VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Mamonetti]

I have 86 filthy points.
the only difference, Day 14 night, instead of drinking the second glass, I click "listen to him" and after that I did "Sophia’s relaxing evening".
Watching Neil and Amber having sex gives +1 filth points. More point and sex scene

Btw, no thugs, nor the 1st job


Good Wife: 8 (I went to the part with Liam during lunch, 5 point differences came from there)
Filthy: 86
Lesbian Temptation: 22
Dylan: 42
Ellie: 25
Sam: 36
Patricia: 12 (sorry it should be 12 not 1)

I rechecked and you're right, the Neil/Amber event doesn't have any side effect, and you get 1 extra Filthy point.

On the other hand, you get 88 points if you do as you say (just don't drink the second glass), as long as you let Sam join the bikini show, and 86 for the Dylan-only version. I'll update the file after the next patch.

 

[Mamonetti]

Yeah, Sam is also a contender especially with Sophia's weakness for rock musicians, but like he himself pretty much says during the Dream sequence event, it would be adultery, since Sophia is a married woman. And I haven't seen any evidence yet (in fact everything has said the complete opposite, including from L&P himself) that Sophia would commit adultery and cheat on Liam.

Well, Sam's been playing the game of "I don't know if I should tell you this.. (but I'm telling you)", putting dirty stuff inside Sophia's mind. It also happened when he confessed he was into breasts and she showed him her areolae (it's pretty much the same).

So Sam saying "it would be adultery" is just another useless excuse as Sophia will keep asking herself whether it would really be adultery to have some sort of relationship with him, especially now that he has a car and he's a musician whose career is going to take off with their first concert incoming (this somehow makes him look more like an adult in comparison to Dylan, so to speak).

 

[Old Dog]

Well now you know Sophia is going to have to be punished for this.

Ooops.I goofed

 

[Alley_Cat]

Well, Sam's been playing the game of "I don't know if I should tell you this.. (but I'm telling you)", putting dirty stuff inside Sophia's mind. It also happened when he confessed he was into breasts and she showed him her areolae (it's pretty much the same).

So Sam saying "it would be adultery" is just another useless excuse as Sophia will keep asking herself whether it would really be adultery to have some sort of relationship with him, especially now that he has a car and he's a musician whose career is going to take off with their first concert incoming (this somehow makes him look more like an adult in comparison to Dylan, so to speak).

I should clarify that when I say there's no evidence she'd commit adultery, I thought the "yet" was implied, since this is a WIP.

Of course for at least the four main characters, there's going to some point at which she breaks and cheats on Liam, there'd be no point in the game otherwise.

And yeah, much of the fun at the moment (for me at least) is watching the two sides of Sophia war with each other. For the Ellie/Patricia route, because Sophia can't have sex with Liam on it, she's incredible horny. Ellie and Patricia offer harmless release from it that isn't adultery, but it's incest. But she's testing the boundaries, even got caught by Liam once, and she's got away with it. He even seemed fine with it.

From what I've seen of the Sam route if you take it, is that yeah, as you say, Sam fits Sophia's weakness of being a rock muso, combined with the teasing Sophia apparently does at every opportunity on the route, takes her back to her college days. Having sex with Sam wouldn't be incest, but it would be adultery.

I'm not aware of what attraction Sophia might have for Dylan. Sure, she loves him as a son, but attraction? Plus he has the double whammy of sex with him being adultery and incest. Personally I think he might be the last to have sex with Sophia just based on that, but we'll just have to wait and see. Oh, and with Dylan being the most popular character, L&P has the most by patrons possibly getting bored after the sex scene and stopping their subscriptions.

 

[Milflover1010]

I should clarify that when I say there's no evidence she'd commit adultery, I thought the "yet" was implied, since this is a WIP.

Of course for at least the four main characters, there's going to some point at which she breaks and cheats on Liam, there'd be no point in the game otherwise.

And yeah, much of the fun at the moment (for me at least) is watching the two sides of Sophia war with each other. For the Ellie/Patricia route, because Sophia can't have sex with Liam on it, she's incredible horny. Ellie and Patricia offer harmless release from it that isn't adultery, but it's incest. But she's testing the boundaries, even got caught by Liam once, and she's got away with it. He even seemed fine with it.

