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Talcum Powder

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I feel like the scene with Mr. Harris/Johnson should happen on any cheating route, doesn't make sense that it only happens if we pursue Dylan
Totally agree, and what you’re actually honing in on is the entire problem with AWAM. You can’t call it a game because there are no actual game elements (other than a couple of ham-fisted attempts at mini games - I’ll not waste any more time on those, at least not now). You can’t call it a story because there are so many different and mutually exclusive stories going on.

The last update illustrates the same sort of problem that’s endemic to L&P’s design:no matter what path you’re on, Sophia is taking a bath that evening. We know this because there’s no variable that makes her date with Liam possible.

If you’re not on the Dylan path but are on the swinging path then there’s absolutely no reason why Sophia would be wearing a bikini under her robe, and no convincing reason why Liam would feel awkward or embarrassed by Sophia’s flirting. He should be excited by it.

If you’re on the good wife path she would most likely come to the door in sweatpants or some other casual house attire, and would change for the bath after meeting the boss.

if you are on the Dylan path, she’s probably also not going to wear a bikini under her robe to meet the boss, cuz that’s really weird and would raise questions if not suspicions. She’s much more likely to be wearing either casual attire or totally naked under there. And only in this scenario does Liam’s awkwardness and jealousy make any sense.

in no way does wearing the bikini under her robe make any sense at all.
 

SomeOldFart

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Nov 18, 2017
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So is there a way for the Mom to not get pissed at junior taking his shorts off in the tub and telling him to get out before she stashes him behind the shower curtain? :unsure:
 
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Dr.SigmundFap

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Apr 23, 2017
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OH! So part 1 still continues? I completely missed that. I thought part 2 came out and that was it for part 1!
It's still the same event but a continuation of Part 1. This event is covered in two parts, and part 1 was released back on April 29th. Part 2 will probably be released sometime around July or August. Then Dylan/Ellie/Christine's event will be up after Part 2 is released.
 

hmc15

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Apr 4, 2019
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Stockholm syndrome.

The developer of this game puts off sex as much as possible.

Those who supported the game also admit that the game is now getting boring, making a lot of errors, and that the lines have become childish.

Nevertheless, they praise sex in other games and say they want it, but they still say it's unnecessary and cheap in front of this game for LP.

There comes a moment when everyone, everything, and every situation becomes ashes after the flame.

The other game is boring because it shows everything and there's nothing more to show, but this game is boring without showing anything.

And yet they say everything is fine.

They became hostages of Stockholm.
Its hard for me to understand how others havent seen the massive dropoff in realism. The dialogue went from somewhat realistic and believable to cheap trailer park porno nonsense overnight it seems.

Oh well. Nothing lasts forever
 

Alley_Cat

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Jul 20, 2019
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Its hard for me to understand how others havent seen the massive dropoff in realism. The dialogue went from somewhat realistic and believable to cheap trailer park porno nonsense overnight it seems.

Oh well. Nothing lasts forever
Many of us have. I think for me the beginning of the end was PD11 and Emma relegated to the Dylan route. All of a sudden she went from having an interest in Sophia to thinking Dylan is a "cutie". Where the beginning of the end will be for others will obviously be different.

But then "overnight" is quite apt in that everything this PD appears to be fan service. I'm just hoping it gets back on track for the Ellie route on PD14.
 
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First of all, wrtitting the story and selling it can face real legal consequences. This "industry" is not an isolated island. Look at how many "real porn" html novels are spamming this days, some using Youtubers as avatars. It's a matter of time til one of those porn companies or individuals sue the creators. It's a clock ticking that is about to happen as the "real porn novel" is starting to spam.

Second, if you portray a real world scenario, not scifi spaceships, medieval orcs, magical creatures, etc... When we look at that world, we aply a minimum of real world logic.

