VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Lederzar]

If by "not a kiss" you mean it lacks intimacy, of that we agree. I'm well aware that in some cultures it's often used as a greeting, and in places like the Middle East, often between two men. So more a sign of affection than intimacy.

What intrigues me about the bonus storyline is that the requirements are all Dylan route, so seems to be written to appeal to purely the Dylan fans. And I get why they would want intimacy between Dylan and Ellie. Having sex with Ellie would be a major score for him.

But there's the Ellie side of the story too, and I'm wondering when some of the requirements for the Ellie route will come into play. For example, does the storyline depend on whether or not Ellie goes to the nightclub, so starts dating Logan, or does she stay with Aaron? And then there's whether or not Ellie kisses Julia, and starts to develop feelings for her.

I think that in the case of Dylan and Ellie we can see it as an intimate story between siblings that for obvious reasons should be kept hidden, so I think that the other stories will not interfere with them since what arises will be something private so it does not matter if Ellie starts a relationship with Julia or Logan since everything will be kept secret

 

[Old Dog]

I think that in the case of Dylan and Ellie we can see it as an intimate story between siblings that for obvious reasons should be kept hidden, so I think that the other stories will not interfere with them since what arises will be something private so it does not matter if Ellie starts a relationship with Julia or Logan since everything will be kept secret

If I remember right the bonus story line Ellie/Dylan is separate from the main story but I would have to check and find the notice from L&P.

 

[shakus-gravus]

1966 post pages later..."Never has so much been said by so many about so little..."

I think some guy named Winston said something like that.

Forty-four pages of posts since I started taking bets for how many more pages of posts we'd have here before L&P actually completed this update. Now we're seeing posts like this - "...if L&P has taught us something, it is to think about the future". L&P is not Yoda waiting to dispense his zen-like wisdom from on high. This is only a porn AVN game. Just take it for what it is.

 

[Mega1it]

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[Alley_Cat]

1966 post pages later..."Never has so much been said by so many about so little..."

I think some guy named Winston said something like that.

Forty-four pages of posts since I started taking bets for how many more pages of posts we'd have here before L&P actually completed this update. Now we're seeing posts like this - "...if L&P has taught us something, it is to think about the future". L&P is not Yoda waiting to dispense his zen-like wisdom from on high. This is only a porn AVN game. Just take it for what it is.

"Never have so many given so much for so few" is I think the quote.

I think that in the case of Dylan and Ellie we can see it as an intimate story between siblings that for obvious reasons should be kept hidden, so I think that the other stories will not interfere with them since what arises will be something private so it does not matter if Ellie starts a relationship with Julia or Logan since everything will be kept secret

My point is that potentially we're about to see Ellie get intimate with Julia. An internationally acclaimed prima donna, who has already performed across Europe. Aaron is the MVP of her school's basketball team, so a real coup in her quest to become head cheerleader. Logan is a college student and underwear model for a huge fashion label. All three are incredibly successful.

Also, many of the choices you can make on the Dylan route are mutually exclusive to the Ellie route. It's possible for Sophia to not continue watching porn, only to be caught by Sophia masturbating in the shower. But Sophia needs to keep watching porn in order to be caught by Ellie. But more relevantly, whether or not Ellie is with Julia is dependant on whether Sophia attends the soccer match or not. Which determines how many goals Dylan scores, hence his successfulness.

And it's entirely possible to complete the major Dylan events while having Ellie kiss Julia, which is what happens in Mamonetti's walkthrough. Which means that not only does Dylan score no goals, but his team loses.

So what would Ellie gain from an intimate relationship with someone who might not even be that successful? And that she's need to keep secret?. She doesn't need dick - not only do we already know she has a vibrator for that, but even then, she's at least dating Aaron, which she doesn't need to keep secret, and also furthers her goals.

 

[Lederzar]

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[phill_leotardo]

So what would Ellie gain from an intimate relationship with someone who might not even be that successful? And that she's need to keep secret?. She doesn't need dick - not only do we already know she has a vibrator for that, but even then, she's at least dating Aaron, which she doesn't need to keep secret, and also furthers her goals.

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You're thinking for the character now, aren't you? Ellie is a slut plain simple. Dylan began to seduce her by fixing her computer, with what intentions i ask you? So they become a happy family in the end i guess? Sarcasm. This doesn't even make sense, she isnt turning into lesbian because she's been kissing girls. She's turning into bissexual, moreover, She likes to admire dick's size, she did it in the sauna, didn't she? Someone who doesn't need a dick would be purely lesbian and wouldnt have ex boyfriends or let alone most recently stare at dicks.