From what I've seen of the Sam route if you take it, is that yeah, as you say, Sam fits Sophia's weakness of being a rock muso, combined with the teasing Sophia apparently does at every opportunity on the route, takes her back to her college days. Having sex with Sam wouldn't be incest, but it would be adultery.

I'm not aware of what attraction Sophia might have for Dylan. Sure, she loves him as a son, but attraction? Plus he has the double whammy of sex with him being adultery and incest. Personally I think he might be the last to have sex with Sophia just based on that, but we'll just have to wait and see. Oh, and with Dylan being the most popular character, L&P has the most by patrons possibly getting bored after the sex scene and stopping their subscriptions.

Having sex with Sam will be adultery as like fucking friend or neighbours mom than there will also be route where Dylan fucking Sam mom as it will also be adultery and then why can't Dylan fuck his own mom as while playing the game the start has disclaimer where all character are 18 or 18+ and the game also ask user for the same so why this thing that Dylan is underage what a confusion

 

[lockerxx]

Fellow Degenerates Perverts I give you
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i hope this week L&P can finish the last rendered scenes.

 

[armion82]

Oh, and with Dylan being the most popular character, L&P has the most by patrons possibly getting bored after the sex scene and stopping their subscriptions.

That is probably one of the greatest myths in porn games.That players get bored after one sex scene for their character.
If that was the case,then Milf's Villa shouldn't get so many complains that have ended right after the first and only sex with the big sis and the mother.
Not to mention I didn't saw any prove that patrons are stopping their subscriptions for a dev after the sex.It's always the other way around.

 

[Blockout]

If you want someone to do something for you, make them agitated. Want the dev to see you're not taking any of his shit? Hit where it hurts. Simultaneously everyone start pulling out the life support. The flustered and disgruntled boy will bounce back to you and ask, what would you like me to do. That's when you put out your suggestions. Not now, where it doesn't get anywhere!

You are expecting too much.

When L&P was still active here he claimed that 3500€ wouldn't be enough to live in Germany.
And obviously many here actually believed him.

The milking began such a long time ago.

 

[Mamonetti]

I should clarify that when I say there's no evidence she'd commit adultery, I thought the "yet" was implied, since this is a WIP.

Of course for at least the four main characters, there's going to some point at which she breaks and cheats on Liam, there'd be no point in the game otherwise.

And yeah, much of the fun at the moment (for me at least) is watching the two sides of Sophia war with each other. For the Ellie/Patricia route, because Sophia can't have sex with Liam on it, she's incredible horny. Ellie and Patricia offer harmless release from it that isn't adultery, but it's incest. But she's testing the boundaries, even got caught by Liam once, and she's got away with it. He even seemed fine with it.

You're right, her lesbian side and the temptation of being with younger men are fighting each other. An Ellie/Patricia lesbian team would be really hot for a late lesbian threesome, if that happened. I think Sophia might accept something like that considering she hasn't been too strict with some things as long as they remain inside the family.

However, for me Patricia is the source of all problems and I'd personally throw her down a well, right next to Bennett. So, team Alyssa+Claire is more of my liking.

From what I've seen of the Sam route if you take it, is that yeah, as you say, Sam fits Sophia's weakness of being a rock muso, combined with the teasing Sophia apparently does at every opportunity on the route, takes her back to her college days. Having sex with Sam wouldn't be incest, but it would be adultery.

I'm not aware of what attraction Sophia might have for Dylan. Sure, she loves him as a son, but attraction? Plus he has the double whammy of sex with him being adultery and incest. Personally I think he might be the last to have sex with Sophia just based on that, but we'll just have to wait and see. Oh, and with Dylan being the most popular character, L&P has the most by patrons possibly getting bored after the sex scene and stopping their subscriptions.

That's the point, the combination of adultery and incest makes it even more exciting. Besides, just pay attention to the final part of the title of the game: A wife and mother, how far would you go? She will continue doing dirty things for Dylan for educational purposes, and he knows it.

