VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[rAmSiMaL]

Oh, I see, so 3 alternatives are coming in the next events (might be 2 if LP drops Dylan/Emma event). Thank you.

Actually 4 alternatives...
- Dylan / Sophia
- Dylan / Christine / Ellie
- Dylan / Marie
- Dylan / Emma (most likely to be dropped)

 

[Julius Ash]

1. He started developping the game around four teen and is now in his late teen years

2. He's not a he

But yeah, putting romance and made them make out before every potential sex partner is not the real world but the game is not it anyway.

To me apperars that he started developement when was 14 yo and now is 10 yo ( you know, kid with big ego want always to appear much old then his 9 yo)

 

[tofhdns]

Looking at the schedule, the update will be suspended for a while after Christine's party.

That's when the LP will start working on the steam and the development period will start for 3 months after that.

But I don't know what LP is going to post on Steam.

No sex and that's not a romance simulation game and I don't know what the content is there to sell this game to Steam.

I've seen games sold to Steam and stopped developing a few times, so somehow I have a little anxiety that LP is going to sell this game to Steam and run away.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

What happens if you're not playing the bonus storyline? How does Dylan get the invite to Christine's?

He screwed up that part. It works if you are on the path, then it is Christine, but he makes it sound like it's not Christine per the walkthrough, but if you are not on the path, then it's a different Christine they are talking about in that scene.

When I played through it, I found it odd that she didn't know it was Christine, period, or ask if it was Ellie's friend because if you have Ellie's path active with Sophia, Sophia tries to convenience Ellie to hook Christine up with Dylan. Sophia knows who Christine is from the start of the novel.

 

[Sonny86]

If LP had that will, Dylan would have sucked Sofia's breast in this update.

Dylan will also appear in Part 2, but I guess a different story will unfold.

I'm guessing Sophia gets to playing with herself in the living room watching TV and dylan goes down there and catches her and joins in himself!!

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

i don´t know yet because dylan said he want expecience to get a girl and he said christine if you are not into Marie .
is not like the Alyssa/ellie so far pick one.

This summons up Christine's mention in part one.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-185-lust-passion.5944/post-10703793

Although Part II is supposed to follow suit before Dylan/Ellie/Christine, they should take place simultaneously, so if you play Part II, you are locked out of Dylan/Ellie/Christine and vice versa. At some point later, if Marie is active, you will probably come to a crossroad point again.

 

[ancienregimele]

When AWAM was the best piece of erotic 3D on the forum, a few years ago, it was presented in the form of a visual novel. It was directed at the widest age range of all those who enjoyed erotica. That's erotica, as opposed to straightforward porn. At the time it seemed that the multiple layered story had found a place in an over-saturated market place, or maybe even created a niche for itself. Bear in mind that back then, there was no issue with a glacial development pace. (I've written enough about all of this in previous comments, so won't rehash them).

While it progressed as a VN, with not only excellent renders but an above average style of writing, there existed the possibility that, slow burn notwithstanding, penetrative sex could be introduced in the storylines, without being seen as the climax, (pun intended), of the tale. Good erotica & porn novels achieve this, as do a number of quality films. Many of them don't finish with this event but actually get better & more immersive as a result. It's good writing & nobody with any experience thinks that it's easy.

AWAM has degenerated in a number of ways & without listing them, I think it's reasonable to say that, for whatever reason, the Dev has chosen to aim the "game", (event-based, sluggishly paced, updates have wrecked the "VN" concept), squarely at the younger market, with a by-the-numbers approach to sex, like a 13-14 year old school-boy keeping score of how far he gets. This has reached a point where it appears that all the main characters have to reach a similar level of progression before the story can move on. That is, move on to the next stage of sexual encounters. Sexual encounters which are, apparently, necessary in every long-awaited update, to placate the fans & to hell with a coherent story, as the recent nonsense proves that such a creation is no longer necessary.

There are some problematic issues with this approach. It's clear that the length of time to be taken before full-on sex occurs with the original joint-MC is one. Another is the probability that once the act is performed within a player's chosen route(s), interest is, indeed, likely to fade, or end completely, i.e. the schoolboy is no longer a virgin.

IMO, the real disappointment is not only the accelerating decline of what used to be great but the fact that there's now no chance of coming back from this, as it's too far gone. On the other hand, "Hey, it's just a porn game," "when's the next update?," etc., etc.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sophia tries to convenience Ellie to hook Christine up with Dylan

I believe only if Ellie spikes Dylan's burger with the Viagra

 

[tofhdns]

I'm guessing Sophia gets to playing with herself in the living room watching TV and dylan goes down there and catches her and joins in himself!!

