ancienregimele

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True, those are the age of nearness exemptions, though some states do not use them and technically can arrest two minors for underage sex as it is a crime to do such below what the states laws say is a minor.

Like I said, it gets murky quick.

Most outside of the States would be lost as to who, what, when, and how of the laws governing the states can be differing. Hell its hard to figure out if one is native born.

But as I said earlier, California is one of those stricter states and is usually the bases for outsiders ideas of American life. Well there and New York. The rest of the country is usually overlooked artistically as we are not in the news enough unless there is a riot or natural disaster.
I've always thought of San Alejo as a Californian city, right from when I started playing, over 2 years ago. I don't know too much about The States but I'm not unaware of the different approaches to such fundamental things as sex & I do have American relatives, [in Texas]. Now I'm thinking that it might be better if it was in some kind of off-shore US controlled tax haven with its' own set of laws but it's a stretch & could complicate things further. I'm not often in two minds in relation to AWAM but on this....
 

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I think the purpose of the law is to suggest a 40 year old should not be in a sexual relationship with a 16 year old, regardless of consent. There is no distinct difference between a 21 and 22 year old, but surely a 40 or 50 year old is drastically different from a 16 year old. Presumably there is a predatory behavior and intent in those cases (and possibly grooming)
Should not? Distinct difference? Drastically? Surely?

Why? Give me one solid good reason why there is a difference between a 22yo or a 40yo? Still think the same if the girl was let's say ohhh I dunno 20 and make the guys 26 and 50? Suppose you think there's a difference between a 18yo guy and a 40yo woman compared to the other way around too?

I'll tell you the difference, too many people are uneducated enough to know the difference between a pedophile and an Ephibophile. Again, why the States is in the biblical dark ages. I've asked lots of people lots of times in different places..no one seem to be able to tell me. If I have a 16yo gf in Oaklahoma...and move to Cali. Will I be arrested? Can anyone tell me what would happen in a country that lets individual parts do wtf they like and make up whatever laws they want? I really am curious when a lot of the rest of the world are looking into lowering their AoC.

Peoples morals are the issues (and religious backgrounds)....at the end of the day...who cares if (let's make it legal) an 18yo dates and fucks a 50yo? No one elses godamn business (and are we really stating there's that much developmental process and maturity in 2 years) and as for underage teenagers...sorry...but there is ZERO difference between a 20yo and a 40yo dating a 16yo (in the States). Both know the law. Funny though how the law tries to say different? Maybe we need to move the legal adult status up to 25 then if they are defending the 20yo with...I don't know...not knowing any better (which in itself makes a complete mockery of the law it's defending really doesn't it)?

But you didn't actually really respond to my main point. Arbitary ages slapped onto laws are ridiculous, whetever it is for. But I got way off-topic..veered into political land and this will probably be deleted. bottom line...in most countruies, their ages are totally irelevent and as for the trouble Sophie would be in, I think we're really discussing family noticing...not 'outsiders' that would screw her life up completely.


There are no real translations into English since meaning is lost, but Bleistiftgeraderücker would be "pencil straight mover", someone who is totally overcorrect to the point even the tax or statistical offices get annoyed from this type of person. Kirschkernpolierer is "cherry stone polisher", which is a person who is fixated on unimportant details and has lost sight of the big picture.
Thanks for the silmilar English words! But pencil pusher does not really fit the "Bleistiftgeraderücker". That is more a combination of "pencil pusher" combined with a "neat freak", a first grade "Nervensäge"(nerve saw), which would translate as a professional nag.
Jeesh...you learn something new every day. Thanks.
 
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Should not? Distinct difference? Drastically? Surely?

Why? Give me one solid good reason why there is a difference between a 22yo or a 40yo? Still think the same if the girl was let's say ohhh I dunno 20 and make the guys 26 and 50? Suppose you think there's a difference between a 18yo guy and a 40yo woman compared to the other way around too?
A 22 year old may be a "late bloomer" and a non-traditional student and, while rare, some 16 year olds take courses at community college and graduate high school at 17 years. In those cases there could be natural interaction that facilitate relationship.

