VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[tofhdns]

I haven't said you were wrong, you don't need to get on your high horse, we're all adults here, we understand that situation.
You're just putting a personal matter on a game, there's game where murder is present (and even worse), does it make it moral? you can't put exception on morality, that's the only thing I was telling you. if you want to call the cops on Sophia go ahead
this game is not realistic at all, but is more realistic than the others in some ways
if you have experience with dating un derage that's probably why you're so focused on this, personnaly I don't

You can see rape, murder, drugs, etc. in many movies.

Just because the actors did those things in the movie doesn't mean they get kicked out. Since it's a movie.

However, things change when selling such movies.

Screening ratings are limited and sometimes subject to legal punishment.

The Luxu_Esp is talking about this.

he don't mean to punish Sofia legally.

The Luxu_Esp is also saying that the game should be realsm to some extent because it is based on reality, and that a realism has been broken in many ways.

You're just being sarcastic.

 

[TomUK]

It also depends on how you present the MC (in her inner dialogs).

For example, Her Desire, the mother is very light, sensual and sexual, FOMO & YOLO, so when you take lewd paths, it is congruent, feels natural, and you enjoy the trip and put her in every posible sex scenario. She is not corrupted, she is just exploring and having fun, so that novel is about raising her buying temperature, her mood, opening more and more sex situations, and you want lots of them.

Here Sophia was presented as a conservative prude housewife, so extramarital sex should be hard, and extramarital sex + extreme ilegal taboo, should be extremely hard. It's not about sex, it's about her corruption.

I dont think its "too much sex or not enough" and we are never satisfied. For me is more about congruence and good character development. I can play full sexual quick scenes, or I can play full prude slow burn. What I hate is when I'm presented one idea, I invest time, and then the author betrays it.

I think you missed the difference between the two, in Her Desire she is around people who are bit a little bit less reserved and people she has known for a long time.

In AWAM Sophia is living in a new city, where the temperature is a lot warmer than she is used to and people wear more revealing clothing than she is used to, she doesn't know too many people, just her neighbours and her sister, everyone she meets is more open in their sexuality than she is used to, she is slowly being 'corrupted' into this way of life. It for realistic reasons takes time, you can't just go from 'prudish' to 'hedonistic' in a matter of weeks.

 

[TomUK]

Honestly, this guy calls himself an adult but he probably lives in a puritan country or wahtever, sadly the world is actually more fucked up than it is and if he had talked a bit more with peoples, he'll be shocked by their experiences, call them liar or whatever but the reality is that a lot of stuff happen in all matters not only about the sexual part and most people are unaware off it actually because they're too busy with themselves which is understandable

Not even sure what your point is when everyone on this site is perverted in some way or they wouldn't be here.

 

[tofhdns]

It also depends on how you present the MC (in her inner dialogs).

For example, Her Desire, the mother is very light, sensual and sexual, FOMO & YOLO, so when you take lewd paths, it is congruent, feels natural, and you enjoy the trip and put her in every posible sex scenario. She is not corrupted, she is just exploring and having fun, so that novel is about raising her buying temperature, her mood, opening more and more sex situations, and you want lots of them.

Here Sophia was presented as a conservative prude housewife, so extramarital sex should be hard, and extramarital sex + extreme ilegal taboo, should be extremely hard. It's not about sex, it's about her corruption.

I dont think its "too much sex or not enough" and we are never satisfied. For me is more about congruence and good character development. I can play full sexual quick scenes, or I can play full prude slow burn. What I hate is when I'm presented one idea, I invest time, and then the author betrays it.

Definitely betrayed.

And the betrayal felt the same way even supporters.

The developer did not keep what he said and the sponsors were disappointed.

So the developer had to find a way. and destroy Sofia's past and turn her from a conservative to a whore.

This inconsistent behavior can also be seen in Dylan and Ellie.

 

[Brazzoth]

You can see rape, murder, drugs, etc. in many movies.

Just because the actors did those things in the movie doesn't mean they get kicked out. Since it's a movie.

However, things change when selling such movies.

Screening ratings are limited and sometimes subject to legal punishment.

The Luxu_Esp is talking about this.

he don't mean to punish Sofia legally.

The Luxu_Esp is also saying that the game should be realsm to some extent because it is based on reality, and that a realism has been broken in many ways.

You're just being sarcastic.

Yes I do because he's been arrogant, I'm all aware of the restriction in this type of content that are getting stricter the more the time pass, yes he is right on the fact that she's is careless about it, but that's what we've been all been talking about, L&P has changed the behavior of the protagonist many times because, Patreons rules (I'm talking about the vote that are manly focused on Sam, Ellie, Dylan, Ava's wards and Aiden).

And for a fact, the only sexual scene happening in her backyard is in the hot tube which is at night and not really visible for outsiders and even on that, sadly not everybody would have called the popo for some kissings lol

I would have preferably enjoyed a Sofia becoming a hotwife with younger man in their 20's (college guy, sauna/nightclub that disappeared) than her becoming a sex charity educator for virgin teens
But hey, Sofia apparently lives before 2010 where internet is not full of social media and stuff and where phones are not that great...