Also, i dont believe Dylan will not get anything from Ellie anyways, probably a threesome at some point if you have like every single filthy point.

 

[Old Dog]

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You're thinking for the character now, aren't you? Ellie is a slut plain simple. Dylan began to seduce her by fixing her computer, with what intentions i ask you? So they become a happy family in the end i guess? Sarcasm. This doesn't even make sense, she isnt turning into lesbian because she's been kissing girls. She's turning into bissexual, moreover, She likes to admire dick's size, she did it in the sauna, didn't she? Someone who doesn't need a dick would be purely lesbian and wouldnt have ex boyfriends or let alone most recently stare at dicks.


Also, i dont believe Dylan will not get anything from Ellie anyways, probably a threesome at some point if you have like every single filthy point.

The bonus story line is mostly independent from the main story.Sophia was there to begin with,the beach scene with the viagra joke on Dylan kicked off the bonus story line, and as far as we know, Sophia will not play a major part in this story.
Ellie made a comment about the size of a guys dick and teased her mother about it,as did Patrica so how does this make Ellie a slut?Sophia also commented about the size as well.

 

[phill_leotardo]

The bonus story line is mostly independent from the main story.Sophia was there to begin with,the beach scene with the viagra joke on Dylan kicked off the bonus story line, and as far as we know, Sophia will not play a major part in this story.
Ellie made a comment about the size of a guys dick and teased her mother about it,as did Patrica so how does this make Ellie a slut?Sophia also commented about the size as well.

So, you're assuming most daughters just go to sauna with their moms near naked dudes and hey thats just sauna and watch their penis, ok. But if you're not satisfied, i will give you another evidence. If Sophia does not intervene in the massage scene, she wont either.

 

[Old Dog]

So, you're assuming most daughters just go to sauna with their moms near naked dudes and hey thats just sauna and watch their penis, ok. But if you're not satisfied, i will give you another evidence. If Sophia does not intervene in the massage scene, she wont either.

Yea I know but just because she looked at the guys dicks and made a comment,just like guys do when they look at the ladies,naked or not,it is a bit strong to call her a slut because of this.
You could of also mentioned the massage parlor event for both Ellie and Sophia.
Yes in Sweden they do.

 

[Old Dog]

Anyway I am more interested in my precious than that young pretender Ellie.My precious will always be number 1 Ellie can be number 4.
This is what happens to little mouse

 

[phill_leotardo]

Anyway I am more interested in my precious than that young pretender Ellie.My precious will always be number 1 Ellie can be number 4.
This is what happens to little mouse
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Well said

 

[shakus-gravus]

"Never have so many given so much for so few" is I think the quote.

My point is that potentially we're about to see Ellie get intimate with Julia. An internationally acclaimed prima donna, who has already performed across Europe. Aaron is the MVP of her school's basketball team, so a real coup in her quest to become head cheerleader. Logan is a college student and underwear model for a huge fashion label. All three are incredibly successful.

Also, many of the choices you can make on the Dylan route are mutually exclusive to the Ellie route. It's possible for Sophia to not continue watching porn, only to be caught by Sophia masturbating in the shower. But Sophia needs to keep watching porn in order to be caught by Ellie. But more relevantly, whether or not Ellie is with Julia is dependant on whether Sophia attends the soccer match or not. Which determines how many goals Dylan scores, hence his successfulness.

And it's entirely possible to complete the major Dylan events while having Ellie kiss Julia, which is what happens in Mamonetti's walkthrough. Which means that not only does Dylan score no goals, but his team loses.

So what would Ellie gain from an intimate relationship with someone who might not even be that successful? And that she's need to keep secret?. She doesn't need dick - not only do we already know she has a vibrator for that, but even then, she's at least dating Aaron, which she doesn't need to keep secret, and also furthers her goals.

It's called a joke. The quote is from me - not Winston Churchill.

I just don't get all the fuss over this or any other AVN on this site.

 

[Deleted member 840101]

Anyway I am more interested in my precious than that young pretender Ellie.My precious will always be number 1 Ellie can be number 4.

By precious you mean Alyssa, right?
So I also tried to make a list of my favorite characters in the game and it ended up like this:
• Ellie
• Alyssa
• Patricia
• Nathalie
• Julia
• Vicky
...

I wonder why there isn't a single male character in the top places and I guess most of us would have female characters occupying the top most places in their list.
Though, I love lesbians I'm more into straight stuffs but I couldn't find a single male character that is more likeable in this game.