There's been all sorts of talk for six years, but nothing has happened.

 

[nikypuma]

Is there a android port version

 

[1879]

When AWAM was the best piece of erotic 3D on the forum, a few years ago, it was presented in the form of a visual novel. It was directed at the widest age range of all those who enjoyed erotica. That's erotica, as opposed to straightforward porn. At the time it seemed that the multiple layered story had found a place in an over-saturated market place, or maybe even created a niche for itself. Bear in mind that back then, there was no issue with a glacial development pace. (I've written enough about all of this in previous comments, so won't rehash them).

While it progressed as a VN, with not only excellent renders but an above average style of writing, there existed the possibility that, slow burn notwithstanding, penetrative sex could be introduced in the storylines, without being seen as the climax, (pun intended), of the tale. Good erotica & porn novels achieve this, as do a number of quality films. Many of them don't finish with this event but actually get better & more immersive as a result. It's good writing & nobody with any experience thinks that it's easy.

AWAM has degenerated in a number of ways & without listing them, I think it's reasonable to say that, for whatever reason, the Dev has chosen to aim the "game", (event-based, sluggishly paced, updates have wrecked the "VN" concept), squarely at the younger market, with a by-the-numbers approach to sex, like a 13-14 year old school-boy keeping score of how far he gets. This has reached a point where it appears that all the main characters have to reach a similar level of progression before the story can move on. That is, move on to the next stage of sexual encounters. Sexual encounters which are, apparently, necessary in every long-awaited update, to placate the fans & to hell with a coherent story, as the recent nonsense proves that such a creation is no longer necessary.

There are some problematic issues with this approach. It's clear that the length of time to be taken before full-on sex occurs with the original joint-MC is one. Another is the probability that once the act is performed within a player's chosen route(s), interest is, indeed, likely to fade, or end completely, i.e. the schoolboy is no longer a virgin.

IMO, the real disappointment is not only the accelerating decline of what used to be great but the fact that there's now no chance of coming back from this, as it's too far gone. On the other hand, "Hey, it's just a porn game," "when's the next update?," etc., etc.

yes once upon a time......

There are probably a thousand people who know everything better here. It's like in a football stadium, there are 50,000 referees and experts and they know everything better.

In the end it is L&P who had a very good idea for a project a few years ago and decided to start it. We all went with him and see for ourselves what that means. Let's face it, each of us would be in our head and our situation, would we do everything right and could we make it right for everyone and make everyone happy? It's damn difficult. I think he has a stubborn head and wanted too much, including money.

I want to be the last one to make him king or think everything's fine and I haven't given him any money yet. The game is just the way it is now, without fine lines, but with very good moments.

I would finish the game in two or three years, look back at what went wrong and start a new project with the whole new experience.

The man has a lot of potential.

 

[oshikuru]

Remembering back the story. Didn't the player have an option to send Dylan to some military camp or school? How is he home if we sent him away? Then again I could be thinking of some other VN.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Remembering back the story. Didn't the player have an option to send Dylan to some military camp or school? How is he home if we sent him away? Then again I could be thinking of some other VN.

If you don't agree to Aiden's tasks, then Dylan is sent to boarding school at the edge of the city. But is home on weekends. Which for me is unfortunate, because on the Ellie route she wants to sunbathe naked in the backyard. But she can't with Dylan around for whatever reason.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

If you don't agree to Aiden's tasks, then Dylan is sent to boarding school at the edge of the city. But is home on weekends. Which for me is unfortunate, because on the Ellie route she wants to sunbathe naked in the backyard. But she can't with Dylan around for whatever reason.

Well, if you think that's busting your bubble, wait for the Dylan/Ellie/Christine event, which I'm sure Dylan is going to advance with either Ellie, Christine, or both.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Well, if you think that's busting your bubble, wait for the Dylan/Ellie/Christine event, which I'm sure Dylan is going to advance with either Ellie, Christine, or both.

Dylan returning for the weekend is fine, it just means I'm waiting until he leaves again. And since that's PD16, I'm pretty much waiting until then anyway.

Besides, I can always fan art it. I've got a list of most, if not all of the assets used for Sophia, Ellie and Patricia. Slowly working on the others

 

[GayLord Jesus]

Edit : I re-installed this v0.185 and now that bug is gone. Same Saves though. Hmm..!