 

[roshan07]

can anyone who plays amnesia v0.93a give me the link??

 

[tofhdns]

I think you missed the difference between the two, in Her Desire she is around people who are bit a little bit less reserved and people she has known for a long time.

In AWAM Sophia is living in a new city, where the temperature is a lot warmer than she is used to and people wear more revealing clothing than she is used to, she doesn't know too many people, just her neighbours and her sister, everyone she meets is more open in their sexuality than she is used to, she is slowly being 'corrupted' into this way of life. It for realistic reasons takes time, you can't just go from 'prudish' to 'hedonistic' in a matter of weeks.

This is a slightly different word.

Sofia is not affected by the circumstances around her.
To be precise, it is extremely limited.

Sophia is distinguished when she is in front of Sam or Dylan and when she is with Ava's children or Alicia.

This is why people are told that the story of this game is all disconnected and flows mainly on events.

 

[Brazzoth]

Im from Europe, Spain. Im guessing you are from the US. If you think Spain is a prude country, you better get your female friends drunk and then ask them about their years or holidays here, we loved to receive your americans, germans or british girlfriends, it's dating and clubbing on easy mode, sex in less than 1 hour

But even in my country, where we have huge nude beaches, 24hours clubbing, and summer is hot as fuck, we still have laws.

Filming someone inside of their private property (the backyard is private property even if it doesn't have a ceiling) breaks many laws, but filming them having sex is even worse.That multilaw breaking in Spain is always sued with 7 years of prision.

But it gets worse, that was just for having them for private usage in your phone, but if you upload those or share those, it goes up to 10, and if the place where you share them has any kind of monetization (even if the uploader doesnt make any money as long as someone somehow does it) its 14 years of jail.

But it's even worse. If you go and blackmail a woman into sex, thats legally rape under coercion. In the previous scenarios you can swap the years of jail for a money fee, but once you get to this point, jail is innevitable and its going to be 15years (it doesnt up much because we have total years limit in our system).

So from here we have two ideas. First of all, why do you need a blackmail to have sex? Man, what a looser! You have ingrained incel mentallity. Bro, hit the gym, make some money and quit that shit. You need to quit porn, your brain is fucked up heavily.

Second. Of course I dont want to see all this legal thing in a novel, and of course I understand Sam or Dylan wouldn't know something like that. But man, Sophia and Liam should. WTF! Why is it so hard to understand? Maybe I'm breaking your dream of sleeping with your mom? FFS! This is so weird! OMG! You need profesional help, urgently.

HAHAHAHA Okay it has gone too far. We definitly don't understand each other

I haven't talked about the blackmail part, which if you can find my previous messages, I agree with you the blackmail is illogical and too naive BUT is optionnal, you take this path only to see her corruption (even though Sofia accept the blackmail just to be corrupted and not being blackmailed)

Second, there's was no sex scene outside of Liam in Sofia's backyard, so that's actually why I was pointing out the fact why would it go that way for some teasing?

Who filmed who? I don't get it... When did I agreed on blackmail, are you sober?

I'm not american but european just like you. You're on this forum playing some porn game to have a good wank, why do you have to justify your sex life?
Even if what you said is true (I have even seen ugly bastard make out with some hot blondie, but yeah with alcohol and drugs a lot of stuff happen I guess, everybody put it's boundaries), it doesn't feel like it's your own experience.

Edit: I think you wanted to answer to TomUK and not me

 

[TomUK]

This is a slightly different word.

Sofia is not affected by the circumstances around her.
To be precise, it is extremely limited.

Sophia is distinguished when she is in front of Sam or Dylan and when she is with Ava's children or Alicia.

This is why people are told that the story of this game is all disconnected and flows mainly on events.

I go to nude beaches and I don't have a problem with other people seeing me naked, but it isn't the same thing as being comfortable being naked in front of people I know or family in fact I just don't go naked in front of them, might be different if they were naked in front of me, then I would probably do it.

 

[tofhdns]

I go to nude beaches and I don't have a problem with other people seeing me naked, but it isn't the same thing as being comfortable being naked in front of people I know or family in fact I just don't go naked in front of them, might be different if they were naked in front of me, then I would probably do it.

I also understand that clothes at work are different from clothes at home.

I am not talking about that.

Sofia is different when she sex-educates Ava's children and when she sex-educates Dylan.

Sophia behaves differently when masturbating in front of Alicia and in front of Natalie and Ellie.

As you say, if Sofia is corrupting and being affected by the progress of the story, it should be seen in the game.

But it's not.

Additionally, even if much of the previous content in the hair salon is omitted, a bathtub scene can still be created.

Dylan is also described as a child who still needs sex education even after kissing Marie and touching her breast.

To say that this is a contradiction and that this is a disconnect.