Regarding this, I can think of some of the next things that will happen (or have already happened) in their relationship (someone introduced them some time ago):

• Day 18 / Breakfast in bed with Dylan. What's the point of not asking him to wait outside while she's getting dressed? Now he can see her just wearing her lingerie and he can even feel it as if this was something normal? He's almost groping her in this scene.
• At some point she will feel comfortable being topless in front of him while they're alone at home (he will ask, trying to make her feel more relaxed).
• Now that she's already kissed Patricia and Ellie, she will have no excuse for not kissing him the moment he asks (he will definitely ask) as a way to help him lose his shyness. He will pretend to feel ashamed of kissing a girl (looking for a girlfriend? sure..) without having kissed anyone before.
• Using the same excuse, he'll ask for permission to grope her breasts, and she will allow it.
• His massages will evolve into something far more sexual.
• Sooner or later they will catch each other masturbating while thinking about the other, maybe even saying it aloud.
• What will happen next? That's hard to tell.

So Dylan's case is a little bit different.

Regarding Dylan and Sam, I think everybody's taking for granted that Sophia will choose one or the other, or maybe both but not at the same time. What if she ended up being with the two of them in a threesome? I mean, so far we've seem them sharing sexual experiences with Sophia in some scenes, namely the teasing scene at the kitchen and the bikini show. What if they followed their own paths from now on but at a certain point both joined in one common path at the end of the story? At this point Sam is almost part of the family, so we could have here the male adultery team in parallel with the Ellie/Patricia lesbian team (in both cases everything happening in the threesomes would remain inside the family).

 

[Alley_Cat]

Having sex with Sam will be adultery as like fucking friend or neighbours mom than there will also be route where Dylan fucking Sam mom as it will also be adultery and then why can't Dylan fuck his own mom as while playing the game the start has disclaimer where all character are 18 or 18+ and the game also ask user for the same so why this thing that Dylan is underage what a confusion

What disclaimer? AWAM doesn't have one. Another reason to assert there's an underage character. Personally I don't actually have a problem with Dylan being 17. Underage characters can have sex, even if the game did have the disclaimer. You just can't portray it, and it can't be with an adult. We also don't know what the age of consent is in whatever country San Alejo is in. Could well be 16, in which case Dylan wouldn't actually be underage anyway. It's just that since 18 is the age of consent in my country, I don't play the Dylan route.

Also, my post you quoted said nothing about Dylan's age. Why bring that up?

Oh, and Mamonetti, I get that adultery and incest can be exciting for the player. I don't think anyone is disputing that. I'm just making the point that in a story based game like this one, breaking down two walls is naturally going to take longer than breaking down just one. Payoff may well be better for those that like it as well.

But now something I realised about the morning of playable day 12. Every time there's a GW event, there's also an Ellie event. And on the morning of playable day 12, there is also both, as opposed to the next update. So it appears there's definitely going to be progression of the Sophia/Ellie route in the morning update.

 

[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

How much time it will take for the coding and what is the actual story of this game

The usual. Family moves, they meet new people, suddenly the female protagonist gets into all sorts of sexy situations, everyone wants a piece of her.
Blackmail and coincidences that put her nude/lingerie in front of other men start happening.

 

[Creeping Death]

That is probably one of the greatest myths in porn games.That players get bored after one sex scene for their character.
If that was the case,then Milf's Villa shouldn't get so many complains that have ended right after the first and only sex with the big sis and the mother.
Not to mention I didn't saw any prove that patrons are stopping their subscriptions for a dev after the sex.It's always the other way around.

Well, after the first fuck it lacks of the additional arousal because of all the crazy driving teasing! Do I get bored after that? No, but is still not the same. But after that it triggers for more. More lewd action (of course with teasing before). So if the first sex scene and the follow ups are more or less vanilla blowjobs, vaginal and anal, then there is no more trigger or arousal of some upcoming more lewd stuff.

 

[Mamonetti]

Well, after the first fuck it lacks of the additional arousal because of all the crazy driving teasing! Do I get bored after that? No, but is still not the same. But after that it triggers for more. More lewd action (of course with teasing before). So if the first sex scene and the follow ups are more or less vanilla blowjobs, vaginal and anal, then there is no more trigger or arousal of some upcoming more lewd stuff.

