its pace because of the animations and also because of that thing about merging the two scenes he said it took some time (and he never explained). If what he said about having already prepared everything for the animation(s) so that they can be worked in parallel is true, then **maybe** this one will have a more "steady" pace. We will see.
Here is the % progress wrt the production days (counting from the first post with a change in % to have a common baseline for all) where I highlighted the current v0.185 and Sam's v0.175 for reference.

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The other question is the number of renders for this event. Since this time he planned ahead he should already have a good ballpark of the size of the event.
If we play the usual game of trying to guess the final number of renders from the graph of the number of renders Vs production days to align the different "paces", here are some hypothesis for

250 renders (it would be a very slow pace in terms of render/days)
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300 renders (it would be aligned or close to the previous release v0.180 which had all the problems we know in terms of production)
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350 renders (it would be getting closer to the past releases)
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400 (it **seems** a reasonable amount for a pace in his previous standard)
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450 (another record breaking release? It would be close to v0.175, at least initially because the latter then had a change in pace)
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So something in between 400 and 450? Another big one? :unsure:
What did you use to make this?
 
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What did you use to make this?
You mean the graphs? I collect the data in a google sheet and those are just graphs made with google sheet with the different hypothesis for the number of renders.

The lower (300) and upper (400) bounds he gave make sense as they enclose most of the recent releases:
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But let's not forget his capacity of underestimating the final number of renders. For v0.180 when we were around 60%CS - 60%RS he said "maybe 200?" and in the end they were 290. And we all remember the incredibly growing number of renders for Sam's event.
So, as usual, it's an academic exercise to be taken with a lot of grains of salt ;)
 
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sept0342

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You mean the graphs? I collect the data in a google sheet and those are just graphs made with google sheet with the different hypothesis for the number of renders.

The lower (300) and upper (400) bounds he gave make sense as they enclose most of the recent releases:

But let's not forget his capacity of underestimating the final number of renders. For v0.180 when we were around 60%CS - 60%RS he said "maybe 200?" and in the end they were 290. And we all remember the incredibly growing number of renders for Sam's event.
So, as usual, it's an academic exercise to be taken with a lot of grains of salt ;)
Do you collect all the data? wow man, kudos to you
 

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It is the characters around Sophia that drive the story forward, not Sophia herself. Also, please remember, AWAM is about Sophia and her role as wife and mother. It only makes sense that Dylan and Ellie get more space here. Also, I think it's good to bring Dylan forward even a bit more. After all he has to seduce both his mother and his sister. That takes time. :LOL:

Sorry, but the stories around Dylan make the whole game worth playing from my point of view. Even Sam only gains weight in the story through his role as a competitor to Dylan. Without Dylan, AWAM just wouldn't work. He has the best overarching stories next to Sophia. I'm even curious to see the story between Dylan and Ellie accelerates.
Except that your argument is for Dylan "and Ellie" to get more space, as wife and mother. For this argument to be valid, Ellie should be getting roughly the same screentime as Dylan. She is roughly as popular as Dylan, yet Dylan has his own bonus storyline, own POV etc that only detract from her personal storyline. And Sophia's.
Aiden is just another example of Sophia always only being reactive in this game and not having any motivation of her own. If this story would have been told from Dylan's perspective (using the initial concept) it would had a lot more potential. For example, if Dylan (and therefore the player) had been given the option to start or aviod this story arc from the beginning, this would have happened out of a self-motivation (from Dylan to corrup his mother or to keep his mother to himself and find other ways ...). If L&P would have kept this story shorter (max. 2 tasks), this would have really allowed for a lot of entanglement and interesting story telling, without wasting too much time.

Aynway, My problem with Aiden is that I just don't buy his gangster persona. Let alone the fact that Sophia as a teacher at the school is displayed as someone that has no way to defend herself and Dylan is unbelievable at best. I find all the gangsters in AWAM sort of out of place and unnecessary.
So a Dylan storyline is taking away from Sophia being the proper MC. Again, that's an argument for less Dylan content, not more. Not complete removal, but enough to let her be more reactive.
 

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It is the characters around Sophia that drive the story forward, not Sophia herself. Also, please remember, AWAM is about Sophia and her role as wife and mother. It only makes sense that Dylan and Ellie get more space here. Also, I think it's good to bring Dylan forward even a bit more. After all he has to seduce both his mother and his sister. That takes time. :LOL:

Sorry, but the stories around Dylan make the whole game worth playing from my point of view. Even Sam only gains weight in the story through his role as a competitor to Dylan. Without Dylan, AWAM just wouldn't work. He has the best overarching stories next to Sophia. I'm even curious to see the story between Dylan and Ellie accelerates.
That's becaues L&P is a male trying to write from the perspective of a female, and not understanding fully what that means. So L&P keeps inserting Dylan into the story more and more as he can relate far better to Dylan than Sophia and her struggles. I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but it's why L&P needs a small group of people to sound board off of so that he can gain different perspectives. Dylan just feels like an insert character and the "hero" of the story, Sophia is just the lens through which we watch the story.