Why are all this FMC novels start with convenient isolation? Why? Because its needed. Every AVN start with "a couple moved to a new city and they dont know anyone there" (except for a convenient token character to corrupt the MC). You dont blackmail a real bimbo with a phone picture in real life unless you are an absolute idiot. Every bimbo you know is a phone call away to bring to your life a bouncer and 5 of this friends to "paint you the face". Every bimbo you know is a phone call away to talk with really dangerous people and ask them for a favor, and trust me, those guys are willing to charge for the favor so they will gladly overcommit. Every person you know has a familiar who works in the police, or lawyer, or politician, or military, or ar part of a boxing gym, or its involved in drugs, etc... And every woman keep a fair share of those in their phone's agenda. So isolation is required for her to be helpless, otherwise none of her options makes any sense.

The authors know that its stupid most of the situations but at least they try to build an excuse. And that is because they somehow have to obey to real world rules because its a real world based scenario.

If a 35yo woman has sex in her visible backyard with a 13yo, and someone spots that, police enforcement are going to ring that door soon. I'm not a 16yo, as an adult I know this is part of the situation and I cannot ignore it. And also, the MC is an adult, she shouldn't ignore it. Between 18 to 30 you will see a lot of legal shit in your life (unless you dont leave your computer at home), and once you experience it, legal consequences are not something you can ignore anymore. But, once again, I'm guessing this industry is a bunch of 16yo incel dudes faping like if there is no tomorrow.
Child marriage still exists in some parts of the world today
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Aug 23, 2020
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Many of us have. I think for me the beginning of the end was PD11 and Emma relegated to the Dylan route. All of a sudden she went from having an interest in Sophia to thinking Dylan is a "cutie". Where the beginning of the end will be for others will obviously be different.

But then "overnight" is quite apt in that everything this PD appears to be fan service. I'm just hoping it gets back on track for the Ellie route on PD14.
I'd have to sit back and think about when the beginning of the end happened. But I'd say that while the writing decline in PD12, it has fallen off a cliff in PD13. In PD12 the poor dialog was worth discussing because it was still good enough to be worthy of discussion. But now it's an absolute trainwreck and not even worth discussing.
 

Alley_Cat

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I'd have to sit back and think about when the beginning of the end happened. But I'd say that while the writing decline in PD12, it has fallen off a cliff in PD13. In PD12 the poor dialog was worth discussing because it was still good enough to be worthy of discussion. But now it's an absolute trainwreck and not even worth discussing.
I didn't find the writing in PD12 bad, but then I do skip about 75% of the available content.
 

ancienregimele

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yes once upon a time...... :LOL:

There are probably a thousand people who know everything better here. It's like in a football stadium, there are 50,000 referees and experts and they know everything better.

In the end it is L&P who had a very good idea for a project a few years ago and decided to start it. We all went with him and see for ourselves what that means. Let's face it, each of us would be in our head and our situation, would we do everything right and could we make it right for everyone and make everyone happy? It's damn difficult. I think he has a stubborn head and wanted too much, including money.

I want to be the last one to make him king or think everything's fine and I haven't given him any money yet. The game is just the way it is now, without fine lines, but with very good moments.

I would finish the game in two or three years, look back at what went wrong and start a new project with the whole new experience.

The man has a lot of potential.
He has potential, agreed. AWAM's true potential has been squandered, however, because of the Dev's choices. Regrettably, this isn't once upon a time (I sometimes wish it was) but real time. I never claim to know everything better than the author but with some things concerning erotica, perhaps he could stand to take note of suggestions, now & again, before he runs the project into the ground. Maybe he should read some classic porn/erotica & adapt the scenarios for his game. When it comes to football, I've been to enough matches, to have witnessed several occasions when the crowd got it right. Nobody sane expects perfection & L&P is given a lot of leeway by most fans but what's happening now resembles a hollow echo of what this project was & could still have been, with different decisions.

AWAM is a case of over-reach & as we know there'll only be one kind of change to the development, i.e. more slowing down, I would suggest that the game needs wrapping up ASAP. After 6 years, why not just let Dylan shag his mother, give the kids something to wank to & embark on the next game, 'What Dylan Did Next,' 'A Son & Brother,' or whatever? That way he could retain his virgin schoolboy audience & maintain a decent income stream. He might even become motivated again, as the possibilities are endless.

Of course, folks like me wouldn't be playing but it's been obvious for a while that there's no story left for many long-term fans, if they're not into m/s incest. I only stay with it out of curiousity & for the renders, which are still great. He could at least be in a position to produce above average teen porn, as opposed to the current slowest average teen porn still not abandoned.
 

