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This was a strong update. It's a pity that the continuation of this route will have to wait at least half a year.
- Oct 4, 2018
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He's going to make a lot of money over it for a few more years, and this is the path in his best interests. He's no longer trusted by the majority of the audience, but they'll stick around til the end. It's a good, compelling game, but not 10 years good which is what begins to look like the total development time.
The game is now the brand. Had he moved faster and finished it in 2-4 years, he could have made himself the brand like Mr Dots, Lewdlab, Royalcandy and a couple others. They completed good games in a reasonable timeframe, put out good 0.1 of the next game, and people flocked in.
Maybe you forgot or didn't know, but all of Aiden's assignments are based on a plot twist where Dylan asked Aiden to make his mother dress sexier. What he confesses to her when she takes him to boarding school. This twist has been removed, but the idea of the script was originally just that. It's not in the script for Dylan to meet Aiden's guys in town.
- Jan 25, 2021
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In reality, based on in-game days, this game is still at the tail end of the 20th and this game is up to the 37th.
Because it takes two years to see one day.
It will take approximately 34 years from now to see the end.
I feel like i say this every single release, i love the slow burn, i despise the release schedule. You cannot have one fucking scene done every four months (at the same pace it was before when the dev claimed it would be faster).
Well once it's finished, it can be polished up and he can probably sell it on Steam as a full game.
- Jul 20, 2019
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Playing the boarding school route, when Sophia mentions the lawyer uncle, Carl's reaction is pretty much just "Pfft, I know him, don't worry about it"
Carl probably has a few lawyers on retainer of Richard Murphy's calibre.
But it should be in the script at some point, if Aiden's threat is to have any meaning. That it's not is essentially my point.
- Apr 3, 2017
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I am sure the developer knows about the slow development, the questions are about his intentions, does he take steps to increase the development speed (hire some people, get better hardware to increase render speed etc.) or if he simply decides to continue like this and let AWAM be his job for the next decade (or 2 decades)
Seeing how ICSTOR still has 6K patrons, I have confidence that many if not most will continue to keep paying and "supporting" him.
I think the better route is make a small team, invest in some infra and work to make L&P a brand itself rather than just AWAM.
Seeing how Phillygames had been doing 50-80 renders (and some animations as well) every week, while having the similar number of patrons, its not wrong for paying patrons to expect more - a lot more.
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I like the update. First time someone’s sperm touched Sophia’s body other than Liam. But i dont like the update cycle.. one scene for every six months? What if a update contains the scene of Fabric Inspection? Should we wait 6 months for such scene? Not worth the wait..
Atleast Lust for Patreon is making progress.. very slow.. but still going unlike some Stopped Art..
Atleast Lust for Patreon is making progress.. very slow.. but still going unlike some Stopped Art..
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That is if Steam is still a thing in 50 years.
- Apr 7, 2018
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The "warning" isn't required anymore to get the 2 final Dylan scenes.
I'm going to disagree with you on that.
I am enjoying almost all the routes and, for those who are not here for Sophia incest with Dylan, the Dylan/Marie Dylan/Ellie and/or Dylan/Christine encounters are of interest.
The issue for the last few years has come down to slow development time.
If L&P gave us two PD's/year, we would still not reach PD 30 complete before the RL year 2030, but everyone could see content they were looking forward to 'coming soon'.
The slow development time (which does not even include the time L&P will take working on a Steam release or other activities that further slow the development of AWAM) means we are not looking at PD 30 complete until some year > 2050.
Cheers!
- Apr 7, 2018
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Despite the harsh tone, I agree with him. He didn't say "make your own game, instead of complaining", he said "make your own game and see how much time it really takes".
That's exactly what I said before the update. It's totally normal to think it shouldn't take much time. Like you said, Renpy is very accessible. But in reality, everything always takes a lot of time when you crawl through the code. And it seems you can only really feel it by experiencing it.
For the sake of science, I measured the time I spent on this update. It took me around 7 hours, and some time more after the release. And during this time, I didn't even have time to carefully read the dialogs... It takes time.
But maybe I'm the slowest guy in the world, and maybe those "couple hours" guys should apply to L&P
Agree, slow burn is rather beneficial in my opinion. But those short updates should come at least every 2month.
AWAM v 0.190:
I thought it was a very good update:
Pro's:
Renders were well done, especially the jacuzzi scene with the water effects.
The script was consistent with a Sophia who was trying to justify intimate time with Dylan while doubting herself - along with the 'alcohol made it ok.'
There was unexpected adult honesty where Sophia confided in Dylan that she and Liam were rarely intimate and that he is not making the effort to remind her that she is important to him - This was one of the breakthroughs in intimacy between Sophia and Dylan.
This was the first time that Sophia took the initiative in physical intimacy - she gave Dylan a hj. (Yes - part of her reasoning was to prevent him from giving her an orgasm so that she could hide how sexual this had become for her, but Sophia was an active participant in her first sexual act not involving Liam).
The fact that Sophia told Dylan that he is bigger than his father will, hopefully, be used by L&P in future introspection when Sophia is thinking about her 'date' with Dylan.
Cons:
AWAM is no longer an immersive story - it is now, at best, a series of high-quality vignettes taken from the life of Sophia Parker and her family.
The back-to-back Sophia/Sam then Sophia/Dylan intimacy becomes less special since Sophia's actions make it seem like neither guy is truly special, and she just enjoys the attention of different males since Liam can't be bothered.
The slow development makes some story arcs feel dated and distant - like the Sophia/Ellie story arc (which will not see a planned update for several more years RL).
Finally - a quality update like this, and one of only 3 released this year, reminds me of both the early promise that AWAM held and how unlikely I am to ever see a completed AWAM.
I thought it was a very good update:
Pro's:
Renders were well done, especially the jacuzzi scene with the water effects.
The script was consistent with a Sophia who was trying to justify intimate time with Dylan while doubting herself - along with the 'alcohol made it ok.'
There was unexpected adult honesty where Sophia confided in Dylan that she and Liam were rarely intimate and that he is not making the effort to remind her that she is important to him - This was one of the breakthroughs in intimacy between Sophia and Dylan.
This was the first time that Sophia took the initiative in physical intimacy - she gave Dylan a hj. (Yes - part of her reasoning was to prevent him from giving her an orgasm so that she could hide how sexual this had become for her, but Sophia was an active participant in her first sexual act not involving Liam).
The fact that Sophia told Dylan that he is bigger than his father will, hopefully, be used by L&P in future introspection when Sophia is thinking about her 'date' with Dylan.
Cons:
AWAM is no longer an immersive story - it is now, at best, a series of high-quality vignettes taken from the life of Sophia Parker and her family.
The back-to-back Sophia/Sam then Sophia/Dylan intimacy becomes less special since Sophia's actions make it seem like neither guy is truly special, and she just enjoys the attention of different males since Liam can't be bothered.
The slow development makes some story arcs feel dated and distant - like the Sophia/Ellie story arc (which will not see a planned update for several more years RL).
Finally - a quality update like this, and one of only 3 released this year, reminds me of both the early promise that AWAM held and how unlikely I am to ever see a completed AWAM.
Christine's Party I'm guessing or nothing if Dylan misses the party to take mommy on a date.