• Dylan - Pervert.
• Sam and tyler - They are more likely the same even though Sam is more into Sophia.
• Liam - *sigh* No comments.
• Zac - Seems to be a decent character but we don't know much about him.
Aiden and Bennet - I'm not into blackmail.

I guess there isn't a single male character who has the potential to be a love interest for Sophia.
Hopefully, Morello's character would be nice.

 

[Alley_Cat]

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You're thinking for the character now, aren't you? Ellie is a slut plain simple. Dylan began to seduce her by fixing her computer, with what intentions i ask you? So they become a happy family in the end i guess? Sarcasm. This doesn't even make sense, she isnt turning into lesbian because she's been kissing girls. She's turning into bissexual, moreover, She likes to admire dick's size, she did it in the sauna, didn't she? Someone who doesn't need a dick would be purely lesbian and wouldnt have ex boyfriends or let alone most recently stare at dicks.


Also, i dont believe Dylan will not get anything from Ellie anyways, probably a threesome at some point if you have like every single filthy point.

As I said to someone earlier, I only speak for myself. Most of what I say about characters is actually from L&P himself or directly from the game - I used to provide full links to backup everything I said, but found that no-one was checking them, so I stopped. But since I'm now being accused of speaking for the dev and/or characters (I think twice now recently), it's easy enough to start up again.

For example, L&P has said himself that Ellie is not a slut. The other reason I don't see anything happening with Dylan, is that Ellie has no interest in younger boys. When asked about Sam, Ellie responds:
e "But he's younger than me! And I'd definitely never go out with someone in a lower grade!"

And Dylan was held back a year (from the Introduction): "He'll probably graduate in two years and would like to go to college, if his grades will allow it. Unfortunately he had to repeat a class!"

And in terms of Dylan's looks (from when he first gets a haircut): "e "Wow, you almost look like a human now!"". She's used terms like "toad" and "pygmy" to refer to Dylan when talking to Sophia.

Is there anything else you'd like me to clarify?

 

[farrah]

If I remember right the bonus story line Ellie/Dylan is separate from the main story but I would have to check and find the notice from L&P.

This storyline doesn't affect the main storyline, but it only starts if Sophia doesn't closes the door and then Ellie use viagra on Dylan.

For example, L&P has said himself that Ellie is not a slut. The other reason I don't see anything happening with Dylan, is that Ellie has no interest in younger boys. When asked about Sam, Ellie responds:
e "But he's younger than me! And I'd definitely never go out with someone in a lower grade!"

Ellie's character does not change without Sophia's influence in the main story. But if I remember correctly, the bonus story ends on day 23 (Ellie's day).
How Ellie should change to have sex with Dylan, all things considered. This worries and scary me.

 

[Alley_Cat]

This storyline doesn't affect the main storyline, but it only starts if Sophia doesn't closes the door and then Ellie use viagra on Dylan.

Ellie's character does not change without Sophia's influence in the main story. But if I remember correctly, the bonus story ends on day 23 (Ellie's day).
How Ellie should change to have sex with Dylan, all things considered. This worries and scary me.

Which is why I like her possible intimate relationship with little precious Jules. Both possible relationships with Aaron and Logan are based on superficial reasons, mainly on her image as a cheerleader. But she considers Aaron to be a "moron".

With Jules she has the opportunity to not only improve her image, but also develop feelings for. Plus we already know Jules is an awesome kisser, and has the drive to take things further (since Jules has already attempted the boob grope). It was Ellie that put the brakes on, until she sorted out her feelings towards intimacy with other women. I'm hoping the nightclub and shower scenes have clarified that enough, but we'll see in the upcoming update.

 

[Gunslinger66]

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[ancienregimele]

I can't envisage a relaunch happening, unless the game is abandoned & a different dev takes the helm. What I think could be a reasonable, achievable compromise would be the modification of certain patches of dialogue & particular scenes. Other devs have done this successfully. An example of entirely unrealistic dialogue/monologue is, IMO, Sophia's lack of knowledge of the meaning of the acronym MILF. As an example of a completely unbelievable scene, we need go no further than when Sophia has a conversation about showing her panties to Aiden & Andre & then shows them. No-one else notices, or hears anything!?!? Personally, I would also favour the removal of some almost forgotten &/or minor characters, or perhaps their official relegation to the sidelines. It won't happen but I can still hope.

I'm interested to find out why this post merits a facepalm. I used to ignore them but have found that on this thread they're taken seriously by some, so I thought I would do that for a change.

 

[afterlights]

I wouldn't worry about the facepalm.