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kimber700

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L&P, we need to see AWAM ends before we all gone. Pls hurry.
 

shataqa

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May 2, 2023
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Because Dylan is her son, incest is wrong, so she's uncomfortable.
After that incident she was worried about her relationship with Dylan.
part 2 Sophia may accept incest relationship with Dylan.
i dont understand many people : incest is wrong?! to fuck with 3 strangers just for fun cheating on the ones you love is good?!
especially if the game is about perversions ...
:unsure:
 

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He has potential, agreed. AWAM's true potential has been squandered, however, because of the Dev's choices. Regrettably, this isn't once upon a time (I sometimes wish it was) but real time. I never claim to know everything better than the author but with some things concerning erotica, perhaps he could stand to take note of suggestions, now & again, before he runs the project into the ground. Maybe he should read some classic porn/erotica & adapt the scenarios for his game. When it comes to football, I've been to enough matches, to have witnessed several occasions when the crowd got it right. Nobody sane expects perfection & L&P is given a lot of leeway by most fans but what's happening now resembles a hollow echo of what this project was & could still have been, with different decisions.

AWAM is a case of over-reach & as we know there'll only be one kind of change to the development, i.e. more slowing down, I would suggest that the game needs wrapping up ASAP. After 6 years, why not just let Dylan shag his mother, give the kids something to wank to & embark on the next game, 'What Dylan Did Next,' 'A Son & Brother,' or whatever? That way he could retain his virgin schoolboy audience & maintain a decent income stream. He might even become motivated again, as the possibilities are endless.

Of course, folks like me wouldn't be playing but it's been obvious for a while that there's no story left for many long-term fans, if they're not into m/s incest. I only stay with it out of curiousity & for the renders, which are still great. He could at least be in a position to produce above average teen porn, as opposed to the current slowest average teen porn still not abandoned.
He has potential, agreed. AWAM's true potential has been squandered, however, because of the Dev's choices. Regrettably, this isn't once upon a time (I sometimes wish it was) but real time. I never claim to know everything better than the author but with some things concerning erotica, perhaps he could stand to take note of suggestions, now & again, before he runs the project into the ground. Maybe he should read some classic porn/erotica & adapt the scenarios for his game. When it comes to football, I've been to enough matches, to have witnessed several occasions when the crowd got it right. Nobody sane expects perfection & L&P is given a lot of leeway by most fans but what's happening now resembles a hollow echo of what this project was & could still have been, with different decisions.

AWAM is a case of over-reach & as we know there'll only be one kind of change to the development, i.e. more slowing down, I would suggest that the game needs wrapping up ASAP. After 6 years, why not just let Dylan shag his mother, give the kids something to wank to & embark on the next game, 'What Dylan Did Next,' 'A Son & Brother,' or whatever? That way he could retain his virgin schoolboy audience & maintain a decent income stream. He might even become motivated again, as the possibilities are endless.

Of course, folks like me wouldn't be playing but it's been obvious for a while that there's no story left for many long-term fans, if they're not into m/s incest. I only stay with it out of curiousity & for the renders, which are still great. He could at least be in a position to produce above average teen porn, as opposed to the current slowest average teen porn still not abandoned.

I see it that he was either afraid that other helpers would ruin his game or that he was just too selfish.

I have no problem with incest in a game if it's just designed for that.
But with the character of Sophia I would never allow it, that ruins everything for me.

But with this update, he's sadly made his choice to be Dylan fans. I'm sure they're the ones who pay the most.

So for me: New game, new luck.
 

JohnX

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Mar 6, 2019
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Last update with Dylan & Sofia in the bathtub was very hot - teasing in its perfection.

After that scene i would like to give an idea to the developers for a possible next event between mother and son:

Sofia & Dylan go for a swim in a bit deserted beach and Dylan convinces her to go topless wearing only a thong(since already saw her topless :D).

There will be some touching,sun cream,games on water etc and maybe Sofia will let Dylan jerkoff for the second time while she observes him doing that(first time was in the beach cabin).

Anyway,congrats with the game for Lust and passion and we are looking forward for more.
 
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