An older person, 30+ years old, that engages in a relationship with a 16 year old (or younger) has significant maturational and developmental advantage and can very easily "groom" the teen. That is why these relationships are frowned upon and that is why these relationships almost never work. They are unhealthy for the teen and, frankly, the adult.

The rules/laws go both ways, it's just more common for men to go after women (young and old) and society has fostered a culture where men as predators and women, even when they're the actual predators, have mental health issues or going through a divorce, etc. Women get a pass and it's not okay, but that doesn't make it okay for men either.

Children should learn with/from other children. There will be occasions when adults help those education, but that should be as limited as possible. That's also why there is an entire legal industry of "sugar babies". Young, 18 year old women find rich older men to finance their bills, schooling, housing, etc., and provide sexual exchanges...it almost doesn't happen - at all - the other way around.

And if you personally are into teenagers that's fine. There are more than enough underdeveloped 18 year olds to satisfy that niche

As for Sophie's troubles...its incest. Am unaware of laws surrounding it. She likely wouldn't get in much trouble as her children are near adulthood, 16 or 17 if not already 18, and they would very clearly deny grooming practices, etc., as in this AVN the teens are the ones pushing the boundaries
 

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Which is why laws based on an arbitary number are utterly and pointlessly useless. So a 22yo knows better than a 21yo? Driving at 57mph is inherantly more dangerous than at 55mph? A 17yo is so much more sexually naive and innocent than an 18yo? You can get married at 17 but can't drink or watch porn? Etc etc etc....
Driving at 57mph is basically the same as driving at 55mph, but driving at 85mph is not similar to driving at 55mph. The laws have to draw the line somewhere and, in an ideal world, only penalize people who significantly break the law to the point of endangerment
 

Pavlovitch

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Guys, some help here, please?
It was just after Dylan fixed the ransomware from Ellie's computer, in the scene that Sophia are in the market.
 
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If I have a 16yo gf in Oaklahoma...and move to Cali. Will I be arrested? Can anyone tell me what would happen in a country that lets individual parts do wtf they like and make up whatever laws they want?
That is why there is a Supreme Court and Constitution in the States, even if some would like it otherwise. But it is as it is.

Now as to getting arrested, yes a fellow could get busted. There was a case 20(+/-) years ago where a teen from I think OK in fact running off to Kansas with his gf to get an elopement as OK has laws against marrying that young. He was 18 and she was 15 with a signed consent from her mother not her father. They got married but he was arrested for having sex with a minor. :oops: :eek:

Like I said earlier the US is a long term alliance of separate nations.

As this pertains to the game, Sophia would be in trouble for incest with Ellie and both with Dylan. Ironically as long as she only let Julia touch her by the pool, she is in clover for now.
 

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As this pertains to the game, Sophia would be in trouble for incest with Ellie and both with Dylan. Ironically as long as she only let Julia touch her by the pool, she is in clover for now.
Assuming Sophia gets caught. The entire reason for getting the bathroom lock fixed is so that they can get up to shenanigans and pretend they're only having a shower together, to which, as I've said, Liam is completely okay with.
 
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Well, I'm honestly not sure the order of occurrence, so it's actually unlikely the two tasting events would happen in the same update. (But would be incredible, if so!)
 
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I would say that November could be a good bet since Ellie/Sophia is the biggest event.
Still it's not bigger than all other events together.And don't forget that he will need at least 1-2 more weeks after scenes and renders are done.Not to mention the dev said two monts at least.Meaning at best early December.
 

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Still it's not bigger than all other events together.And don't forget that he will need at least 1-2 more weeks after scenes and renders are done.Not to mention the dev said two monts at least.Meaning at best early December.
Yes I agree that is why I said November,give me some wiggle room.
8-10 weeks for updates I can live with
 
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