Which means we won't get any real sex until the last week of the game for almost all paths.

 

[truerty]

Which means we won't get any real sex until the last week of the game for almost all paths.

If l&p is reading all this, i bet he's taking notes. We're shooting ourselves in the foot here!

 

[armion82]

If l&p is reading all this, i bet he's taking notes. We're shooting ourselves in the foot here!

Not really.I doubt even from the start,he have any intentions to put the sex for most characters before last 10 days.
Maybe now he just change that to last 5 days.Because outside Elly and Patricia,all others are so behind and I can't see how anyone else can menage to fuck her in next 10 days.

 

[Milflover1010]

What disclaimer? AWAM doesn't have one. Another reason to assert there's an underage character. Personally I don't actually have a problem with Dylan being 17. Underage characters can have sex, even if the game did have the disclaimer. You just can't portray it, and it can't be with an adult. We also don't know what the age of consent is in whatever country San Alejo is in. Could well be 16, in which case Dylan wouldn't actually be underage anyway. It's just that since 18 is the age of consent in my country, I don't play the Dylan route.

Also, my post you quoted said nothing about Dylan's age. Why bring that up?

Oh, and Mamonetti, I get that adultery and incest can be exciting for the player. I don't think anyone is disputing that. I'm just making the point that in a story based game like this one, breaking down two walls is naturally going to take longer than breaking down just one. Payoff may well be better for those that like it as well.

But now something I realised about the morning of playable day 12. Every time there's a GW event, there's also an Ellie event. And on the morning of playable day 12, there is also both, as opposed to the next update. So it appears there's definitely going to be progression of the Sophia/Ellie route in the morning update.

Chill dude its just my confusion can u tell me in which day Dylan age is mentioned I need to play this game again after 5months

 

[Mamonetti]

If l&p is reading all this, i bet he's taking notes. We're shooting ourselves in the foot here!

I know, but I'm afraid that's the most reasonable outcome for this game if we want it to maintain its uniqueness, no matter how much we fantasize

 

[Alley_Cat]

Which means we won't get any real sex until the last week of the game for almost all paths.

That is what a lot of us have been saying for a while now.

Oh, and what problems were you talking about when you mentioned wanting to throw Patricia down a well?

Chill dude its just my confusion can u tell me in which day Dylan age is mentioned I need to play this game again after 5months

Neither Ellie or Dylan's age is directly mentioned, only implied. Which is actually one of the arguments I use that Dylan can't be 18. If he was, then it could be mentioned, like how when Nathalie is introduced, it's stated she is 19 and in college. Which is why Ellie can't be 19 as well.

But, since Ellie is in her final months of high school, and pretty much a straight A student (mentioned when Sophia is talking to Ava Myers), it's more natural that she is 18 and Dylan is 17. And by not directly mentioning it, L&P's not directly breaking any rules about characters being at least 18 when I assume on the Dylan route, Sophia finally has sex with him

 

[Mr Killer D]

You are expecting too much.

When L&P was still active here he claimed that 3500€ wouldn't be enough to live in Germany.
And obviously many here actually believed him.

The milking began such a long time ago.

No one is forcing anyone to play the game or support the developer. If you don't like the way the game developed you can look for other games.

Why everyone in here like this,
Adult Game Development is an art. It contains teasing, groping,.. etc but the main pillar of the game is the story. How a character got corrupted... Etc...

Like Alley_Cat said.

If you're after a fap game, look elsewhere, since estimates from the guys here of the first sex scene on the Filthy route have ranged anywhere between 2 and 10 years.

 

[Mamonetti]

Oh, and what problems were you talking about when you mentioned wanting to throw Patricia down a well?

Quite simple, corrupting your own sister for your own benefit (I know something like that might have happened eventually in a different way given Sophia's frustrations, but that's a different story) is not exactly what you might expect from anyone.

Patricia found the perfect opportunity to get a partner in order not to be alone Livin' la vida loca. I mean, however boring or repetitive it was, Sophia was living her life how she wanted, but Patricia didn't care. So yes, Patricia deserves to burn in hell.