 

[SophiaMelinda]

So the next update will be Sophia Dylan Part 2 or something else? And if it's part 2 will it continue directly from where part 1 ended or the next day?
Since he has already made out and played with her boobs the only thing that separates his update and Sam's one is seeing her "Pussy".
I sure want to see as to how Dylan begs/please/twists the facts to Sophia so that she can let him take a look or maybe do something else to her "pussy".

 

[TomUK]

I also understand that clothes at work are different from clothes at home.

I am not talking about that.

Sofia is different when she sex-educates Ava's children and when she sex-educates Dylan.

Sophia behaves differently when masturbating in front of Alicia and in front of Natalie and Ellie.

As you say, if Sofia is corrupting and being affected by the progress of the story, it should be seen in the game.

But it's not.

Additionally, even if much of the previous content in the hair salon is omitted, a bathtub scene can still be created.

Dylan is also described as a child who still needs sex education even after kissing Marie and touching her breast.

To say that this is a contradiction and that this is a disconnect.

You forget that Dylan is trying to corrupt his mother, Sophia doesn't know what happened between Dylan and Marie in the launderette, she only knows what Dylan tells her, so in her brain she believes he is inexperienced with women and she sees it as her job to help him not to look like an idiot as he puts it when he meets girl.

 

[tofhdns]

You forget that Dylan is trying to corrupt his mother, Sophia doesn't know what happened between Dylan and Marie in the launderette, she only knows what Dylan tells her, so in her brain she believes he is inexperienced with women and she sees it as her job to help him not to look like an idiot as he puts it when he meets girl.

Yeah. I knew you'd say this.

Where does Sofia get the corruption points?

Sofia gets corruption points in every situation, but the story is unaffected. This is a contradiction.

And I'm not saying that Sofia should know Dylan's true self, but that Dylan is still being "described" like a child who needs sex education. In the game.

 

[Abc3192]

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[Key.key06]

Because Dylan is her son, incest is wrong, so she's uncomfortable.
After that incident she was worried about her relationship with Dylan.
part 2 Sophia may accept incest relationship with Dylan.

yes, but here it’s strange because if you look at the scenes of parts 1 and 2 of the game, then you can understand that Sam is also for her pochti, that he’s like a son .. he’s also vrys in the rows from her revenge with Ellie and the Dilans, Sam Zhlyr with a pile of mother but right almost always take revenge on sophia and elli and the dylans of the mail as their members of the family. you can say that he is also her almost the same son as dylan. rose no? that’s why it’s interesting why she’s comfortable with him then, but not with the Dilans. although Dylan does not use dirty tricks from Sam, that she is always shovels for her breasts or that they make her poke her bare breasts.
if slug sam really fucks her first, then i'll really be sophia's rose.

 

[AdultFunGamer]

sophia get fisted at the endharharhar

 

[SuperiorManUltra]

Sophia's husband Liam Parker probably has the smallest package in this VN, as during spying on neighbors- Neil and Amber, Sophia is shocked by the size of Neil's member thinking even this skinny little dude is better endowed (in comparison to Liam) than her husband.
Maybe even those sex-ed students are better than Sophia's husband Liam Parker.

How are these game days made? I mean how many days each update covers?

Sophia's sister Patricia offered "on a Sunday" horse breading farm visit event - several updates ago - (also in the first part Patricia's husband invites Sophia for a picnic or road trip or something but still no progress there). When shall that "Sunday" happen probably several updates later.

Then Swinging / Swapping wives offer was put on the table. No timeline set.

What happens if Sophia was arrested during shower at school? Does that dirty principal blackmail her? Nothing yet with Janitor, what happens for INTERRACIAL points?

 

[Deleted member 5986070]

I feel like the scene with Mr. Harris/Johnson should happen on any cheating route, doesn't make sense that it only happens if we pursue Dylan

 

[Talcum Powder]

I feel like the scene with Mr. Harris/Johnson should happen on any cheating route, doesn't make sense that it only happens if we pursue Dylan

Totally agree, and what you’re actually honing in on is the entire problem with AWAM. You can’t call it a game because there are no actual game elements (other than a couple of ham-fisted attempts at mini games - I’ll not waste any more time on those, at least not now). You can’t call it a story because there are so many different and mutually exclusive stories going on.

The last update illustrates the same sort of problem that’s endemic to L&P’s design:no matter what path you’re on, Sophia is taking a bath that evening. We know this because there’s no variable that makes her date with Liam possible.

If you’re not on the Dylan path but are on the swinging path then there’s absolutely no reason why Sophia would be wearing a bikini under her robe, and no convincing reason why Liam would feel awkward or embarrassed by Sophia’s flirting. He should be excited by it.

If you’re on the good wife path she would most likely come to the door in sweatpants or some other casual house attire, and would change for the bath after meeting the boss.

if you are on the Dylan path, she’s probably also not going to wear a bikini under her robe to meet the boss, cuz that’s really weird and would raise questions if not suspicions. She’s much more likely to be wearing either casual attire or totally naked under there. And only in this scenario does Liam’s awkwardness and jealousy make any sense.

in no way does wearing the bikini under her robe make any sense at all.

 

[DantexxDNC]

Wait is the update for part 1 or part 2?