{ Is that particular bug (Sam and Sophia cello event after previous game night's pub & bathtub event) in v0.185 fixed yet? }



Bug skips this particular event completely jumping to Sophia and Dylan beauty parlor scene -Dylan stealing money event,



Without triggering Sophia & Sam sexy cello event (sam's dad interrupting first & then sam's sister Julia interrupting later).

 

[Key.key06]

people, it just seems so to me or many people notice that sophia is much more comfortable and interested in doing various stupidity and sexual pranks with this siliznik to sems, but it’s not always comfortable with dilans even if his points are higher than those of sems .. sometimes it’s not very convenient to do with dilans sexy pranks and silliness? Is this just what I noticed or do many people think so

 

[Brazzoth]

Looking at the schedule, the update will be suspended for a while after Christine's party.

That's when the LP will start working on the steam and the development period will start for 3 months after that.

But I don't know what LP is going to post on Steam.

No sex and that's not a romance simulation game and I don't know what the content is there to sell this game to Steam.

I've seen games sold to Steam and stopped developing a few times, so somehow I have a little anxiety that LP is going to sell this game to Steam and run away.

It's a really stupid news to know that it's going on steam, not much money will be made threw it since it's a one time payment, so it means that the game on steam 'dol' will be a complete game?

is it another excuse of him to delay the development or is it the only way to dedicate more time?
like I said after each update, the development is stopped for about 10 days, what is he doing during this time, vacation??
on average the render time is only about 30 hours per month (scene creation might be equal or around 50) and even though it's not a full time job, haven't he reached the goal of quitting university already?? so he should have full time on the game for a long time already.
dude goes on anxiety crisis after each update or those anxiety are just another bullshit lol

 

[Brazzoth]

Everyone is ignoring the pandemic effect. Many people had lots of hours at home, and time for AVNs available. The same happened with streamers and esports, their audience fell down as the pandemic finished and people are spending more hours in their real lifes. BADIK, Milfy City or AWAM have inflated numbers because they took advantage of those years, but they do not reflect the real state of AVNs in 2023. I guess all of them have patreons that are paying 5$/month, ddon't follow the game and they are not aware at all of the chargings.

Also you have the age problem. For me, as I found the game 1 year ago, I still have very very present the days when Dylan and Sam where youngsters who didn't knew how to swim and who though putting their hand on Sophia's hip while playing basketball was the end game for them. For me they are something around 13 and the slow developed kids, the geeks, not the chads of their promotion. Suddenly, in 3/4 days, they are about to have sexual experiences with the mother, and the girls around them are giving them relationships or sexual openings. For me its mind blowing because it makes absolutely no sense.

The game needs somekind of "5 years later..." to make any sense at all. Whitout it, all the Dylan and Sam are absolute SHIT lines. It's on the edge of legal consecuences. If you see Dylan or Sam as 17yo, if they are cool, have some swagger and nice bodies, you can understand certain degree of sexual attraction. Speak to any school teacher in real life, that attraction is real. But if you think of them as geeky 13s (as they were portrayed initially), this is creepy as fuck and if I was the neighbour who finds this out, I was calling social services and the police. This is not exciting incest, this is child abuse. The game faces this problem, if you watch the game from start to finish, its child abuse, if you only have last episodes in mind, then its unrealistic but posible with lots of perspective stretch and shity writting aceptance.

So the problem is that the author has to please 3 audience now. The steam puritans, the people who are tired of waiting for 6 years and want the sex scenes NOW, and the people like me that want a good novel and are not interested in exchanging shity writing for cheap short 3dcg porn clips. It's almost imposible. So as the game tries to stretch itself to cater all audiences, it's downfalling into shit.

The last flashback killed me, I must admit that my preference for this novel had fallen HEAVILY. It was top tier for me, but now it's low tier. For me this was the king of FMC NOVEL, now I know its going to be a soft porn clip once every 3 months. Nah, not worth. I think this is going in my mind to the same drawer as Milfy City, check randomly once a year or so if its already finished.

I agree on the first part, for the second one, you forgot that this is FICTIONNAL, yes it is weird and immoral but don't put a personnal matter on fantasy, like Sophia said: one is reality, the other fantasy

 

[palmtrees89]

Is that particular bug (Sam and Sophia cello event after previous game night's pub & bathtub event) in v0.185 fixed yet?

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Bug skips this particular event completely jumping to Sophia and Dylan beauty parlor scene -Dylan stealing money event,

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Without triggering Sophia & Sam sexy cello event (sam's dad interrupting first & then sam's sister Julia interrupting later).

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You probably just don't meet the requirements in your save to get this scene, is all.