So many of the different story threads tie directly to Dylan, because Dylan is the more relatable character to L&P. Bennet's blackmail. Aiden's blackmail. The Sam/Amber/Dylan MILF-off thing. Christine/Marie/Emma all being love interests to Dylan; even though Emma was telegraphed as a lesbian route interest for Sophia, Marie and, specifically, Claire as swinger type route, and Christine seemed way more tied to Ellie's story than to Dylan. Dylan is active in multiple sports and is learning martial arts to defend himself, we've spent multiple scenes following those plot lines. Two scenes have been dedicated to Dylan getting a haircut.

It's confounding since there are other family members whos lives should also be affecting Sophia and her story. What has happened in Ellie's life that has affected the story? Kissed a girl at the pool, and asked her mother some pretty benal, at least so far, things about sex. And we've spent one scene at the dance studio, one in the dressing room, and one short scene with Ellie smoking a cigarette with Christine, that Dylan takes a part in unless sent away to the boarding school. What about Patricia? Encouraged Sophia to go out to a club and to a galla event at a museum, and introduced Sophia to Claire. Patricia has done little else in the story besides introduce Sophia to someone else. You know what most of these scenes have in common? They all came very early in the story. The longer the story has gone on, the more focus has shifted in Dylans favor, when he was already getting as much time as the rest of the family.

I absolutely cheered when Liam got in trouble at the casino, because finally someone else was having an effect on the family and it was a fire that wasn't directly tied to Dylan that Sophia had to put out. It was supposed to make Liam out like a bad guy, and I turned around and created a goodwife savefile solely because of this event.

My problem with Dylan isn't that it's Dylan, it's that he isn't Sophia. I enjoyed the early parts of this story, specifically because Sophia seemed like a well written character. Most of the early filthy options weren't even filthy, but iwere pretty innocous things like giving a phone number to a galla coordinator or enduring a hug that would make most people uncomfortable. Same goes with most of the lesbian temptations; rubbing sunscreen on a daughter's back, complimenting the looks of another woman, have a bathtowel lowered during a massage. It planted all these seeds for what could become of Sophia, and now for the last twoish year it feels like to story has drifted further away from all these early plot points so that Dylan can take up more focus.
 

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After thinking about it a lot, I honestly don't think Sophia and Dylan will take a bath together in part 1, think about it, if that happens, what's left for part 2? Will they play Elden Ring on Dylan's PC for the rest of the night? IMO I think that Dylan will take Sophia to the basketball game, they will return late, Harris would have already left, Liam will have fallen asleep and they will decide to take a bath in the Jacuzzi, this following the plan they had in PD 12 to have a massage after the exercises, I think all the teaser of Sophia in a bikini is if she decides not to go with Dylan ergo she will take the bath alone in the Jacuzzi not in the bathroom, why you would put a bikini if your going to take a solo bath inside the house??! All will happen outside
 

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After thinking about it a lot, I honestly don't think Sophia and Dylan will take a bath together in part 1, think about it, if that happens, what's left for part 2? Will they play Elden Ring on Dylan's PC for the rest of the night? IMO I think that Dylan will take Sophia to the basketball game, they will return late, Harris would have already left, Liam will have fallen asleep and they will decide to take a bath in the Jacuzzi, this following the plan they had in PD 12 to have a massage after the exercises, I think all the teaser of Sophia in a bikini is if she decides not to go with Dylan ergo she will take the bath alone in the Jacuzzi not in the bathroom, why you would put a bikini if your going to take a solo bath inside the house??! All will happen outside
According to L&P, they will do something before the jacuzzi and they'll have more privacy. Therefore, the jacuzzi is implied for part 2.
 
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After thinking about it a lot, I honestly don't think Sophia and Dylan will take a bath together in part 1, think about it, if that happens, what's left for part 2? Will they play Elden Ring on Dylan's PC for the rest of the night? IMO I think that Dylan will take Sophia to the basketball game, they will return late, Harris would have already left, Liam will have fallen asleep and they will decide to take a bath in the Jacuzzi, this following the plan they had in PD 12 to have a massage after the exercises, I think all the teaser of Sophia in a bikini is if she decides not to go with Dylan ergo she will take the bath alone in the Jacuzzi not in the bathroom, why you would put a bikini if your going to take a solo bath inside the house??! All will happen outside
Outside in the hot tub with Dylan, where everyone can watch them both. By everyone I mean Sam among others. Sam as Cuck - I want to see the whining here in the forum.
For this reason and the incest reason I would rule out an event at the pool.
 
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