VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[bayerischman]

Don't expect second and third part to go faster.They are much bigger and probably more complex(after all we are talking for scenes with much more characters-school,second side job,especially Sam's concert).Not to mention we can expect some events to be even bigger than the ones we have so far.

 

[bayerischman]

laut awam sind die beiden anderen apdates nicht grösser

 

[Old Dog]

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Don't worry. Sophia will speak alone with him.
It's on her how "happy" she will leave Don Morello's brother behind which will also have bearing on Don Morello's mood.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

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Don't worry. Sophia will speak alone with him.
It's on her how "happy" she will leave Don Morello's brother behind which will also have bearing on Don Morello's mood.

That looks great as always. The other women visiting looks awfully dressed up, but whatever- it's great. The only thing that stands out to me is that Liam's collar looks weird.

 

[Creeping Death]

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Don't worry. Sophia will speak alone with him.
It's on her how "happy" she will leave Don Morello's brother behind which will also have bearing on Don Morello's mood.

Perfect example that a Little Black Dress is perfect in every situation Let's all thank Coco Chanel!

 

[Alley_Cat]

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Don't worry. Sophia will speak alone with him.
It's on her how "happy" she will leave Don Morello's brother behind which will also have bearing on Don Morello's mood.

Awesome, I was right! There's little chance of strip searches or whatever, since the conversation is behind plate glass.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

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Don't worry. Sophia will speak alone with him.
It's on her how "happy" she will leave Don Morello's brother behind which will also have bearing on Don Morello's mood.

I must say that sophia's dress is obviously very suitable for visiting a prison; but if sophia talks behind the glass on the phone in that room with other people, i doubt we will see anything hot

 

[Notretsam]

I don't think there's anything hinting at this, but who knows. Patricia definitely seems like the sort of character that would be calculating enough to see/plan for something and slow play it for her advantage. I don't know why, but I was actually surprised with her behavior towards Dylan, I didn't expect that and it makes me wonder if she'll do something similar with Ellie.

Technically the part where Patricia points out the "shower gel" on the floor could be a clue and the fact, she did catch Dylan looking during Yoga. Both could be a clue to she noticed Dylan peeking and more during the shower, in fact, Patricia did strike up a conversation with Sophia during the shower, maybe Patricia noticing Dylan is part of why but it also could be because she likes to tease Sophia.

There is nothing directly stating she did catch Dylan and means I could be wrong, but you just never know for sure.

This got me thinking. Corruption stories are hot, but I think there is a conflict in their implementation. By definition, for a character to be corrupted they need to be innocent at the beginning. But, in order for the corruption to be believable (because that's what makes it erotic) it needs to be slow. This creates a conflict because the character needs extensive time to become corrupted enough to allow for lewd scenes. Move too quickly and you lose the sense of corruption that comes from the build-up of tension, but move too slow and the game feels stalled. Sophia begins AWAM very innocent for someone her age and experience, so it has taken relentless corruption to get her to where she is today. That's taken years of development. But at the same time it's only been like two and a half weeks since the game began. In less than a month, Sophia has gone from an innocent loving wife, to a conflicted and adventurous woman. When you play the game from start to finish, it's an almost relentless stream of pressure on her since day 1. I think that actually hurts the game because in fewer than 20 days she has gone from purely innocent to going to second base with her daughter in the shower- that's crazy to think about. But would it be better if it was slower? Absolutely not, we're not getting any younger.

I think future corruption games would be better off starting with a character that isn't so innocent. If the idea is to corrupt a woman into a sex fiend, it would be an easier sell if the woman starts with significant sexual experience. This would reduce the amount of corruption, so that's unfortunate, but you can still corrupt someone further even if they're already corrupt. You could start the game with the woman admitting that she has cheated in previous relationships (but not her current one) so that the door is open because it is in her character to cheat. If incest is your thing, then you could open the game with acknowledging that the MC and her children have a "very close" relationship that she admits is a bit inappropriate at times. Starting the MC from this position would jump start the game by creating a character with cracks in the armor. These cracks are easier to exploit and can lead to earlier payoff as opposed to an innocent MC who needs to be convinced just to wear a bikini.

Yeah, there needs to be a balance and it always going to be to slow for some or to fast for others.

I think L&P should have focused on 2 paths only "Filthy" and "Lesbian", then rotate updates between them, 1 update is filthy, 1 update is lesbian.

However, with the good wife route as well, he needs to add content in for that, so there essentially 3 routes with each route having there own sub-routes.

A less is more approach maybe is the best idea with corruption VN's/games but you also want a lot of content to provide longevity to the VN/game as well, there is no doubt L&P has years of sub-routes and routes to explore.

 

[lockerxx]

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Don't worry. Sophia will speak alone with him.
It's on her how "happy" she will leave Don Morello's brother behind which will also have bearing on Don Morello's mood.

nice a preview!!!

 

[sept0342]

I thought they were going to talk alone, in a room or something... not in front of everyone

 

[Alley_Cat]

I must say that sophia's dress is obviously very suitable for visiting a prison; but if sophia talks behind the glass on the phone in that room with other people, i doubt we will see anything hot

Which was kinda my point - that this isn't necessarily a Filthy route event, where someone we don't even know the name of, gets to lay a hand on Sophia. It'll just be a conversation, like Morello said at the casino. I might need to test it, but I highly doubt Morello's brother will be able to even see under Sophia's dress.

 

[lockerxx]

but is the Mafia they could get some time alone for sophie

 

[sept0342]

Which was kinda my point - that this isn't necessarily a Filthy route event, where someone we don't even know the name of, gets to lay a hand on Sophia. It'll just be a conversation, like Morello said at the casino. I might need to test it, but I highly doubt Morello's brother will be able to even see under Sophia's dress.

But there must be a point for all of it, that is, the corruption of Sophia. It's not just some conversation for the sake of it I guess.

Maybe not something physical as such but showering her with compliments and make her feel somewhat desirable and then horny, I don't know.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

But there must be a point for all of it, that is, the corruption of Sophia. It's not just some conversation for the sake of it I guess.

Maybe not something physical as such but showering her with compliments and make her feel somewhat desirable and then horny, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know about the whole Morello storyline. I agree that this scene must serve a purpose for the corruption of Sophia, and that it seems unlikely that Morello's brother will be able to do much other than talk dirty to her. I just have a lot of questions about the pacing of this storyline because every minute we spend on this storyline is a minute we can't dedicate to storylines that have already been established.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Agree on that one is way too much "public" for anything to happen so this scene will be another "waste" of rendering time imo...

I don't know that I want to call it a waste since it could be important setup for future scenes. But with updates taking so long, with storylines already fizzling out, and approaching halfway through the month, it does seem like a strange decision to start a new storyline at this point. Someone posted it earlier, but do we know when the next event with Morello is scheduled for?

 

[Alley_Cat]

But there must be a point for all of it, that is, the corruption of Sophia. It's not just some conversation for the sake of it I guess.

But as I've said previously it's possible to be doing this event on the GW route. So the "point of all of it", may have more to do with the GW route than Filthy. More to do with redemption than corruption.

The only route that requires this event is Ellie's. And it doesn't serve her purposes at all for Sophia to go down the Filthy route too far - she doesn't need to compete with Liam as Sophia's source of dick. If Sophia and Liam were to break up, then Ellie may have to move again, and she's already made a bunch of friends here in San Alejo.

If it was possible to not have to do this event on Ellie's route, but required for the Dylan and Sam routes, I would agree the point would be about further corrupting Sophia - they still need it. But it's not.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

But as I've said previously it's possible to be doing this event on the GW route. So the "point of all of it", may have more to do with the GW route than Filthy. More to do with redemption than corruption.

The only route that requires this event is Ellie's. And it doesn't serve her purposes at all for Sophia to go down the Filthy route too far - she doesn't need to compete with Liam as Sophia's source of dick. If Sophia and Liam were to break up, then Ellie may have to move again, and she's already made a bunch of friends here in San Alejo.

If it was possible to not have to do this event on Ellie's route, but required for the Dylan and Sam routes, I would agree the point would be about further corrupting Sophia - they still need it. But it's not.

How is this event accessible on the GW path? If you follow that path doesn't Sophia stop Liam from gambling? Why would they end up meeting Morello if Liam never gets in trouble at the casino?

 

[Alley_Cat]

How is this event accessible on the GW path? If you follow that path doesn't Sophia stop Liam from gambling? Why would they end up meeting Morello if Liam never gets in trouble at the casino?

Because whether or not Sophia leaves Liam at the casino isn't a GW or Filthy decision. No points are lost or gained in it. So far this path is completely neutral on the matter

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Because whether or not Sophia leaves Liam at the casino isn't a GW or Filthy decision. No points are lost or gained in it. So far this path is completely neutral on the matter

Oh so those on the GW path can still leave him at the casino? I thought you had to have more filthy points to leave him at the casino, otherwise you stayed with him automatically.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

But there must be a point for all of it, that is, the corruption of Sophia. It's not just some conversation for the sake of it I guess.

Maybe not something physical as such but showering her with compliments and make her feel somewhat desirable and then horny, I don't know.

It's not shown in the preview pic but the prisoners are allowed to come out naked and play with themselves. Sophia will see this, get really wet and say, "Why can't I have a man like that?"